2020 Presidential Election: let the jockeying commence

Maxine Waters calls any black who votes for Trump Shameful
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Guys, the video was obviously in Minnesota, as was pointed out. Low sun angle, no leaves on trees, everyone dressed for cold weather.

I hate Biden and what he stands for and he is a gaffeapalooza everywhere he goes, but he didn't say he was in MN while in Tampa.
 
Joe Fan said:
It's almost like they they get bitter, without guns or religion to cling to. And they they certainly have antipathy to people who aren't like them, as a way to explain their frustrations.
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They discovered that Texas outside of Houston, Dallas, and Austin is a little different. They had no problem with BLM protesters shouting at diners or otherwise harass Trump supporters. When a little bit blows back their way, they go apeshit. Again, if the trumpers were unsafe then that is over the line.
 
Joe Fan said:
Corey Lewandowski --
"Our new internals polls have the President up 2 pts in Michigan and 2.5 pts in Florida."​
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Wonder why President Trump seems to on average be doing better in MI than PA or WI? That was the closest of the three in 16. Maybe their wannabe dictator of a Governor has pushed voters to the R side, though I don’t know how much worse she was compared to the other governors. MI would be a nice win - probably mean James wins the Senate race.
 


Trump Train getting ready to leave the station today in Houston. Was a fun event. Great crowd, everyone super friendly and happy. Good number of blacks, Hispanics, and Asians too. Saw a Republic of South Vietnam flag flying too. Those folks know what happens when the communists take power.
 
Duck Dodgers said:
Wonder why President Trump seems to on average be doing better in MI than PA or WI? That was the closest of the three in 16. Maybe their wannabe dictator of a Governor has pushed voters to the R side, though I don’t know how much worse she was compared to the other governors. MI would be a nice win - probably mean James wins the Senate race.
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Maybe because he saved the B10 season, which may be more popular in MI and OH
 
mchammer said:
Maybe because he saved the B10 season, which may be more popular in MI and OH
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Ha, PA voters upset the season went forward at this point!

And note how no attention is being paid to having a higher overall national vote amount? It’s as if that’s not how the election is won, so no one is campaigning in CA, NY, or IL. And expect the national vote amount to be the endless topic in about a month.
 
mchammer said:
Was told these polls are conservative.
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I think President Trump wins FLA by 4. Very good position at the end of early voting, with much more in the way of Election Day votes left than the Democrats. Seems to have very good Hispanic support compared to 16.
Should be an early call if the media is honest, but they probably won’t be.
 
If Trump is up safely in FL between 7-8 pm, then all of media will be on suicide watch for rest of night.
 
Garmel said:
Trump up 4.8 in Ohio.

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One side of these pollsters/predictors are going to be spectacularly wrong and one side is going to be spectacularly right about the outcome of this election. There is no middle ground.

Those firms and individuals who went with Hillary in 2016 have doubled down on Biden and are making even crazier win margin predictions now.

The ones calling for Trump in 2016 are calling for Trump again (except IBD).

I've looked at enough of the granular county-by-county registration data to see Trump winning. And so, from my perspective, it seems like they learned nothing for 2016. Nothing! Maybe Scott Adams is right, it was all about fundraising. Either way, they need to be called out for the dishonesty.
 
Horn6721 said:
Maxine Waters calls any black who votes for Trump Shameful
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Clyburn said the same thing on Fox News. Clearly they are now worried about what is happening. They got phone calls and were told, "Do something!" But what could they do? Go on TV and make a show. That and some form of extortion are pretty much their only options.

Clyburn was angry on Fox. He was promised something big from Joe. And it worked. Clyburn can easily claim he saved Biden in 2020. But now he is realizing he might not get whatever it was he was promised. And he is pissed off about it.

It feels like they were forced to journey through the stages of grief in expedited fashion. Right now they seem to be transitioning from "denial" to "anger," "I cant believe folks are really going to vote for that ahole DJT."

Which means we still have "bargaining," "depression" to go. Raising the question of whether they will ever get to "acceptance?" Is that even possible with these people? I think to get to that stage, you must be honest. Do they seem like honest human beings to you?
 
Joe Fan said:
Poll this weekend suggesting Trump to get 24% of the black vote in North Carolina
That would be something
https://overland.amgreatness.com/app/uploads/2020/11/North-Carolina-Poll-Oct-31st.pdf
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How can that be since Jim Clyburn told blacks there to vote for Biden? Not racist, of course, when the media all said that is who they would vote for since they apparently can't think for themselves.

Edit: Hadn't seen your comment right above this one until just now. You invoked Lord Clyburn as well.
 
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horninchicago said:
How can that be since Jim Clyburn told blacks there to vote for Biden? Not racist, of course, when the media all said that is who they would vote for since they apparently can't think for themselves.
Edit: Hadn't seen your comment right above this one until just now. You invoked Lord Clyburn as well.
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He is SoCa, but yeah. He's made a lucrative career out of delivering the black vote for whomever and now he sees that grip fading away.

He is like Hunter when Joe was leaving office - "How am I supposed to pay my mortgagees now?"
 
Joe Fan said:
He is SoCa, but yeah. He's made a lucrative career out of delivering the black vote for whomever and now he sees that grip fading away.

He is like Hunter when Joe was leaving office - "How am I supposed to pay my mortgagees now?"
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I know, thus my facetious remark. But I stand by that if a Republican, let's say, Tim Scott, said whoever he endorses is who black people should vote for, it would be deemed as an insult that So. Carolina black residents can't think for themselves.
 
As you might anticipate, Biden has "the Karen Vote" locked up (60/40)
But even that is much less than I would have guessed - which was 99% of Karens for Joe. When a Dem loses 40% of the Karens, there is no coming back

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horninchicago said:
I know, thus my facetious remark. But I stand by that if a Republican, let's say, Tim Scott, said whoever he endorses is who black people should vote for, it would be deemed as an insult that So. Carolina black residents can't think for themselves.
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Agree. People in here make fun of the rappers and other black celebs who say something positive about Trump. But it makes a difference. It's giving folks cover to cross over. And this is just the beginning. It will be up to whomever comes after Trump to follow through and make these fissures permanent cracks.
 
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