2020 Presidential Election: let the jockeying commence

[horninchicago]

So you wuote literally the most adult phrase Donald Trump uttered on the day of the riots and compare it to the most incendiary phrase.of the others.

I didn't write it. How did you get that I wrote that tweet? And, all due respect, you are full of **** when you make comments like "the most adult thing he said all day." The irony being that saying that is childish.

edit: I can se why maybe you thought I penned that tweet. It wasn't me. The content is still true. A shame all you get out if it is Trump's only adult line of the day.

 

[2003TexasGrad]

Respectfully, that's called reality.

Straight from the horse's mouth. When all the MSM say rioters attacking the Portland Federal Building are mostly peaceful but the 200,000 plus protesters at the Capitol are am insurgent mob then that must be reality.

Ok got it. Might as well end this thread now. The MSM have established reality so let's all just get in line.

 

[Crockett]

Damn spellchecker. I meant quote. The text of his public statements at the rally and the ones around the quote you included which expressed love for the rioters, understanding about the stolen election etc and promising that their actions would always be remembered

 

[2003TexasGrad]

So you quote literally the most adult phrase Donald Trump uttered on the day of the riots and compare it to the most incendiary phrase.of the others.

Yes Trump encouraged his supporters to March to the Capitol stating that he would never give up the fight. And? All those other inciteful quotes by your favorite media and political heroes aren't just as divisive?

 

[OUBubba]

Protifa are racists. Who knew?

Black Capitol Police Officers Describe The Racism They Faced

 

[iatrogenic]

Protifa are racists. Who knew?

Black Capitol Police Officers Describe The Racism They Faced

The “unnamed sources” know! They always know!

 

[Vol Horn 4 Life]

The “unnamed sources” know! They always know!

Unnamed sources is absolute proof to them. Sworn testimony under oath is not (from another thread). The hypocrisy is crazy with our liberal friends.

 

[Crockett]

If you're Republican 61 court cases and 3 recounts in Georgia validated all the way back to the paper ballots mean nothing. You believe only the guy who told you that if he were elected President he'd be too busy doing the people's work to golf.

 

[theiioftx]

If you're Republican 61 court cases and 3 recounts in Georgia validated all the way back to the paper ballots mean nothing. You believe only the guy who told you that if he were elected President he'd be too busy doing the people's work to golf.

Didn’t Stacey Abrams say her Governor election was corrupt? How was that changed? Oh yes, mail in ballots.

 

[theiioftx]

I would clarify my position once again. Congress needs to create a voting system that creates trust on both sides. I don’t know if there was a problem with this election, but I have no trust it was fair and free. This is dangerous for both sides.

 

[mchammer]

10 Times Democrats Urged Violence Against Trump And His Supporters

 

[mchammer]

28 Times Media And Democrats Excused Violence By Left-Wing Activists

 

[Monahorns]

Straight from the horse's mouth. When all the MSM say rioters attacking the Portland Federal Building are mostly peaceful but the 200,000 plus protesters at the Capitol are am insurgent mob then that must be reality.

Ok got it. Might as well end this thread now. The MSM have established reality so let's all just get in line.

2003TexasGrad, that is the problem. For the Left truth=whatever those in power say.

There is no way to debate truth anymore. It is a simple power play. It's obvious who has the power.

 

[mchammer]

 

[Monahorns]

mchammer, the narrative switches back and forth based on who is trying to wield power. When it is the Left, the narrative is what you posted. When it is the Right, it is sedition, insurrection, and a coup, even when those words don't describe the facts of the events. But at least 70% of the populace believes what they are told by those in power.

 

[Monahorns]

If you're Republican 61 court cases and 3 recounts in Georgia validated all the way back to the paper ballots mean nothing.

Crockett, that is my question. Were the paper ballots retained? The rules said to destroy the paper ballots after 2 days. Are you saying they didn't follow the protocol, retained the paper, and analyzed the paper ballots? That wasn't my understanding.

 

[OUBubba]

Didn’t Stacey Abrams say her Governor election was corrupt? How was that changed? Oh yes, mail in ballots.

They did a crap ton of voter registration.

 

[OUBubba]

Crockett, that is my question. Were the paper ballots retained? The rules said to destroy the paper ballots after 2 days. Are you saying they didn't follow the protocol, retained the paper, and analyzed the paper ballots? That wasn't my understanding.

Please point to the rules about destroying paper ballots within 2 days. That was one reason to go to paper so they could be audited and hand counted. Which they did.

