2020 Presidential Debate #1 Thread

I didn't watch. I'm voting for Trump no matter what the outcome of the debate. Sounds like Wallace channeled his inner Candy Crowley and tried to tip the debate to Biden. Why do the moderators always have to be liberal media figures? Why not a Tucker Carlson or a Bill O'Reilly? I might watch that debate.
 
I am not sure who won the debate to be honest. It was more a clash of personalities than a debate. Surprisingly, a Telemundo poll had Trump as the overwhelming winner.

I do think that Biden may have alienated some of his left wing support with his comments on the Green New Deal, law enforcement, and socialism. It's a little frustrating the he was allowed to flat out lie about his previous (sometimes current) positions without being challenged by Wallace. I have typically been a Wallace fan but he really hurt his credibility tonight.
 
There is a reason Trump's camp wanted Biden drug tested and checked for an ear piece or wire. No other explanation on how he was pretty lucid compared to every interview or speech he has given recently.
 
Listenened to parts of it again. At the end Joe Biden said "antifa is not an organization, it's an idea"

An "idea" didn't burn Minneapolis to the ground last summer. An idea didn't burn Portland for 100 days, kill people in Seattle and Portland

This now obsolete phrase of "white supremacy groups are the #1 threat to America " died over the summer. Sorry, people aren't that fkn stupid. We see buildings burning, people being assaulted and even killed on the streets ("here's another one, over here!").

End white supremacy. But don't tell me "the #1 threat" is something other than the 100 plus days of violence I've seen night after night
 
Deez, I skipped the zhitshow and ate a pizza and washed it down with three Spatens. Wish I was back in Germany right now
 
It was absurd how Wallace asked for a condemnation from trump on that but nothing from Biden on BLM/Antifa, as if Trump is a member of white supremacy groups.

Wallace is a POS. Maybe it isn't his job to fact check and correct egregious errors. But his loathing of Trump could not be hidden.

Apparently, as seen a few post up or so, Biden's wire couldn't be hidden either.
 
horninchicago said:
Yeah why not have Bret Baier be the moderator? It's like Fox News thinks its only serious person there is Wallace.
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If you are going to allow Anderson Cooper to be a mod, then let Tucker Carlson do one too. For some reason, they push Cooper out there as a moderate or the middle.

Check out the poor translators here - lol
 
Good point @Joe Fan. But when it is Fox News, it has to be someone who is purported to be neutral and a serious journalist/correspondent. Anything goes with the other networks.
 
horninchicago said:
It was absurd how Wallace asked for a condemnation from trump on that but nothing from Biden on BLM/Antifa, as if Trump is a member of white supremacy groups.

Wallace is a POS. Maybe it isn't his job to fact check and correct egregious errors. But his loathing of Trump could not be hidden.

Apparently, as seen a few post up or so, Biden's wire couldn't be hidden either.
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Biden did say ANTIFA was an idea... he dodged it but the Left refuses to admit that ANTIFA is real and that they are a lawless menace.
 
Biden's entire adult life has been inside the Beltway. Same as Pelosi. That they can really pretend they have nothing to do with the incredible problems our country faces is an outrage. This is not to say Trump is the answer. He did not run the national debt up to 26 trillion dollars as it was in 2016. All of the problems that we have were caused by Congress's entitlement, royalty status and untouchable unaccountability.

And Biden stands there as the answer. He is not.

The stipulations we accept are unbelievable. Biden wants us to believe that nothing that happened before 2016 matters. That his tenure was somehow marked by good, wonderfulness and that all we need to get back to the good times is to elect him.

Take the problems with the police. Watch the movie Serpico (or read the book; I've done both). That stuff occurred back in the 70's. That wasn't Trump's fault. Who was in power in the federal government? Before and after. BIDEN AND PELOSI for starters. This is old news and I don't blame black people for their frustrations. But Biden and Pelosi are successfully pinning it all on Trump as if he ordered the police, WHO REPORT TO THEIR LOCAL CITY COUNCILS, MANY OF WHICH ARE IN DEMOCRATIC STRONGHOLDS, to attack black people and shoot them randomly in cold blood. And yet when Trump offers to send in the troops he is rebuffed by these local politicians.

It's ridiculous.

But the American people are emotionally immature and that's putting it mildly. They are unable to think beyond their world-class hang-ups and these people are experts at digging up our bitterness, and re-planting it, to grow an orchard of fruit; to pick, to eat and live on.

We do need police reform. We need to fix that problem. It's been with us a long time. My point is that it didn't start in 2016. But somehow the American people can't even get that far in their thought process.
 
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I didn't watch. I'm voting for Trump no matter what the outcome of the debate. Sounds like Wallace channeled his inner Candy Crowley and tried to tip the debate to Biden. Why do the moderators always have to be liberal media figures? Why not a Tucker Carlson or a Bill O'Reilly? I might watch that debate.
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I suspect 99%+ already has their minds made up, and that debate changed no one's vote. This election will come down to how successful the Dems are at cheating.

There was a Minnesota Senate election a few cycles ago. The R won, but it was close. There was a recount. It ended up in Court. The Dem then magically won (again, this was Minnesota). There was actual fraud on the Dem side but the R did not challenge those votes in a timely fashion because he felt he had enough margin. If he had made the challenge, he would have won because the bad votes were overt. But since he did not, by the time the case made it to appeal, it was too late, the Court would not consider his "new evidence," even though it was incontrovertible. I think the entire process took 8 or 9 months. Later, the D turned out to be a creepy, abuser of women and resigned in shame.

There is a lesson here for Trump. Challenge everything, even where you won. Put the time and money into making a strong record of everything, all sufficient enough to stand up on appeal. It's worth it. History shows you must box these people in from all sides. They are very slippery.
 
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Joe Fan said:
I suspect 99%+ already has their minds made up, and that debate changed no one's vote. This election will come down to how successful the Dems are at cheating.

There was a Minnesota Senate election a few cycles ago. The R won, but it was close. There was a recount. It ended up in Court. The Dem then magically won (again, this was Minnesota). There was actual fraud on the Dem side but the R did not challenge those votes in a timely fashion because he felt he had enough margin. If he had made the challenge, he would have won because the bad votes were overt. But since he did not, by the time the case made it to appeal, it was too late, the Court would not consider his "new evidence," even though it was incontrovertible. I think the entire process took 8 or 9 months. Later, the D turned out to be a creepy, abuser of women and resigned in shame.

There is a lesson here for Trump. Challenge everything, even where you won. Put the time and money into making a strong record of everything, all sufficient enough to stand up on appeal. It's worth it. History shows you must box these people in from all sides. They are very slippery.
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60th vote for Obamacare
 
To me that looks like a crease in his shirt. However, whatever he has on his wrist looks like a wire.
 
Next debate is VP debate next Wednesday. They should have the candidates clean up the pieces from this debate.
 
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