2020 Presidential Election: let the jockeying commence

Crockett said:
I didn't like or support, defend nor even minimize the riots this spring summer nor all the way back to Ferguson. Whataboutism 3,887 in my media feed duly noted.
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Yeah, I wasted 15 minutes of my life looking through old posts looking for me cheering on looting and burning.
 
You just waited to pull off the mask until this week. I get it. The mask got itchy and uncomfortable, and you really wanted to be yourself finally.

Then you got your chance to piss all over free speech. And you did. Congratulations comrade.
 
Do you think these people prosecuted?

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Horninchicago: maybe you need to spend some time with unfamiliar media. Given what we know about the people who died.and got arrested...I'm dumbfounded you don't think the riot was the work of Trump spporters. They weren't the brightest Trump supporters and even if they were all psychological studies of mob behavior show individuals tend to cede their conscience to the group. That's why mobs are so dangerous.
 
This is becoming the 2nd white whale. The first was the elusive evidence that the election was stolen. We now have unsupported claims that the troublemakers were Antifa.

Of course, just like in the "stolen election" saga, the claims are easily disproven. They've been disproven on this board with the notable exception of a single individual yet we continue to see denials. Cognitive dissonance is a hallmark of Trump supporters.
 
So who were those ‘body armored’ troops moving through the crowd? They certainly look like authorities. Btw, you recognize the song these ‘thugs’ were singing?
And catch and release is standard operation for all BLM. Just ask “sleepless in Seattle”.
 
At my gym, there is a line of TVs covering CNN, MSNBC, Fox News plus the big 3 networks. I wasn’t listening, but I could see the titles of what they were talking about. It’s almost verbatim of what the liberals on this board regurgitate. Y’all are like a thirsty dog lapping up water.
 
theiioftx said:
At my gym, there is a line of TVs covering CNN, MSNBC, Fox News plus the big 3 networks. I wasn’t listening, but I could see the titles of what they were talking about. It’s almost verbatim of what the liberals on this board regurgitate. Y’all are like a thirsty dog lapping up water.
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Yep. My wife had Fox News on the other day. I saw Newsmax clips. All being the same words to describe everything. They are all dirty.
 
theiioftx said:
At my gym, there is a line of TVs covering CNN, MSNBC, Fox News plus the big 3 networks. I wasn’t listening, but I could see the titles of what they were talking about. It’s almost verbatim of what the liberals on this board regurgitate. Y’all are like a thirsty dog lapping up water.
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Respectfully, that's called reality.
 
Sure it is. If you even begin to assert CNN is not a biased organization, you would have zero credibility on this board. Lap it up, lap it up.
 
theiioftx said:
Sure it is. If you even begin to assert CNN is not a biased organization, you would have zero credibility on this board. Lap it up, lap it up.
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The problem with Ignore is I think you are replying to someone else but you could have ben replying to me. Going with someone else.
 
theiioftx said:
Sure it is. If you even begin to assert CNN is not a biased organization, you would have zero credibility on this board. Lap it up, lap it up.
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I've never uttered the words "CNN is unbiased". In fact, bias exists everywhere. You, me, even Mr. Deez has a bias. The key is to understand the bias.

I was responding to your point that XX+XX+XX+XX new channels all were talking about the same thing. That's reality. Donald Trump did foment the unrest starting with his tweet on 12/19 that said "protests are going to be WILD!" His consistent claim of fraud before the election and after the election without evidence, even after losing 62 of 63 court cases. Guiliani further incited the crowd when he screamed it was "trial by combat" and Don Jr. of course added his own threats to anyone who stood up to them promising to "be in [their] backyards next week".

Reality can sting. It hurt those on the left when peaceful and justified George Floyd protests devolved into riots and looting. Those actions certainly ceded some of the moral high ground from what was a righteous response to a cold-blooded murder. Looting and rioting have no place in our democracy.
 
Seattle Husker said:
I've never uttered the words "CNN is unbiased". In fact, bias exists everywhere. You, me, even Mr. Deez has a bias. The key is to understand the bias.

I was responding to your point that XX+XX+XX+XX new channels all were talking about the same thing. That's reality. Donald Trump did foment the unrest starting with his tweet on 12/19 that said "protests are going to be WILD!" His consistent claim of fraud before the election and after the election without evidence, even after losing 62 of 63 court cases. Guiliani further incited the crowd when he screamed it was "trial by combat" and Don Jr. of course added his own threats to anyone who stood up to them promising to "be in [their] backyards next week".

Reality can sting. It hurt those on the left when peaceful and justified George Floyd protests devolved into riots and looting. Those actions certainly ceded some of the moral high ground from what was a righteous response to a cold-blooded murder. Looting and rioting have no place in our democracy.
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Talking about the same thing is very different than parroting the same thing. Titles like “Conservatives deserve backlash” and “Riot is Attack on Democracy” on 3-4 channels at the same time is collusion. They get their talking points from the DNC.
 
theiioftx said:
Talking about the same thing is very different than parroting the same thing. Titles like “Conservatives deserve backlash” and “Riot is Attack on Democracy” on 3-4 channels at the same time is collusion. They get their talking points from the DNC.
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Always back to the conspiracies. It's possible that progressives see the world through similar lenses and don't require talking points.

BTW, the assault on the Capitol Building while Congress was counting electoral votes WAS an attack on Democracy. They were literally trying to stop a Constitutionally mandated process. Not sure you can get more clear cut an attack onour foundations than that.
 
Was bubba serious? Dramatic? :confused2:
Ignoring people does not prevent them from posting and others reading does it?
You know each exercising their first amendment
But what Amazon Twitter etc are doing is in effect subverting our Constitution.
That is more than "dramatic"
 
Monahorns said:
Well, BLM was involved in storming the Capitol. If BLM is there, is it reasonable to assume Antifa was there too?

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The video of Ashli Babbit being shot by Security as she climbed thru the broken window of the door was recorded by Sullivan and the audio clearly shows that his attempts to warn the group about the drawn weapon he saw thru the door. He tried to stop the activity that resulted in her death.
 
https://nypost.com/2021/01/08/rage-...es-for-summer-riots-all-the-more-disgraceful/

“The upshot should be clear: The deadly storming of the Capitol building is the logical outcome of norms set by the left in 2020. By winking at and apologizing for Antifa, liberal elites telegraphed that political grievances ought to be resolved through violence.

Those showing righteous indignation now only months or weeks ago argued that the riots were “mostly peaceful” and that vandalism and looting don’t count as violence.

That’s the problem with political irresponsibility: Once the law grants quasi-authorization to hitherto-proscribed conduct, there’s no telling how events might spiral.”
 
Seattle Husker said:
Always back to the conspiracies. It's possible that progressives see the world through similar lenses and don't require talking points.

BTW, the assault on the Capitol Building while Congress was counting electoral votes WAS an attack on Democracy. They were literally trying to stop a Constitutionally mandated process. Not sure you can get more clear cut an attack onour foundations than that.
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Give the media a break. Nothing like this has ever happened before so there is no reasonable precedent for proper context.
 
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