The Irate 8 - What do hope for them?

Chop said:
John Kurtz and SI are reporting that — by next week — invitations and applications could be sent by the Big 12 to:

1. BYU
2. Cincinnati
3. Houston
4. UCF

It is unclear whether BYU will get a full, or football only, invite. Meanwhile, Andre Ware has gone delusional, and is advocating UH hold out for a PAC invite. :smokin:

Conspiracy theories are floating around that ESPN will blow up any deal and destroy the Big 12.
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I keep seeing this being reported, but I've seen nothing on these schools actual interest level in joining the conference. Has anyone seen any interest in these teams joining the Big 12? We assume invites wouldn't go out without interest, but with bowel movement in charge it wouldn't surprise me if they all say no.
 
Sounds like it’s getting real close to being a done deal.

Houston - plant the conference flag in the South’s biggest city
BYU - massive nationwide fanbase. Lots of folks seem to really hate them.
Cincinnati - Midwest exposure. Good for trolling Buckeyes. Good recruiting state.
UCF - Florida exposure. Great recruiting state. Enormous school.

Still not clear (to me) whether BYU is joining on a football only basis.
 
Ha! As 365 Sports pointed out:

Maybe now we’ll see the “Landry’s Big 12 Championship Game.”

(better put it on your calendar, Sabre…)
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Could be enjoying some brewskis with that delightful spinach artichoke dip they serve…
 
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Chop said:
Ha! As 365 Sports pointed out:

Maybe now we’ll see the “Landry’s Big 12 Championship Game.”

(better put it on your calendar, Sabre…)
:beertoast:
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Could be enjoying some brewskis with that delightful spinach artichoke dip they serve…
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And the Joe's Crab Shack bottom feeders game between Kansas and the loser of the UH TTU game.
 
Chop said:
Well, if there’s one thing Houston Cougar fans are known for, it’s class.

Jenkins was the perfect match with that program.
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I suspect TTU is ready for the red tag on the away team section trick. But with no one in the stands running the goal post into the opposing team's section won't be that dramatic.
 
Chop said:
that delightful spinach artichoke dip they serve…
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Chop,

I hope that was TIC. If not, I'm sorry that you have never experienced decent food or even Golden Corral, much less the finer cuisine of NOLA & SFO.

If you expect me to believe you got even an edible meal at one of his restaurants, all credibility is out the window.

:beertoast:
 
Tillman does a good job at his restaurants except hire experienced servers and cook staff. He has to save money somewhere and that is where it goes.
 
mchammer said:
Tillman does a good job at his restaurants except hire experienced servers and cook staff. He has to save money somewhere and that is where it goes.
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He has been phenomenally successful running casual sit down dining restaurants profitably—something that’s difficult to do. I read somewhere he is the only living billionaire by way of casual sit down dining restaurants. I know he’s a lightning rod of controversy, and some on these boards really don’t like his restaurants. That’s good for a few tongue-in-cheek laughs here from time-to-time. :beertoast:

Seriously though, his philanthropy is to be applauded—even if UH may be the biggest beneficiary. He’s also done great things for Galveston. Kudos for that.
 
His mother's family are great people, and I count some of them among my friends. His grandfather was one of the most interesting people I ever encountered. Unfortunately, you only got a few minutes conversation with Mr Falgout. He sent a lot of time in Costa Rica with his friends Ben Jack Cage & Robert Vesco.

Chop said:
running casual sit down dining restaurants profitably
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Which word does not belong?

Glad you like him. Hope you get to meet him some day.
 
Vol Horn 4 Life said:
I keep seeing this being reported, but I've seen nothing on these schools actual interest level in joining the conference. Has anyone seen any interest in these teams joining the Big 12? We assume invites wouldn't go out without interest, but with bowel movement in charge it wouldn't surprise me if they all say no.
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I found this from Deseret News:

"As was reported last week would take place, Yahoo’s Pete Thamel reported Monday that the presidents of the Big 12 Conference schools met Monday to discuss the “impending applications” of BYU, UCF, Cincinnati and Houston to the conference.

"According to Thamel, no formal votes about adding those schools was taken, as it was “more of an informational meeting.” That said, things are expected to continue to move quickly. Thamel reported that applications are expected by Wednesday, and a formal vote will likely take place on Friday.

"Thamel quoted a source as saying, “We’re heading toward adding four teams in the next short period of time.”

"As far as the timeline for the four schools to start competing in the Big 12, Thamel reported that it will likely be in 2023, meaning two more seasons of 10 teams in the conference, then two seasons with 14 before Texas and Oklahoma depart for the SEC after the 2024 season, when the Big 12’s TV deal expires."

LINK:
Big 12 presidents reportedly met Monday, things still on track to add 4 schools quickly
 
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Why would they act so quickly. If there was a brain cell in Las Colinas, they need to sit down with the TV people to see what the $$$ are with and without the addition. Since none of the four bring any TV sets and following (other than BYU, whose fans will watch on TV, but not attend) If the eight can get $25 million each for TV versus getting $18 million when split 12 ways, why do it? Ticket sales? NO! Travel income? NO! Why do it other than give up $$$.
 
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Why would they act so quickly. If there was a brain cell in Las Colinas, they need to sit down with the TV people to see what the $$$ are with and without the addition. Since none of the four bring any TV sets and following (other than BYU, whose fans will watch on TV, but not attend) If the eight can get $25 million each for TV versus getting $18 million when split 12 ways, why do it? Ticket sales? NO! Travel income? NO! Why do it other than give up $$$.
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The biggest threat to survival of the Big 12 was having it's "best of the rest" poached ny the AAC. Attack by taking the AAC's top teams is survival defense that makes sense.
 
Crockett

I disagree. Taking teams that can't average 20,000 at home, have zero TV appeal, have no following, and don't travel does NOTHING. Who do they think is going to poach them? Southland, WAC, BigSky? It's the Big XII or shuffle the deck on the "who cares conference".
 
SabreHorn said:
Crockett

I disagree. Taking teams that can't average 20,000 at home, have zero TV appeal, have no following, and don't travel does NOTHING. Who do they think is going to poach them? Southland, WAC, BigSky? It's the Big XII or shuffle the deck on the "who cares conference".
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Would I prefer that to the SEC? Nah, but at least 3 of the invitees would up average attendance and TV appeal of the Irate 8.
 
I believe it was Hoss Brock, the late director of the Cotton Bowl Classic, accidently getting caught on a hot mic, about getting stuck having to invite BYU and it's following to Dallas: "Oh yeah, they all show up. With a $20 bill and the Ten Commandments. And they don't break either one".

Not sure if this was before or after he commented that all of the Houston fans that would come up for the game would eat at 7-11.

You youngsters missed a lot.

:cowrose::texasflag:
 
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Hoss actually said half of Houston's fans ate at 7-11, while the other half was robbing them.

Hoss made The Cotton Bowl the most important when he convinced ND to break their policy and go to the 1970 Cotton Bowl. Hoss also killed the Cotton Bowl by trying to undercut the proposed championship rotation causing the Cotton Bowl to be left out.
 
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