Chick Fil A was packed this morning

Wrong again.

It was headline news before, and it would have been headline news now even lacking the 3 mayors. That you weren't aware of the past history is literally ignorance: it is an observation, not name-calling.

The mayors are wrong, but then let me ask again: what is it about politics that you don't understand? That the mayors are wrong doesn't mean that CFA and its patrons aren't wrong in some way as well.
 
What do you think it means?

Now is as good as time as any for you to do your first thinking of the day.

Try thinking on your own. Stop asking to be told what things mean.
 
There is no value in tradition, history, or anything sacred by the left. You must blindly embrace the "anything goes" mentality in order to avoid being viciously attacked verbally and otherwise.

If they want civil unions so they can designate another individual to cover with insurance, etc. that's fine. Come up with a name for it. The institution of marriage, defined as one man and one woman, has been around over 4 thousand years. Can we not value that and keep it sacred?

If we keep playing out this "progressive" and "anything goes" society then why shouldn't I be able to marry my sister if we're both consenting adults? What about marrying my mother? Are you so disgusted by that? No more so than society would have been about two men or two women 50 years ago.
 
Interracial marriage was illegal through most of the South until 1967. If you would have asked many around that time and a little early for the justification, they would have given many of the same responses given here in regards to gay marriage. Those laws were wrong, and I and many others believe that the prohibitions against same-sex marriage are also wrong.

I have to run so I'll keep it short, but to make one more point, I disagree that "liberals" or same-sex marriage supporters have an anything goes philosophy. For me personally and friends who also support expanded marriage rights, it is much more thought out than that. I still hold that marriage is a sacred commitment between two people that should be honored. I think adultery is wrong, and marriage should be for life. I'm disappointed when friends just carry on relationships without commitment. I find the divorce rate and the ridiculous wedding industry troubling. A lot of those views are traditional. However, along with those views, I also believe that if two consenting adults want to engage in a union of commitment, that will inflict no ill on society or others but rather strengthen society, which has been a part of humanity since the beginning of recording history, then we have no basis to discriminate because of sexual orientation which they were born with.

Also, I like Chik-Fil-A and will keep eating their when the opportunity presents itself.
 
God Bless the stunning tolerance of the American Liberal.
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And God bless the stunning intolerance of the American narrow minded redneck.
 
You either accept the leftist agenda or you are a redneck.

Outstanding.

I think 1984 has arrived, about 28 years late, but it has arrived.
 
I keep asking you to explain **** that makes no sense. At least to me it makes no sense, you are so much more superior then me and I guess everyone else in your mind.

It is sad to watch you on this post, sometimes you actually do make good points, mostly false as you think MSNBC is gospel but hey......when you buy a steak do you put your head up the butchers *** err....
 
NEWDOC is spot on. If ChikFilA is refusing service to gay people then this is an entirely different matter. I have not heard of one example of anything remotely close to that.
 
Speaking of intolerance, what would be said if a person you call redneck said "And God bless the stunning intolerance of the American narrow minded ghetto people." Is that acceptable language or is it just okay for the left? Also you speaking of intolerance which describes exactly what the left is trying to do to Mr Cathy.
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I hate to break this to you, but I agree that Mr. Cathy can do whatever he wants with his business. He is also free to say what he believes. I would not picket Chik-Fil-A for what the guy believes. If it offends you, don't eat there. I don't care if people who agree with him want to show their support by eating there. It is a free country. Like in all of life, you are responsible for what you do and say.

In response to your objection to the work "redneck", I take out the word "redneck" and state "God bless the intolerance of all narrow minded people"
 
It's interesting how people rationalize away those similarities
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And I am sure someone will come on here to rationalize this way of thinking any minute now. Just wait for it
 
new doc, I think my comparison was fair. The struggles were different but bigotry and intolerance were shared. Open up any book on civil rights or racism in the south to find verification of my claim. Blacks were viewed as inferior interracial marriage wrong and a sin. I firmly believe that in 40 years our views on gay marriage will have changed in a similar way to views on interacial marriage.



Shiner, at some point this debate became about how gay marriage and homosexuality is wrong. My comments were responding to that. I honestly still like Chick-fl-a and while I disagree with Mr Cathy, I support his right to say it. The threats from these mayors are going way too far. A lot of the reaction from the gay community and liberals, the whole stir is probably too much and might prove counterproductive to their goals. I read.some blog or article listing the anti-gay marriage organizations CAL supports and FCA wad on there. Having grown up in a conservative part of Texas I know how faith based organizations can strengthen communities. Chick Fil A's values also benefit communities and are refreshing in the fast food industry.

However, regardless of the wisdom of the reactions and counter-reactions, it gas stimulated the discussion of gay marriage and that's what I joined the thread to comment on.

As for the "anything goes'/slippery slope' arguments, no one is saying no lines should be drawn with the definition of marriage. We are just saying the line should be drawn differently and include deserving same-sex couples. Incest results in children born with birth defects and coincides often with sexual abuse. Allowing incestuous relationships would cause harm to individuals and society. What harm do consensual same sex couples who want the same rights as everyone else cause?
 
Perham is taking Sooner hate to a new level. Why can't a brother and sister that love each other get married? Texas has had laws against cousins marrying for some time. Why discriminate?
 
The Sooners need to work on their position on the persecution scale. Clearly the lefties are not feeling their pain.
 
If you support gay marriage shouldn't you then support polygamy? Polygamy was outlawed because the supreme court said that congress could limit actions that violated community social norms or subverted social order.

If Adam can marry steve, then adam should be able to marry steve, eve, veronica, and jughead. If we rewrite the definition of marriage you would also have to allow polyandry, group marriage and probably bigamy.
 
HornCyclist,

I'm in a hurry and read through it quickly. So if I read your link right that incest is okay as long as it's not with minors and they don't have children due to birth defects? That's the same as homosexuals as they can't have children and it's a no no with minors.
 
Wow, Prodigal, I'm happy to serve as the movie screen for a tired re-run of unfounded assumptions about me.

I stated every action - reaction, not just one side. I agree about the political grandstanders.

That issues play out on this battlefield (did you notice the clever mention of Bunker Hill or were you already racing to to accuse me of being against Free Speech? Hard to tell from your post.) and the idiotic actions of mayors, activists, anti-activists.... make this theater of the absurd.

To claim this is really only about free speech is also absurd, but enjoy the chicken with a smug smile and pat yourself on the back for being above it all yourself. You see that there really is only one good side. Well done!

There's plenty of room in the back here with the other cool kids, Daddio.
 
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