supreme court decisions of late

We must be cousins. This validates tribal sovereignty. I support that. The law was clear. The downside and the only real argument that the state made was that putting the toothpaste back into the tube that's been out for well over a century is impossible. "At the end of the Trail of Tears was a promise."

I think this is analogous to the famous, "Facts on the ground" used by Israel and others to justify no right of return for the Palestinians. You load up the facts on the ground and nothing else fits.
 
I'm Creek and Liz Warren level Cherokee (in my mom's narrative but not documented as they moved to Tennessee and then to Beaumont before "removal" and moved to Spur after the 1900 hurricane).
 
As I understand it this ruling applies to how and where crimes are tried. I think I would rather take my chances in a US court than a tribal one
 
We must be cousins. This validates tribal sovereignty. I support that. The law was clear. The downside and the only real argument that the state made was that putting the toothpaste back into the tube that's been out for well over a century is impossible. "At the end of the Trail of Tears was a promise."

That does bring up the issue that we dont really want Oklahoma
Nobody does
 
LOL, I think this means the court majority for this decision is racist

 
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The 5 tribes were mixed in holding slavery. Some did some didn't. Some sides with the Union some didn't. Coulter is telling half truths.
 
Okay we can. Why don't we? It isn't because we are lazy or careless.

Because we're lazy and careless. Yes, those are the reasons.

How would a voter know which candidate would do the "right" thing when in office?

The same way they would with any other politician. They would find out what that politician supports and then pay attention to what he does.

What is the "right" thing to improve schools.

The list is too long to get into that here, and that isn't the point.

Will teacher's unions allow that?

Who cares what they'll "allow?" Elect politicians who will say "No" to them and write the laws not to favor them. They have no power to allow or disallow anything.

Do we have any way to force administrators to do the opposite of what teacher's unions want?

Yes. Pass the laws that do the opposite of what they want, and the administrators won't have a choice.

Do you know what school administers are trained to do?

Yes I do. I'm married to one.

But we get to vote for school board members. If you don't go through the system or get certificates you either won't be allowed to run or you will be buried by newspapers and other educators who want to keep status quo.

You don't have to be certified to be a school board member. Plenty of school board members are local business owners. They aren't certified in anything.

This is part of the problem. Young adults and parents with grown children shouldn't be voting on how other peoples' children are educated. They sure as hell shouldn't be paying for it.

I agree, but we've chosen to have public schools. We're 1 percenters.

Show me what new politicians will do that and I will vote for them. The problem is even those who promise to cut taxes or change the system to make it freer, don't follow through when they are in power. The pressure is too strong to sell out for a vast majority.

Vote for politicians endorsed by Empower Texas.

But I said voter influence is secondary not the Fed.
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This is insanity.

My point is that the Fed is the tool that allows the FedGov to do want they want.

No, it isn't. Congress ultimately has the power to set monetary and banking policy. It delegated that power to the Fed, which does its bidding. If the Fed went away, Congress would do what the Fed currently does because we (the public) would want it to.

Yes Congress can repeal the Fed and balance the budget and cut spending. My issue is that I can't find any politician who will even talk seriously about that.

That's because your fellow citizens don't want them to.

Or we could have schools that are held accountable through the market mechanism. That would be a much better system.

I agree. However, we're a tiny minority. We don't decide elections.

Who is we?

"We" is the people who elect the politicians who pass the laws and appropriate the money to create and operate public schools.

Name me a politician who has even TALKED about getting rid of the Dept of Education?

Almost every Republican congressional leader in the 1990s. They even tried to do it but failed. Why? Because the public rejected that effort at the ballot box. See the 1996 election.

State Legislators accept the money because based on the system we have they can't fund the schools without it.

Yes, they can. Until the '60s they basically did. Even now, the federal government only pitches in about 9 percent of the money. If we really wanted to get out from under the federal mandates, we could do it. A small hike in the sales tax would cover it even if we didn't want to cut spending. But we don't want to do that. It's our choice.

But did state legislators ask the federal government to create the DOE and send their money back to them? No. That scheme as far as I know was forced on them.

No, it was never forced on them and still isn't. They can turn down the money. And no, the states didn't have much of a problem with it when the federal programs were created (which didn't come with the DoE but with the ESEA passed earlier). State legislatures generally don't turn down money. Besides, it gives them an easy boogie man as you're illustrating.
 
1. What's a freedom pouch?

It's a type of man-kini stereotypically worn by well-built men (especially but not always gay men). Basically it's just a waistband and a small pouch to hold the equipment.

2. Why not a Justice that's from UT law? It's highly thought of, no?

I'd be ok with that. We've had one UT alumnus. It was Justice Tom Clark (the father of the wingnut former AG Ramsey Clark). He wasn't a particularly respected Justice by either side.

And I have no special love for UT Law School. I didn't go there. I was the wrong color, so I got wait-listed. By the time they got to me, I had already gotten into Baylor, so **** 'em. I don't have any special love for Baylor either. All they did was give me what I paid for just like Walmart does.

