Venezuelan Update (Florida Maquis)

[Joe Fan]

Venezuela was socialist in many ways long before Chavez. What Chavez did was attempt to take the profits away from privately controlled foreign companies and corrupt Venezuelan poliiticians, and share the wealth for the benefit of the population. And it worked until prices cratered. Did you know that? Basically the same thing Iran attempted to do in the early 1950s. The difference was that the US was able to eject the elected Iranian President via CIA/MI5 engineered coup and install our own dictator, the Shah, but was unable to accomplish the same with Chavez.

The US has since launched a massive sanctions and propaganda campaigns against both Iran and Venezuela, using "humanitarian or terror" designations as justifications. Naturally, no such actions and propaganda are disseminated to the public toward the Saudis or Colombians. Of course, the people who are suffering in Iran and Venezuela see the American government as the true terrorists as the US uses the dollar as a weapon to shut off all funding and punish any nation or country that wants to trade or assist these nations. In short, no nation is to have sovereignty except for the United States (and even here, personal freedom is constantly under attack).

(a) He failed masterfully. I was dating a girl from Spain back then. She was very sympathetic to them As soon as he began reforms, I told her it it would fail. We argued some, but I knew it would fail because history has shown it always does. She is back in Spain, but now concedes the point. You are the only holdout
(b) Stop blaming the US for their idiotic ideas (and everything else that ever happens anywhere in the world)

You Russians are worse than a religious cult

 

[Musburger1]

DOJ says Maduro expressly indented on flooding the US with cocaine to harm the health and well-being of the United States.

You are quite selective as to what you believe from the DOJ. When its obvious nonsense about Trump, you rightly dismiss it as political propaganda. When its obvious nonsense directed at a geopolitical target, its gospel truth.

 

[Musburger1]

And you, Joe, are one of the most stupid people I've ever encountered.

 

[Joe Fan]

And you, Joe, are one of the most stupid people I've ever encountered.

You can stop encountering me easily enough. Go back onto time out

 

[Musburger1]

You can stop encountering me easily enough. Go back onto time out

Someone has to refute your nonsense. Might as well be me.

 

[Chop]

If Maduro is deposed, his opposition can largely thank these guys for crashing the oil markets off the cliff:

If the oil crash lasts long, I don't see how Maduro survives it in power.

 

[Musburger1]

Venezuelan President Is Charged in the U.S. With Drug Trafficking

"President Nicolás Maduro of Venezuela was charged in the United States on Thursday with federal drug trafficking crimes after an investigation by federal authorities in Washington, New York and Florida,..."​

This is just too great. Joe, your foreign policy heroes have just made another colossal miscalculation. The MSM isn't going to report on this, so I will. Of course, apologizers like yourself just shrug it off. Link.

Whoever wrote and signed of the indictment also made a huge mistake. The charges included Clíver Antonio Alcalá Cordones, a former General in the Venezuelan armed forces, and put a $10 million reward on his head.

Alcalá Cordones is no friend of Maduro. He retired in 2013 when Maduro was elected after Hugo Chávez had died. Alcalá Cordones fled to Colombia from where he supported the U.S. chosen clown Juan Guaidó as self proclaimed president of Venezuela.

After the Justice Department indictment against him he came out and revealed that he was involved in coup plans in support of Juan Guaidó:

Alcalá is implicated in a recent plot to attack the Maduro government. On March 24, Colombian authorities seized a truck full of weapons and military equipment, including 26 assault rifles, worth $500,000. Venezuelan intelligence services linked the weapons to three camps in Colombia where paramilitary groups of Venezuelan deserters and U.S. mercenaries are training to carry out attacks against Venezuela. According to Venezuela’s Communication Minister Jorge Rodríguez, these groups were planning to take advantage of the COVID-19 pandemic to attack military units and plant bombs. He also linked the groups to Alcalá.

These allegations proved to be correct, as Alcalá, in a video he posted online hours after the indictments, admitted that the weapons were under his command. He further admitted that the weapons were purchased with funds given to him by Juan Guaidó, with whom he allegedly signed a contract. Additionally, Alcala claimed that the operation was planned by U.S. advisors, with whom he supposedly met at least seven times. Aclalá also alleged that Leopoldo López, the founder of Guaidó’s party Voluntad Popular who was sprung from house arrest during Guaidó’s April 30 attempted insurrection, had full knowledge of the terror plot.

As a result of these videos, Venezuela’s Attorney General has opened an investigation into Juan Guaidó for an attempted coup.

The U.S. blew it by accusing the one man that was willing to help its chosen clown and by not informing him before the indictment came out. That man then freaked out and blew the whistle. This is now threatening the whole opposition plan the U.S. concocted with Guaidó and the men behind him.

On Friday Alcalá Cordones decided it was unsafe for him to stay in Colombia. He 'called up' the U.S. Drug Enforcement Administration and gave himself up. He was extradited to New York and will now become a 'witness' against Maduro who he has publicly opposed in the first place.

This chaos was certainly created by Elliott Abrams, the neoconservative U.S. Special Representative for Venezuela. Abrams has a talent for messing things up.​

 

[Dionysus]

And you, Joe, are one of the most stupid people I've ever encountered.

Let’s plow through this crap one more time...

See the Posting Guidelines, paragraph 1:

Please be respectful of your fellow members, as well as the coaches and players. Personal attacks, name-calling and aggressive messages are not acceptable.

Don’t do this here.

 

[Musburger1]

Let’s plow through this crap one more time...

See the Posting Guidelines, paragraph 1:

Please be respectful of your fellow members, as well as the coaches and players. Personal attacks, name-calling and aggressive messages are not acceptable.

Don’t do this here.

Yeah, well I hope you enforce this both ways. When someone hurls false or libelous accusations at me I’m not necessarily going to turn the other cheek.

 

[Dionysus]

Yeah, well I hope you enforce this both ways. When someone hurls false or libelous accusations at me I’m not necessarily going to turn the other cheek.

If someone is in violation of the guidelines, please hit the Report button below the post and let me know. I can’t see every post so that will help me to address it.

 

[Musburger1]

Interesting how little attention given this subject by the media. Trump’s incompetent thugs (Elliott Abrams, Pompeo, etc) continue to tarnish America’s image by backing this nonsense over and over.
Breaking Down The Absolutely Batshit Coup Attempt Against Venezuela's Maduro

 

[Joe Fan]