This is my prediction.
2020 Presidential Election: let the jockeying commence
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This is my prediction.
Monahorns
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Good article about how not to think of politics.
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Joe Fan
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Good chance she would be president if they won given Joe's declining facilities.
Even without death, he is already a candidate to be 25th'd. That guy cant be turned loose with the nuclear codes
Joe Fan
10,000+ Posts
The MSM could perform a public service to tame some of this nonsense if they were willing to do so, as they used to be willing to do.
It's simple. Let's say I were Jeff Zucker, I would tell my people, yes you report this as news -- that Jane Fonda announced she supports Bernie while also saying rich white men are the root of all evil. But you must also include the fact that she was married to the richest white male in the world for 10 years.
Joe Fan
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I guess things got a little out of hand with Biden today at an auto plant
Biden stuck his finger in the face of a blue collar Americans
Said plant worker was "full of shyte"
Female staffer tries to end it, he shushes her
Biden goes on to to the guy a "horses ***"
Even threatened to take the man "outside"
The "smart" types on the left actually think this makes Biden look good.
Biden stuck his finger in the face of a blue collar Americans
Said plant worker was "full of shyte"
Female staffer tries to end it, he shushes her
Biden goes on to to the guy a "horses ***"
Even threatened to take the man "outside"
The "smart" types on the left actually think this makes Biden look good.
Looks like Joe B has won Michigan, Minnesota and Mississippi. So... he appears to be the presumptive nominee... an old white man whose family CLEARLY helps themselves to the trough...
Excerpts from Fortunate Son by CCR:
Some folks are born silver spoon in hand
Lord, don't they help themselves, oh
It ain't me
It ain't me
I ain't no Senator's son
Ain't that right Hunter?
But no problem on the Left. Arrogance, cynicism and egomania; emotional pathology that knows no limits when it comes to hypocrisy. The only thing I can say is their fan base is even more brain-washed than they think "Trumpers" are.
Excerpts from Fortunate Son by CCR:
Some folks are born silver spoon in hand
Lord, don't they help themselves, oh
It ain't me
It ain't me
I ain't no Senator's son
Ain't that right Hunter?
But no problem on the Left. Arrogance, cynicism and egomania; emotional pathology that knows no limits when it comes to hypocrisy. The only thing I can say is their fan base is even more brain-washed than they think "Trumpers" are.
Statalyzer
10,000+ Posts
We're gonna go take the House! And gonna go take the Senate! And then go to South Dakota, and Arizona, and North Carolina, and Oregon, and Michigan! And we're gonna go to DC and take the White House! YEEEARRRGH!
That story easily translates into the Democratic party.
OUBubba
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Compared to the current dude he’s a Mensa candidate and cool as a cucumber.
Cool as a cucumber? Did you see Biden threatening to assault a man today?
OUBubba
5,000+ Posts
I saw him not taking a guys ****. Being the guy that Colonel Bone Spurs wants to be.
Not taking a guy's ****? The guy just asked a question. If it'd been Trump threatening another person you wouldn't have the same response and you know it.
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LongestHorn
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I like Stacey Abrams for VP.
Barry, there are some pretty big differences. First, the voter isn't full of ****. Might he ultimately turn out to be wrong? Maybe. However, when Biden promised to put Beta in charge of dealing with gun control, he gave voters like this guy very good reason to assume he would crap on the Second Amendment. In fact, he would be foolish not to think so.
Second, you all miscalculate when you cheer on Biden being belligerent and foul-mouthed just because Trump acts like that, because you don't account for who tends to be the targets of such conduct. With Trump, it's usually journalists, pundits, and other DC insiders. When Biden does it, it is usually voters. Very big difference.
Third, there's a difference in authenticity. When Trump talks like that, that largely fits the persona he has had for years. He's pretty much being himself, for better or for worse. Biden has always been more blunt than most politicians, but for the most part of the last 50 years, he has been more measured and less profane than he is here. It looks somewhat contrived and forced. Why does that matter? Because at some point he's going to debate Trump and try to talk ****, and it won't work very well. If you're a phony ****-talker, you're going to look awkward and fraudulent next to a real ****-talker.
No chance in hell does he pick her. And he'd be a damn fool to pick her. She won't be enough to deliver Georgia to him, and her schtick would going go over like a fart in an elevator in Michigan, Wisconsin, and Pennsylvania.
If he wants to run up the score in New York City and San Francisco, she'd be fine. If he actually wants to win the election, he needs someone who can win back blue collar voters. She's not going to do that.
Seattle Husker
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That is BS. Look at multiple Trump rallies in 2016 where he encouaged harassment of other voters. The only difference is that this is one of your guys, not a liberal protester. Think this guy is ever voting Democrat if he believes the tripe Biden wants to remove all guns? Yes, that isn't even a rational position. You've lost your moorings Mr. Deez.
