UT, OU, and SEC?

[bystander]

Man, I forgot all the excuses.
At least Smart was upfront about the loss.
Mild-mannered Eric Stokes drops ‘blood bath’ line on Texas, Oklahoma SEC addition

"Offensively, UGA was out of its rhythm. Former coordinator Jim Chaney -- perhaps with one foot out the door to Tennessee -- was slow to adjust to the Longhorns’ defense."

You mean like Sark having one foot out the door to Texas when he put on a clinic for the world to see in the national championship game? Yeah... I'm just sure Chaney wanted a poor performance on his part ringing in the ears of all the players he wanted to recruit at Tenn.

 

[nashhorn]

Just thinking about the motivation of the other B12 teams next few years. Ugh, as if Sark didn’t have enough on his plate.

 

[bystander]

Just thinking about the motivation of the other B12 teams next few years. Ugh, as if Sark didn’t have enough on his plate.

That's assuming their hate still has room for more air in the balloon. I hope someone told him that the Horns already get everyone's best game.

 

[bystander]

Psychology majors help me out here—is there a term for victims of bullies (or other tormentors) who stick up for their bullies/tormentors and constantly kiss the a$$ of those who kick their a$$ ???

Co-dependent

 

[LonghornCatholic]

 

[Phil Elliott]

Looking at the bright side, I am glad to leave the POS Big12. I've wanted out of that crappy conference for 10 years. SEC was not my 1st choice, but I would put it at #2. At least the powers at UT want to run with the big dogs for once. I hope this means the dawn of a new day at UT where we, as a school, make winning football championships our top priority the way OU, Alabama, Ohio State, et al, do. I always got the feeling that the UT administration thought that sort of thing unseemly.

 

[LonghornCatholic]

 

[Chop]

If that holds, then looks like it will be WV back to the ACC.
ISU might still be in the running for the B1G.
KU??? Their football is so terribly weak.

Michigan and Ohio State are the Texas and Oklahoma of that league, and they'll either hold it together, or bolt and blow it all up.

 

[LonghornCatholic]

 

[Chop]

Well, take this with a grain of salt. I bet if one certain non-AAU school said "Hey B1G, we're interested, can we join?", the red carpet would be rolled out for them.

Our Members | Association of American Universities (AAU)

 

[NJlonghorn]

In the pod system, you'd have to have a tournament like baseball just to determine a conference champion.

That depends on how the structure it. The system I prefer would divide the conference into 4 pods, and then rotate which two pods form a division each year. In year one, pods 1 and 2 would be Division A and pods 3 and 4 would be Division B. In the second year, you pair pod 1 with pod 3 and pod 2 with pod 4. In the interest of overexplaining, I'll add that you match pod 1 with pod 4 and pod 2 with pod 3 in the third year. Each division plays a regular-season round robin, and the winners play in a CCG.

If the conference has 20 teams, that would leave 4 pods of 5 teams each, and the round robin would have 9 teams per game. Add two non-conference games, and voila -- you have a schedule. You play teams in your own pod every year, and teams in the other 3 pods every third year (home and away once per 6 years).

If there are 4 pods of 4 teams each, there would only be 7 divisional games per team, leaving room for a cross-divisional game or two per season. You could preserve traditional rivalries, or you could draw up a power-matching formula.

 

[NJlonghorn]

Well, take this with a grain of salt. I bet if one certain non-AAU school said "Hey B1G, we're interested, can we join?", the red carpet would be rolled out for them.

For sure. AAU membership is a proxy for "good school". Notre Dame isn't an AAU member because it doesn't choose to apply, but it does meet the academic standards. In fact, Notre Dame would be the second best school in the B1G, at least according to the US News rankings.

 

[Chop]

I think they have metrics regarding research $ expended, etc. There's a focus on graduate research in the AAU. I believe ND is primarily focused on undergraduate education and really isn't a big graduate research institution.

Here we go (from a basic overview on Wiki):

"AAU membership is by invitation only, which requires an affirmative vote of three-fourths of current members. Invitations are considered periodically, based in part on an assessment of the breadth and quality of university programs of research and graduate education, as well as undergraduate education. The association ranks its members using four criteria: research spending, the percentage of faculty who are members of the National Academies, faculty awards, and citations." (in other words, they really look at what level of a research institution it is).

