2020 Presidential Election: let the jockeying commence

When I think of far right, I think of Neo Nazis and maybe a few other hate groups.
Click to expand...

Just why in the hell do people always associate the far right with Nazis? You understand the Nazis were socialists, right?
 
they were real patriotic, loved the military and had this thing for flags. And their socialism was nationalist, not internationalist, like your stereotypical leftist. They did not care a whit about their labor brothers in Poland, for example. And they were extremely hostile towards labor unions. These are examples of why most people tend to associate them with the right.

And their cheerleaders in the UK and the US were right wingers, not the people one usually associates with the international proletariat types.
 
Joe Kennedy was nobody’s idea of a liberal. His bonehead kids worked for and with McCarthy.

but look at the typical right winger in the US and they were closer to Franco than say Leon Blum.

I forgot to mention anti semitism
 
Joe Kennedy was a Nazi sympathizer and virulently anti semitic. Joe jr felt much the same way even if he did serve. JFK was not far behind.
Nothing right wing about those views
 
There was nothing socialistic about Nazi Germany, they were a 100% Authoritarian group. just because they called themselves National Socialist doesn't mean they were Socialist in the sense we see socialism today.
 
ETeDwOTUcAEVfQQ.jpg
 
Austin_Bill said:
There was nothing socialistic about Nazi Germany, they were a 100% Authoritarian group. just because they called themselves National Socialist doesn't mean they were Socialist in the sense we see socialism today.
Click to expand...

There were differences, but I wouldn't say there was "nothing socialistic" about Nazi Germany. Economically, they'd find quite a bit of common ground with people like Bernie Sanders.
 
Mr. Deez said:
There were differences, but I wouldn't say there was "nothing socialistic" about Nazi Germany. Economically, they'd find quite a bit of common ground with people like Bernie Sanders.
Click to expand...
Yet people can’t see or comprehend that Obamacare is a facist corporate healthcare program.
 
Tom Cotton describing Joe Biden's deep and long-standing ties to China
Joe Biden & China: He Takes Its Side, Reliably | National Review

" ..... Despite the occasional box-checking, wishy-washy comment slapping Beijing on the wrist for the worst of its abuses, the reality is that the former vice president’s support of the People’s Republic of China is deep and longstanding. In the critical fight over whether to grant most-favored-nation trade status and World Trade Organization membership to China in the 1990s — a fight in which, again, many of his party’s leaders in Congress were on the right side — Biden carefully shepherded China through the process from his powerful perch as the senior Democrat on the Senate Foreign Relations Committee. Wherever a brake might have been applied — by placing human-rights or labor conditions on most-favored-nation status, for example — Biden voted the measures down and lobbied other senators for Beijing. Unfortunately, China and Biden got their way, and American workers are still suffering from it.

It should have been a warning on more fronts than one when President Obama recruited Biden to his ticket to buttress his credibility on foreign policy; unsurprisingly, there was no about-face on Beijing. As the Chinese Communist Party gained strength and Xi Jinping seized absolute power, Biden continued to push for closer ties and even more trade. As for American workers? In February 2012, in friendly remarks with Xi standing next to him, Biden praised Beijing as a “new partner” that would help to meet “global challenges,” and said Americans “welcome this competition. . . . It pushes our companies to develop better products and services and our government to craft better policies.” Millions of American jobs were disappearing as he spoke, and the militarization of the South China Sea was just around the corner.

While warmer ties with China were devastating American workers and threatening our national security, they have been very good for the Biden family. Reporters thought it unusual when Hunter Biden, Biden’s prodigal son, accompanied him on a trip to Beijing in 2013. That same year, Hunter joined the board of a Shanghai-based private equity firm. In 2017, a few months after his father left office, he invested a substantial chunk of his own money in the company. We don’t know what he’s made off the deal, but I expect Hunter is doing better than laid-off workers in Arkansas or Delaware. Must be nice...."​
 
Last edited:
Hitler railed against individualism and capitalism many times. He hated it. He was a socialist, hence the name of the party.

