Benson was waived by the Bears

If the NFL guys like him that much, they should be tripping over themselves right now trying to claim him off waivers.

Don't knock Kevin Smith. He ran for something like 2,500 yards in a season full of 9 man fronts.

Is Ron Dayne better than Ricky Williams? I'd say no but a lot of people on here are pumping the all time rushing mark so I'm assuming you think Dayne is better?

Felix Jones ran for almost 9 yards per carry or somesuch.

Someone mentioned him being in the top 20 of all time which is about the most obsurd thing ever. If we're talking all time, he'd be hard pressed to break the Top 50.
 
Dead horse, Either you don't know a damn thing about football or you really do have an axe to grind with Cedric. Seriously, You don't get to be #6 all-time in college rushing history if you are just mediocre. The guy was a hoss and had a horrible soph year due to both legs having shinsplints and he still was number 6 all-time. Do you not realize how many RB in history that has passed through college? 120 x 4 per team. That's 400 RB's per year. Not sure when they started the stats for rushing yards but even 100 years would be 48,000 RB's and Cedric is #6. Not just any college RB can make the top 100. Your a sad case.
 
Ced had no big games in big time games. Not in the OU games, NU games, Big 12 title games, bowl games, Rose Bowl, you name it. He destroyed the Rices of the world, but he didn't have a signature game when it actually meant something. He never carried the team on his back. The closest I can remember would have been the Arkansas game at Fayetteville, where both he and VY led the team to victory.

For all of his all-time stats, nobody outside of Travis County considers Cedric a "great" college running back. He's a poor man's Ron Dayne who will probably have the same type of pro career as Dayne - pedestrian. He is high on the all-time college rushing list because he played/started 4 years and played more games per season than older backs. Just because Ced has more career yards than guys like Earl or OJ or Marcus Allen or Herschel Walker or Jim Brown or any other legend doesn't mean Ced should even be mentioned in the same breath as those guys.
 
Jive Turkey, no one here is arguing that Cedric is a H Walker, Bo Jackson, or Earl Campbell. We have a guy here that thinks Cedric has no athletic ability and because of that does not belong in the NFL. I don't give a damn if he doesn't have a signature game or not, he was a hoss. You can downplay his 6th all-time rusher rank all you want but not just anybody can do that. He must have been impressive enough in college to go in the 1st round of the NFL draft. It's not his athletic ability is what is keeping him from making it as a starter in the NFL. It's his attitude. He is too busy playing around and partying when he should be getting ready for the season. That is what the top players in the league do if they wants to be a starting RB in the league.
 
i think it's comical that anyone who has wathced the last 10 ou games could deduce that cedric benson didn't show up against them when he played. you know nothing about football. and if you want to use that, then why not talk about ricky's wonderful numbers against the conference power of his day, k-state? i guess ricky sucks too.
then there are a few of you who just dismiss being #6 all time and show your *** by saying he was a 4 year starter.
the list deadhorse posted is so stupid that he's at this point doing his best to deflect attention away from it.
there is absolutely no question that cedric benson was a great college runing back. 6th all time? 404 pts?
either i'm on candid camera or those of you arguing that ced was somehow pedestrian in college have the football iq of jessica simpson. either way, this thread should go to classics.
 
Deadhorse, because we happen to think similar to you (Benson a good RB, aided by a great line, good team and staying all 4 years), my roommate and I are just throwing names to add to your list:
Steve Slaton
LenDale White
Cadillac Williams
Jamal Charles
Ray Rice
Clinton Portis
Maurice Clarett

This isn't to say that Benson sucked, just that his stats were not all his doing.

As far as his status w/ the Bears - sucks for him, but he seems to have made bad choices from day 1 in the NFL. Forget the Bears being a bad fit for Benson, he was a bad fit for the Bears.
 
his stats weren't all his doing?
what the hell are some of y'all talking about?
i guess emmitt smith was only decent, because he didn't have breakaway speed, couldn't break tackles like christian okoye and played on some of the best teams of all time?
nice work, fellas.
 
oh, and by the way, clinton portis? un-*******-believable.

Year Car Yds Avg TD Lg Rec Yds Avg TD Lg
2001 220 1,254 5.7 10 45 12 125 10.4 1 21
2000 77 485 6.3 2 82 5 103 20.6 0 59
1999 143 838 5.9 8 41 4 44 11.0 2 22
 
Here's an interesting factoid: Benson won the Doak Walker over 2 other finalists, those being Cal's J.J. Arrington and OU's Adrian Peterson. Obviously, Benson was a senior and Peterson was "merely" a freshman, but he did enough that year to be named a finalist as well as 1st team AP All-American (with Benson).
 
I've never said he sucked. I just said he was ordinary and a little better than average instead of the "great" status he gets from a lot of UT fans and this board.

For those who think he's one of the all time greats, consider that he never beat OU, never ran for 100 yards against OU or in a bowl game and all this was despite playing with TWO different QB's who would go on to start in the NFL.

