2023 Recruiting - Football

[cnb]

Really wonder if there is hurt feelings from binder boy and the Brockermeyers or if the OL is just filled at Texas. Hate to see a legacy and what was originally a top 10 national recruit not be here. Wish him the best and hope we are headed in the right direction. If QE can work on reading the defense and accuracy then this offense could be world class.

As been noted several times on other threads. Hand and Herman's alienation of OL recruits set us back a couple of years. Brockermeyer was a casualty.
And Flood likes what we have in house currently.

 

[Crockett]

I think that evaluation of OL is an area where coaches' choices may often be at variance with the scouting gurus. Seem like low 3 star guys flipped from Houston or Kansas State have started more years for us than some 4 and 5 star guys.

 

[mchammer]

I think that evaluation of OL is an area where coaches' choices may often be at variance with the scouting gurus. Seem like low 3 star guys flipped from Houston or Kansas State have started more years for us than some 4 and 5 star guys.

A lot of our 4* OL never saw the field!

 

[old65horn]

As been noted several times on other threads. Hand and Herman's alienation of OL recruits set us back a couple of years. Brockermeyer was a casualty.
And Flood likes what we have in house currently.

Our OL woes were not OT, we have Banks at LT
and our best OL and Christian Jones at RT who is an excellent run blocker as well as vastly improved pass blacker. Brockermeyer was not going to start for us. IOL was our issue, not OT.

 

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[longhornlegend]

Its a solid message and also much easier to take that stand if you have money. I dont begrudge any of them the money thats being offered. Its a cesspool for the ncaa because its not regulated and anyone with an iq higher than their shoe size know that its just buying players. They already get a education with room and board and a stipend as well. Its just a crazy amount of money that should be a team thing and not individual. Yes the players can be stars but they cant do it alone. Just my 2 cents.

 

[rick mueller]

Gonna really miss him but we seem as deep as ever going forward in most positions!!

It would be nice to be able to reload vs. rebuild.

 

[erbutch]

Makes one wonder how much nil money was used on our group of recruits. We make fun of ags last year on the amount of money spent. I hope the same thing doesnt happen to us that is happening to aggies this year,and we end up with a large amount in the portal.

 

[ViperHorn]

Shades of Bru McCoy!

or Jake Smith

 

[moondog_LFZ]

Makes one wonder how much nil money was used on our group of recruits. We make fun of ags last year on the amount of money spent. I hope the same thing doesnt happen to us that is happening to aggies this year,and we end up with a large amount in the portal.

Sark has said that he wants players that want to play at Texas and if it's only about NIL then he doesn't want them.

 

[Pomspoms]

Same guy said he worried about Bijan because he didn't hustle enough in his HS highlight reels, so take it for what it is worth.

yeah that was me. I thought Bijan was overrated coming out of HS. I think i was also influenced by the lack of competition that is in Arizona compared to that of Texas. But during the course of his college career it turned out I was wrong. His lack of front end speed is still unsettling to me but he is very very good at cutting and making people miss. So I am happy that he turned out better than expected.
He is no Adrian Peterson or Jamaal Charles but he is good. I also love the character of the young man.

 

[Pomspoms]

Its a solid message and also much easier to take that stand if you have money. I dont begrudge any of them the money thats being offered. Its a cesspool for the ncaa because its not regulated and anyone with an iq higher than their shoe size know that its just buying players. They already get a education with room and board and a stipend as well. Its just a crazy amount of money that should be a team thing and not individual. Yes the players can be stars but they cant do it alone. Just my 2 cents.

I think what Manning should do is accept the NIL money while he can and if he doesn't want to touch it or use it, fine, but he should invest it in something safe or simply save it. The world is a volatile place, the economy could collapse, he should protect himself. Anarchy could happen and making money playing football may not happen any longer.
Get the money.
Better yet, get Jesus.

 

[dukesteer]

He is no Adrian Peterson or Jamaal Charles but he is good.

I will concede that after watching his first few games as a freshman, I was underwhelmed. Then the talent came through. That was different from what I had observed with Ricky (saw his first game in person, in Honolulu) or Cedric. With both, it was immediately obvious that those players would be special.

That said, I believe that Bijan will be an outstanding pro. Better than Charles. BR has a unique skill set that will serve him very well at the next level. To me the only aspect of his game inferior to Charles is speed. But quickness, cutting in a phone booth, blocking, ball security and receiving… He’s a special talent.

 

[dukesteer]

We didn’t pass on Tommy. He was set on TCU from the moment he entered the portal. His family has very close ties to Sonny Dykes. Blake worked with Dykes at smu. James will likely wind up at tcu too.

Carry, you are probably correct. But if I am not mistaken, after two years in the Bama program, Brockermeyer had not cracked the first two OL teams. What I am saying is that I don’t think Texas’ interest was substantial after he decided to finally portal.

 

[CreakyHorn]

Yeah, so he ended up signing with the #3 team in the nation. Will be interesting to see how it works out.