Association of American Universities - Wikipedia

Sort-of old-timers: think of "Dollar Bill" Cunningham -- 'This is a graduate research institution', top priority was raising $$$$ for research. I'm not saying this is a bad thing (as long as undergraduate education doesn't suffer too much). It's just how it is, and that's exactly what the AAU seems to be looking for.

We're in it.
OU is not.

 

[n64ra]

In this day and age, I find it hard to believe the Big 10 would require AAU, but if so, they can grab some more ACC members like UNC, Duke, and Pitt. Or take Iowa State !

 

[Giovanni Jones]

My biggest issue honestly? There's nothing "EASTERN" about Texas.

When I was a youth, it really bothered me that the Dallas Cowboys were in the NFC-East. But, at length, I learned to accept it.

 

[Chop]

In this day and age, I find it hard to believe the Big 10 would require AAU, but if so, they can grab some more ACC members like UNC, Duke, and Pitt. Or take Iowa State !

Yeah really...

If they're going to be mindlessly dogmatic about it, then Iowa State is a better "get" than Notre Dame for the B1G...! And so is Pitt...!

Sounds like a good way for the B1G to get passed by the ACC.

 

[EDT]

 

[NJlonghorn]

I think they have metrics regarding research $ expended, etc. There's a focus on graduate research in the AAU. I believe ND is primarily focused on undergraduate education and really isn't a big graduate research institution.

That's all true. But at the end of the day, the B1G doesn't really care whether their members are "research institutions" -- they are just trying to protect the conference's academic reputation by excluding lower-ranked schools. Of the current members, only Nebraska falls outside the US News top 100 academically.

Lack of AAU membership is a safe proxy for them to use. It excludes a whole host of teams that are of no interest to the B1G academically (e.g., OU, WVU), athletically (e.g., Georgetown, Cincinnati ), or both (e.g. Oklahoma State, Baylor).

In fact, using AAU membership as a proxy eliminates only one school that would otherwise be a good match both academically and athletically. And the B1G could easily explain away its prior statement if that one school came a-calling.

 

[4th_floor]

Aggy is AAU. When we join the SEC, Aggy can run crying to the B1G.

 

[dukesteer]

Texas can't win the weak tit Big XII,

Well my friend, not yet. But things change. Let’s see how we’re looking the evening of October 9th, and in December. I just can’t believe we will be wandering in the desert for much longer.

 

[horninchicago]

We aren’t Arkansas

Yeah, that's a real epiphany there, but who are we for the last decade? Sounds very aggy to proclaim we will now win and recruit etc.

 

[LonghornCatholic]

 

[rreading]

And in that Twitter thread of replies: “Tarrant County University”

 

[LonghornCatholic]

 

[LonghornCatholic]

Wild times we live in.

 

[LonghornCatholic]

 

[theiioftx]

I’m just one fan and one alumni, but when did this become anything more than a reason to kick the other team’s ***? It’s like when someone gives you the finger. If you are looking for a guardian, you don’t belong on our team. Go defend yourself and your brothers.

 

[horninchicago]

I’m just one fan and one alumni, but when did this become anything more than a reason to kick the other team’s ***? It’s like when someone gives you the finger. If you are looking for a guardian, you don’t belong on our team. Go defend yourself and your brothers.

Point of Parliamentary Procedure: You are an alumnus, College boy.




I agree with the rest.

 

[Giovanni Jones]

Meanwhile, Lt. Gov Dan Patrick "wants a new Texas Senate select committee to study the athletic and economic impacts other colleges in the state will face from the University of Texas at Austin’s potential departure from the Big 12 athletic conference"

Texas lawmakers file bill to block UT-Austin from leaving Big 12 for SEC

(Oh by all means, a committee. s/ )

 

[Driver 8]

We better kick some *** if that's where we end up.
Not really worried about kicking Mizzou's ***, but the real football teams.

With our history of conference title success we should dominate the SEC as well