Only in Arkansas is Matt Jones considered a big time QB and only in Travis County is Cedric Benson considered an all time great RB.

Like I said, I never said he sucked. I just said he was average.
 
Cedric was not an all-time great but he was definitely NOT average. He was a VERY good college back. There is no argument otherwise.
 
i have to say, this is the first time i've seen someone use "he never beat [insert team]" for a player that was not a quarterback. he (cedric) never beat ou?
roy wiliams was average too, i guess.
 
Ced apparently suffers from a common sickness, especially among the pampered, that disease being a severe case of Dumbass.

For certain, he has not one lick of common sense as he should not have possibly gotten behind the wheel if he even had a sip of booze, given his record and position with the Bears management. Given his track record, beginning at UT, Benson is either the most unlucky human on earth or he is like the dog that continually chases parked cars. Unfortunately, the evidence strongly points to the latter. With each excuse after excuse, his credibilty diminishes in my and most other's eyes. What a monumental waste of talent.
 
I have nothing to say, really. I just wanted an excuse to show y'all a cool picture of Cat from the Bound for Beijing tour website

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Deadhorse, Please show a link to where someone here is arguing that Cedric belongs with Earl, OJ, Bo Jackson, or H Walker. You post that he is average and if someone disputes that you claim they are arguing he is the greatest. You are spinning like a liberal demcrat in congress.

Cedric was not average or even just a notch about average. Let me repeat this so you won't spin my words. HE IS NOT A BO JACKSON, H WALKER, EARL CAMPBELL. Getting the Doak Walker award says he is much more than just average.

What is it with you and your hate for Cedric? Try not to spin it by saying everyone is saying he's the greatest because your argument is he is just average.

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Deahorse you are a so funny.

If Cedric wasn't better than Dayne he was average?
If he isn't Bo or EArl he is average?

You are a light switch, on or off. There is not in between with you.
 
It always appeared to me that Texas fans overhyped and overrated Benson who, until his Senior season, didn't really live up to his billing by Texas fans, IMO.

Clearly Benson was better than the average college running back. But a truly "average" college running back would never be starting somewhere like Texas. It is silly to say Benson was an average back by the standards of college football...But it could be argued that for a top program like Texas, he was pretty average as far as Texas starting running backs go.

IMO, Benson was a stud by his senior year, some of that aided by Vince. But in his freshman through junior seasons he was an "average back" in terms of what I'd expect Texas to line up with as a starter in the Cotton Bowl. Not a slouch by any means, but not an "Oh crap, look at this stud they've got" type of player either.

I vividly remember Texas fans being upset that Mack didn't play Benson in the '01 game. I also remember at the time that Ivan Williams looked a lot scarier to me, as he was a more powerful runner (the kind that had given OU defenses more trouble at the time) and he was gaining more ypc than Benson. It always seemed to me like Ivan Williams got kind of a bum rap there, as everyone was so eager to coronate Benson that he started getting the carries against the soft defenses that Williams would have also shredded. Mack made the right decision that day, and those who imagine that true freshman Benson would have made the difference against the best defense Bob Stoops has ever brought to the Cotton Bowl are living in a fantasy world.

The one great quality Benson had was excellent durability, and this combined with 4 years of starting is the main reason he is #6 in all time stats.

But Benson never stuck me as clearly superior to Selvin Young or Ramonce Taylor or Jammal Charles. He was a better all purpose every down back, but less dangerous.

Benson wasn't overhyped by the recruiting services. He was hyped by Texas fans who were in awe of his state records as a high school player. The recruiting services weren't as impressed, and Rivals had him the 6th best back in that class, as I recall. I don't remember for sure, but I'd bet that Selvin Young, Jammal Charles and Vondrel McGee were all in the top-10 also, and were just as respected for their talents coming out of high school as Benson.

So it isn't like Benson didn't live up to his recruit rankings - he clearly did. It is just that Texas continuously recruits backs just as highly ranked by recruiting services, and those backs do just as well or better in ypc than Benson.

Benson was a durable workhorse in high school and college who had a great Senior season.

But he was never an awe inspiring talent that burned himself into the national psyche via astonishing highlights on Sportscenter.

He is probably closer in talent to other Big12 backs like Quentin Griffin, Tatum Bell, Selvin Young, Darren Sproles, Correll Buckhalter, Chris Brown, etc. than to the superstars like Ricky Williams and Adrian Peterson.

Here is a list of backs that have come out in the past 10 years who I think are all just as talented as Benson, some far more talented:

Ricky Williams
Edgerrin James
Jamal Lewis
Ron Dayne
Shaun Alexander
Ladanian Tomilson
Deuce McAllister
Deshuan Foster
Clinton Portis
Brian Westbrook
Willis McGahee
Larry Johnson
Kevin Jones
Ronnie Brown
Cadillac Williams
Frank Gore
Marion Barber
Laurence Maroney
DeAngelo williams
Lendale White
Maurice Jones-Drew
Adrian Peterson
Marshawn Lynch
Darren Mcfadden
 
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