Trump!!!

Let's say, just for the sake of argument, that Trump is elected, and once in office, he says, "You know, it's not really feasible to stop Muslim immigration, so, therefore, since I still believe we have a problem that we do not know, right now, how to solve, I am temporarily halting immigration to the US altogether." Please explain how that is so awful for the US?
 
Phil Elliott said:
Let's say, just for the sake of argument, that Trump is elected, and once in office, he says, "You know, it's not really feasible to stop Muslim immigration, so, therefore, since I still believe we have a problem that we do not know, right now, how to solve, I am temporarily halting immigration to the US altogether." Please explain how that is so awful for the US?
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As someone that has worked for multiple multi-national corporations in the tech sector that would have a demonstrable economic and innovation impact.
 
Going to the Trump rally in the Woodlands on Friday.

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The Muslim ban is so moronic that it shouldn't be discussed as a serious proposal for a very simple reason. It's impossible to objectively verify someone's religion, and it's far too easy to fake someone's religion. Does anyone really think a Muslim immigrant who intends to do harm is going to tell immigration officials that he's a Muslim if he knows that it's going to keep him out of the US?

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To preempt the accusation, nobody is promoting open borders.
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You may not be, but Hillary Clinton is damn close. She has pledged to stop all deportations except for terrorists and violent criminals. Other than saying you won't even deport terrorists and violent criminals, it's as open borders as it gets.

It's also a flagrant violation of the oath of office and should get her impeached if she actually does it.
 
Phil Elliott said:
Let's say, just for the sake of argument, that Trump is elected, and once in office, he says, "You know, it's not really feasible to stop Muslim immigration, so, therefore, since I still believe we have a problem that we do not know, right now, how to solve, I am temporarily halting immigration to the US altogether." Please explain how that is so awful for the US?
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Exactly!!! When did we stop making Americans safety a priority.
 
New poll out from CBS. This poll was conducted before the Orlando terrorist attack.

With Gary Johnson added to the poll it's Clinton 39, Trump 32 and Johnson 11.

The most interesting thing in this poll is that Trump and Clinton are both seen as untrustworthy by more than 2/3rds of the country. The other thing working against Trump is that he has a major gap in the "good judgment" and "prepared for the job of POTUS" categories vs. Clinton.


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The most interesting thing in this poll is that Trump and Clinton are both seen as untrustworthy by more than 2/3rds of the country.
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A bit scary that a full 1/3rd of the country thinks one of those people IS trustworthy....

To preempt the accusation, nobody is promoting open borders.
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But some are effectively very close to that.

Let's work to improve those rather than saying temporarily halt all travel and immigration because the issues that you present
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Agreed.

Again, that's only true if I would vote for Trump over Clinton if forced. At this point, I wouldn't. Accordingly, a Hillary supporter could just as easily argue that not voting or voting but not voting for Hillary is effectively voting for Trump.
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Exactly.

However, a Trump victory puts the entire conservative ideology into exile. We won't have a conservative party anymore, and that would truly be catastrophic.
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We already don't, in many ways.

The Dems have a brand which makes people feel good about themselves because they are so caring. It's not really that way in actual practice, but that doesn't matter, it's about the brand and what it stands for. Being liberal means you care more than the other guy, and that sells.The GOP has not had a feel-good brand since Reagan (The City On A Hill and such). Trump has brought a brand (Make America Great Again) that people can feel good about and it is working for him.
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Pretty good summary.
 
Trump is saying a temporary halt on people from those countries that ISIS has a foothold. I am sure he has said muslem, but the plan is to put safeguards into place with stricter screening and background checks for people from those countries like Syria, Libya, Iraq, Iran etc......jeez people just keep making **** up......
 
Statalyzer said:
To preempt the accusation, nobody is promoting open borders.
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But some are effectively very close to that......
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I dont know who you were quoting there, but Obama's Secretary of State just told grads in a commencement speech that the ‘borderless world' is coming and that they had better accept it
FF to ~ 1:06 if it doesnt do it automatically

 
majorwhiteapples said:
Trump is saying a temporary halt on people from those countries that ISIS has a foothold. I am sure he has said muslem, but the plan is to put safeguards into place with stricter screening and background checks for people from those countries like Syria, Libya, Iraq, Iran etc......jeez people just keep making **** up......
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Making **** up? You do realize that Trump's proposal has changed and continues to change. Only last week did he update his "temporarily halt all muslim travel" to the US to "temporarily halt all immigration from countries who are involved in terrorism" (paraphrased). Blame Trump for his evolving language.

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More from the GucciferII hack of the DNC -- this one shows DNC plants its own stories in the media

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You don't think the Republicans do this with favorable media to them? Alas, media today has a symbiotic relationship to politicians and political parties.
 
Joe Fan said:
I dont know who you were quoting there, but Obama's Secretary of State just told grads in a commencement speech that the ‘borderless world' is coming and that they had better accept it
FF to ~ 1:06 if it doesnt do it automatically

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Context matters. Borderless world was in relation to technology. The example Kerry used was that a wall doesn't keep ISIS from reaching into Florida and radicalizing a would-be terrorist. Do you disagree? Based on the clip, "borderless" was not a reference to immigration.
 
Mr. Deez said:
Make Mexico Spain again.
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What does the Native American say?
The Spanish never actually took Comanche territory. They tried to for awhile, but then just gave up -- conceding it.



And what about the buffalo? Do they also get to vote?
 
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Joe Fan said:
What does the Native American say?
The Spanish never actually took Comanche territory. They tried to for awhile, but then just gave up -- conceding it.



And what about the buffalo? Do they also get to vote?
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Of course the buffalo get to vote. What kind of insensitive prick are you??? lol
 
AIM (American Indian Movement) really messed up by not adopting the apparently effective "Make America Great Again" motto.

Also, since the northwest was briefly controlled by Russia, I expect at some point we'll get a "Make America Russian Again" from Putin.
 
About 10,000 people in line for woodlands rally. I started at 4:15 pm about 2000 ft from entrance.
 
It's like you're trying to get tickets to a Justin Bieber concert but with rednecks instead of with 14 year old girls.
 
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