 

[Monahorns]

Please point to the rules about destroying paper ballots within 2 days. That was one reason to go to paper so they could be audited and hand counted. Which they did.

It's what I read somewhere. I read lots of stuff. If I'm wrong, I open to evidence that physical ballots were kept and analyzed.

 

[Crockett]

10 Times Democrats Urged Violence Against Trump And His Supporters

I'm so old that I remember when principled conservatives railed against moral relativism. Every item mchammer mentioned is an embarrassment to people like me who believe civility should be a core value.

 

[theiioftx]

They did a crap ton of voter registration.

Riiiiiiight. CNN says so.

 

[Seattle Husker]

Didn’t Stacey Abrams say her Governor election was corrupt? How was that changed? Oh yes, mail in ballots.

Aren't Stacy Abrams complaints that 50k voters (48k were black) purged from the voter roles just prior to the election? That polling places in predominantly black areas were consolidated so that wait times reached 4 hours on election day? Do those sound like Trump's "fraud" claims?

 

[theiioftx]

Aren't Stacy Abrams complaints that 50k voters (48k were black) purged from the voter roles just prior to the election? That polling places in predominantly black areas were consolidated so that wait times reached 4 hours on election day? Do those sound like Trump's "fraud" claims?

But there can’t be fraud or shenanigans with the election. I know this to be true because CNN says so. Bubba says so - you say so. It must be true.

I reiterate that I care more that elections are fair and transparent more than I care who wins. And I want every American to trust the system. We cannot survive otherwise.

 

[Seattle Husker]

Crockett, that is my question. Were the paper ballots retained? The rules said to destroy the paper ballots after 2 days. Are you saying they didn't follow the protocol, retained the paper, and analyzed the paper ballots? That wasn't my understanding.

You really think the paper ballots were destroyed 2 days after the election? That would be a ludicrous "protocol" and against all the evidence we have to date, starting with those ballots were hand counted 2 weeks after the election and resulted on a close vote to the original count.

 

[OUBubba]

Riiiiiiight. CNN says so.

That’s what the GOP Secretary of State and head of elections say. I’d guess they know more than you and Lynn wood. The more you people deny that people didn’t like trump the longer this colon prep is gonna take. The left has their same issues with the HRC and Biden thing. Thankfully, trump was simply the worst of us for the foreseeable past and would frequently remind us how low he could go.

 

[bystander]

Without real evidence, the Republicans need to drop the fraud claims. But they need to fight back hard on the Left's absolute hypocrisy when it comes to Left-wing leadership provoking and dog whistling violence on their end.

 

[theiioftx]

Both parties and Biden could unify the country with bi-partisan legislation to set universal procedures for election integrity. The Dems claimed it in 2016 and spent four years fighting it. Now the republicans are doing the same thing. If Biden wants unity, here is his opportunity. But given his inflammatory racist rhetoric after Jan 6, he cares nothing about unity.

 

[PecosBill]

You really think the paper ballots were destroyed 2 days after the election? That would be a ludicrous "protocol" and against all the evidence we have to date, starting with those ballots were hand counted 2 weeks after the election and resulted on a close vote to the original count.

The paper ballots were retained and used for the audit and recount procedures per SofS. The envelopes the mail in ballots were sent in for privacy of the ballot information were discarded after separation.
The ballots were enclosed not a postcard.

 

[Seattle Husker]

The paper ballots were retained and used for the audit and recount procedures per SofS. The envelopes the mail in ballots were sent in for privacy of the ballot information were discarded after separation.
The ballots were enclosed not a postcard.

That makes sense. The privacy sleeves in WA have no discernable makings on them and would be useless in any audit. No signature, no ballot matching bar code, nothing. There is no discernable reason to retain the ballot sleaves, if they are similar to WA State.

That's quite different than destroying the paper ballots though.

 

[Crockett]

Yes.

Both parties and Biden could unify the country with bi-partisan legislation to set universal procedures for election integrity. The Dems claimed it in 2016 and spent four years fighting it. Now the republicans are doing the same thing. If Biden wants unity, here is his opportunity. But given his inflammatory racist rhetoric after Jan 6, he cares nothing about unity.

That's a really good idea. If you combine things that prevent the egregious voter suppression with safeguards for election integrity people could see a bipartisan win. Let's be clear though... you can never prevent something like Trump's stop the steal" campaign because it was never about fairness.