The difference with Nazis and Bolsheviks was that Bolsheviks collectivized around class, proletariat was working class. Nazis collectivized around the Volk, ethnic Germans. The program was virtually the same but focused on a different privileged group.

Wokeness, with its ethnic based collectivism and cries against capitalism is similar to...
 
Congress could delay the election for a bit in the case of an emergency, but when the president and vice-president’s terms run out on January 20, 2021, they are out of office, period. And in that case, it seems, the next-in-the-line-of-succession official who is still in office would be empowered to occupy the Oval Office.

If, of course, there’s no general election in November, Trump and Pence aren’t the only elected officials out of a job, so crazy things could happen. While the Speaker of the House is third in the line of presidential succession, Nancy Pelosi is also up for reelection this year and so would face the same scenario as Trump and Pence if the election were to be canceled. The next in the line of succession who does not face voters in November is Chuck Grassley, the Senate’s president pro tempore. But then again, 23 Republican senators are up for reelection this year and would be on the sidelines as well, so we could have a Democratic Senate and perhaps a president pro tempore Pat Leahy (that position traditionally goes to the oldest senator of the majority party).

hes-right-you-know-gif-4.gif
 
LongestHorn said:
Congress could delay the election for a bit in the case of an emergency, but when the president and vice-president’s terms run out on January 20, 2021, they are out of office, period. And in that case, it seems, the next-in-the-line-of-succession official who is still in office would be empowered to occupy the Oval Office.

If, of course, there’s no general election in November, Trump and Pence aren’t the only elected officials out of a job, so crazy things could happen. While the Speaker of the House is third in the line of presidential succession, Nancy Pelosi is also up for reelection this year and so would face the same scenario as Trump and Pence if the election were to be canceled. The next in the line of succession who does not face voters in November is Chuck Grassley, the Senate’s president pro tempore. But then again, 23 Republican senators are up for reelection this year and would be on the sidelines as well, so we could have a Democratic Senate and perhaps a president pro tempore Pat Leahy (that position traditionally goes to the oldest senator of the majority party).

hes-right-you-know-gif-4.gif
Click to expand...

Oh, it's possible. The odds of it happening are ridiculously slim.
 
Last edited:
LongestHorn said:
Congress could delay the election for a bit in the case of an emergency, but when the president and vice-president’s terms run out on January 20, 2021, they are out of office, period. And in that case, it seems, the next-in-the-line-of-succession official who is still in office would be empowered to occupy the Oval Office.

If, of course, there’s no general election in November, Trump and Pence aren’t the only elected officials out of a job, so crazy things could happen. While the Speaker of the House is third in the line of presidential succession, Nancy Pelosi is also up for reelection this year and so would face the same scenario as Trump and Pence if the election were to be canceled. The next in the line of succession who does not face voters in November is Chuck Grassley, the Senate’s president pro tempore. But then again, 23 Republican senators are up for reelection this year and would be on the sidelines as well, so we could have a Democratic Senate and perhaps a president pro tempore Pat Leahy (that position traditionally goes to the oldest senator of the majority party).

hes-right-you-know-gif-4.gif
Click to expand...
For the love of God, another 80 year old white male senator from Vermont is all you got? He is heterosexual too BTW.
 
iatrogenic said:
If he really wanted a coup, he would let the Knesset and courts convene, not prevent it.
Click to expand...

And this kind of crap is what I was talking about in the other thread. If Trump had taken some really bold or assertive actions early on, the media would have said he was "seizing power" or "launching a coup." To the national media, there was no "right way" for him to handle it.
 
You must log in or register to reply here.

Weekly Prediction Contest

* Predict HORNS-AGGIES *
Sat, Nov 30 • 6:30 PM on ABC

Recent Threads

Prediction Results Threads

2024 Schedules

Back
Top