 

[CreakyHorn]

yeah that was me. I thought Bijan was overrated coming out of HS. I think i was also influenced by the lack of competition that is in Arizona compared to that of Texas. But during the course of his college career it turned out I was wrong. His lack of front end speed is still unsettling to me but he is very very good at cutting and making people miss. So I am happy that he turned out better than expected.
He is no Adrian Peterson or Jamaal Charles but he is good. I also love the character of the young man.

"He is no Adrian Peterson or Jamaal Charles but he is good. I also love the character of the young man." What does that mean? No Adrian Peterson or Jamaal Charles? Are you saying he's not as good a back as them? What exactly did you expect from a back running behind basically a freshman Oline?

 

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[Pomspoms]

"He is no Adrian Peterson or Jamaal Charles but he is good. I also love the character of the young man." What does that mean? No Adrian Peterson or Jamaal Charles? Are you saying he's not as good a back as them? What exactly did you expect from a back running behind basically a freshman Oline?

I mean to say that Bijan is not as good a running back as Adrian Peterson and Jamaal Charles.
my how quickly we have forgotten.

 

[Pomspoms]

I will concede that after watching his first few games as a freshman, I was underwhelmed. Then the talent came through. That was different from what I had observed with Ricky (saw his first game in person, in Honolulu) or Cedric. With both, it was immediately obvious that those players would be special.

That said, I believe that Bijan will be an outstanding pro. Better than Charles. BR has a unique skill set that will serve him very well at the next level. To me the only aspect of his game inferior to Charles is speed. But quickness, cutting in a phone booth, blocking, ball security and receiving… He’s a special talent.

better than Charles? very very doubtful.
Charles is the all time leader in yards per carry in NFL history! #1
or he was at one point nearing the end of his career. Will Bijan ever even get close to that? doubtful

 

[HornFinc]

Texas football sees a ‘legitimate opportunity to win’ 5-Star Duce Robinson
Well, okay then!

 

[dukesteer]

better than Charles? very very doubtful.
Charles is the all time leader in yards per carry in NFL history! #1
or he was at one point nearing the end of his career. Will Bijan ever even get close to that? doubtful

Let’s remember to have this discussion in about five years. If Bijan stays healthy and plays for a decent team, I think that he will outshine Charles.

Keep in mind that Charles was not an every down back. In fact, if I’m reading the statistics correctly — and please check me if you’re so inclined — he averaged less than 12 carries per game. So while his yards per carry are at the top of the list (5.4), his yards per game is a fairly pedestrian 63.6.

Charles was a great back, but he wasn’t a workhorse because he didn’t have the durability. Thus, the limited carries, and the career high Y/A.

 

[Pomspoms]

Let’s remember to have this discussion in about five years. If Bijan stays healthy and plays for a decent team, I think that he will outshine Charles.

Keep in mind that Charles was not an every down back. In fact, if I’m reading the statistics correctly — and please check me if you’re so inclined — he averaged less than 12 carries per game. So while his yards per carry are at the top of the list (5.4), his yards per game is a fairly pedestrian 63.6.

Charles was a great back, but he wasn’t a workhorse because he didn’t have the durability. Thus, the limited carries, and the career high Y/A.

well, you have made a case that Charles was under utilized. but that is about it.
Charles did have 1407 rushing attempts for 7,500 yards over 11 seasons and four pro bowls. Those are excellent stats.
Hopefully Bijan will have a long career in the NFL, as a rb, but only a handful have accomplished that.
If Bijan does better than that then he will be a lock for the hall of fame.
Charles speed enabled him to get a lot of long td runs which won't happen for Bijan. Sorry, but Bijan won't have as good a career as Charles.

 

[old65horn]

You have to factor in the quality of the OL.

Peterson, Dickerson, Charles et al were all average backs when one or two defenders met the in the backfield as soon as they got the handoff.

Robertson has not had the benefit of an average OL his first two years and several games this year. Both Robertson and QE are being critiqued as if they had at least an average OL which has not been the case.

Sark and Flood realized this and they have addressed that problem.

the number of Texas OL players drafted in recent
years verify this position.

 

[HalRex]

Mr Mustardson is a generational talent who’s complete story is yet to be told. Some people are just, in general, negative about “our” players and recruits. I , for one, am pro Bijan as well as the rest of the Horn players, recruits and coaches.

 

[22Horn]

KC drafted the LSU back (Laclaire) to be close to what JC was....not going to happen.

 

[2003TexasGrad]

I mean to say that Bijan is not as good a running back as Adrian Peterson and Jamaal Charles.
my how quickly we have forgotten.

If Bijan was at Texas between 2004 and 2006 hed have easily had at least one, if not two 2000 yard seasons. Mark it down.

 

[skandor akbar]

He had his chance but with the OL we have now it is apparent the coaches feel good about present talent....

Landing at TCU after he rejected Horn's and then left Ala, is a good outcome for him....good for him!!

What a shame. Sad to see a legacy like that end up like this. Was he massively overrated?

I am reading a book about several ex Longhorns. We did not win much during Blake Brockermeyer’s years at Texas and he sounded like he regretted the decision to go to Texas (he was being recruited by west coast schools).

 

[Badass]

Bijan has not been recruited in three years …