On this point Biden should have kept his cool despite the obvious misstatement of Biden's longstanding views on gun rights. Let's quit with the double standards though. They are unbecoming of such an esteemed poster.
LongestHorn
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It’s likely he picks a woman running mate. You know I value Warren, dislike Klobuchar. We’ll see.
A few things to break down here. First, I didn't say Trump never goes after other voters. I said what he usually does.
Second, you analogize a pro-gun autoworker with a liberal protester. Which one do you think Michiganders and voters in general in swing states identify with more? They're not comparable.
Third, am I really losing my moorings? Let me give you my rationale, and please tell me what I'm getting wrong here. Biden has said that O'Rourke is going to "take care of the gun problem with me." That implies an administration position tasked with gun issues. O'Rourke has endorsed a mandatory buyback program. In fact, he made himself famous for it. "Mandatory" means "you don't get a choice." Yes, that is taking guns away. Does that mean Biden will push for a mandatory buyback program? Maybe not, but is that really a crazy assumption? Why wrap yourself up with Beto, not just in general but specifically on that issue if you don't want to create that impression?
If it is a crazy assumption, I'm gonna have to plead stupidity here. I honestly don't see how that's unreasonable. I see how it's possible for the assumption to end up being wrong. I don't see how it's unreasonable for the assumption to exist at all.
It's also worth noting that despite his gruff persona, Biden's record on gun rights over the years generally isn't favorable. There are more radical gun control advocates out there, but he has leaned much more in their direction than in the pro-gun direction. He certainly hasn't done anything that should give him the benefit of doubt.
And would that guy automatically not vote Democratic? I'm not so sure. Most Michigan Democrats at least historically haven't been wildly anti-gun. Outside of Detroit, they were moderate to pro-gun on the issue. Remember, John Dingell called the ATF "jack booted government thugs." Plenty of pro-gun Michiganders have voted Democratic. They're union members and some farmers (though obviously far fewer farmers in recent years).
We're misunderstanding each other. I don't think he lost his cool, and I'm not making a moral judgment on it. If you want to tell someone he's full of ****, go ahead. It's a free country. I tell people here that they're full of **** all the time. My point is that I don't think it's a smart strategy.
Contrast this with the Joe the Plumber incident. Obama could have told him he was full of ****, and he chose not to. Did conservatives rip Obama for it anyway? Of course, and they'd rip Biden either way. However, Obama's handling didn't offend anyone who wasn't already in the tank for the GOP, because he wasn't an ******* to Joe the Plumber. If you're a gun-friendly, autoworker (a constituency that Biden needs or at least can't have voting heavily for Trump), it might piss you off to see Biden disrespecting somebody that you may not know but might relate to.
I know what you're thinking. "But Trump insults protesters." Again, your average swing voter in Michigan doesn't relate to a protester. He does relate to a gun-friendly autoworker, and that's the big difference.
He's not going to pick Warren either. She brings more liability than Abrams does.
Just out of curiosity, why do you dislike Klobuchar so much? I'm not necessarily a fan, but she brings a lot to the table. First, she likely would lock up Minnesota for the Democrats, which is not a foregone conclusion otherwise. Second, she relates very well in swing states. Even if I wouldn't vote for her, I totally understand why she wins. Third, on policy, she's pretty liberal even if she is rhetorically pragmatic and likable. I don't like that, but that's only because of policy disagreement. If you're a Democrat, I don't see why you wouldn't.
I guess I kinda like her, because she's what I would like if she was a conservative. I'm a little jealous. I wish we had an Amy Klobuchar. Instead, we have a smack-talking, undisciplined, orange guy - the complete opposite of Amy Klobuchar.
LongestHorn
2,500+ Posts
***** is known to throw staplers/binders etc at her staff. So, no.
Do we know that to be true? I thought that as just rumor. And is that really the extent of your reasoning? If she didn't throw staplers (or if you didn't know that she did), you'd be OK with her?
And bear in mind that LBJ showed people his junk and made staff sit with him while he took a dump. Would that have been a disqualifier? Because I think I'd rather have a stapler thrown at me.
Me too.....
LongestHorn
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Temperament matters. No to Klobachar. Yes to Abrams aka “Tank”
Funny, I was certain that Biden was running a campaign to be in Trump’s position.
Not paying her federal taxes when owed and mismanagement of her personal finances makes her a perfect fit as a Democrat.
Most of her staff are probably liberals and therefore probably entitled, lazy, and bad at math. While I don't condone the actions, I can understand her frustration.
And before Bubba gets his schooner all bent out of shape, I'm actually not joking.
Joe Fan
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