3. I did like that McGirt ruling saying that about 1/2 of Oklahoma is still Indian Country.

4. Looking forward to seeing Trump's taxes.

Since I'm in the middle of a move, I haven't had a chance to read the decisions, but any case that screws with Oklahoma is pretty much ok with me.

As for the Trump case, I haven't read it. However, I think his tax returns should be treated the same as anyone else's tax returns. They should be just as hard and just as easy to get them.
 
It's a type of man-kini stereotypically worn by well-built men (especially but not always gay men). Basically it's just a waistband and a small pouch to hold the equipment.
Oh, you mean a banana hammock. Like Barry, I don't think I had ever heard the term freedom pouch.
 
What kind of sad empty life does someone live who would actually take the time to organize and start a petition for a bar in Stillwater Ok?

Bubba was that you?
 
What kind of sad empty life does someone live who would actually take the time to organize and start a petition for a bar in Stillwater Ok?

Bubba was that you?

It's a religious thing for them. If you look at it that way, it makes a lot more sense.
 
What kind of sad empty life does someone live who would actually take the time to organize and start a petition for a bar in Stillwater Ok?

As long as they don't mess with Shortcakes Diner, I am good.
 
Supreme Court denies NCAA request on athlete benefits
"Supreme Court Justice Elena Kagan on Tuesday denied the NCAA’s request for a stay of an injunction that will end association-wide limits on education-related benefits that college athletes can receive.

Barring the NCAA’s ability to convince U.S. District Judge Claudia Wilken to change the injunction’s effective date, Kagan’s ruling sets the stage for at least one recruiting cycle in which schools will be able to decide on a conference-level basis whether to allow offers to football, men’s basketball and/or women’s basketball players that go beyond covering the full cost of attending school.

Wilken issued the injunction in March 2019, when she ruled that that the NCAA's limits on what Bowl Subdivision football players and Division I men's and women’s basketball players can receive for playing sports "unreasonably restrain trade" in violation of antitrust laws. The case was brought on behalf of plaintiffs led by former West Virginia football player Shawne Alston...."
 
I am just noticing this one - a nice surprise
Kavanaugh/SCOTUS just dropped a big turd on George Soros. Organizations affiliated with Soros’ Open Society lack protection under the 1st Amendment. And they can be treated as international threats as this impacts supporters in the US and abroad. So typical of Soros isnt it? He hates the US but loves to hide behind the Constitution to do his dirty work.

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https://www.supremecourt.gov/opinions/19pdf/19-177_b97c.pdf
 
I just like being reminded of this
"As a matter of American constitutional law, foreign citizens outside U. S. territory do not possess rights under the U. S. Constitution"

But JF explain what this ruling means please
 
I don’t know where you get your ****, @Joe Fan, but it sure is creative!! Thanks for the good laugh.

This case had absolutely nothing to do with whether the US Government can treat Soros’s organization, AOSI, as an “international threat”. It was a free-speech case, and your “dropped a big turd on Soros” analysis is silly.

For starters, AOSI was just one of several plaintiffs in the case. Another plaintiff was World Vision International, an evangelical-Christian relief organization. Are they also anti-American and an international threat? Did the Supreme Court also drop a turd on them?

For those curious about the case itself, as opposed to @Joe Fan's partisan spin -- The issue was whether the US Government can require US charities’ foreign affiliates to make certain public statements as a precondition to receiving AIDS-relief funding. Most notably, the law required relief agencies to make a public statement against prostitution, and to take no action inconsistent with that statement. The plaintiff agencies, liberal and conservative alike, were concerned that this requirement would undermine their ability to fight the spread of AIDS within the prostitution industry.

AOSI’s position was supported by amicus briefs from numerous conservative organizations, including the Adventist Development and Relief Agency International; the Cato Institute; and the Washington Legal Foundation. I find it really hard to believe that those organizations would support Soros in a position that was anti-American.

Indeed, to the contrary, the amici raised very valid concerns about other mandatory-speech requirements that could be imposed in the future. For example, a future law could condition Federal funding for overseas charitable work on issuance of a statement supporting abortion rights. Under the decision @Joe Fan is praising, that requirement would be permissible.
 
I don’t know where you get your ****, @Joe Fan, but it sure is creative!! Thanks for the good laugh.

This case had absolutely nothing to do with whether the US Government can treat Soros’s organization, AOSI, as an “international threat”. It was a free-speech case, and your “dropped a big turd on Soros” analysis is silly.

For starters, AOSI was just one of several plaintiffs in the case. Another plaintiff was World Vision International, an evangelical-Christian relief organization. Are they also anti-American and an international threat? Did the Supreme Court also drop a turd on them?

For those curious about the case itself, as opposed to @Joe Fan's partisan spin -- The issue was whether the US Government can require US charities’ foreign affiliates to make certain public statements as a precondition to receiving AIDS-relief funding. Most notably, the law required relief agencies to make a public statement against prostitution, and to take no action inconsistent with that statement. The plaintiff agencies, liberal and conservative alike, were concerned that this requirement would undermine their ability to fight the spread of AIDS within the prostitution industry.

AOSI’s position was supported by amicus briefs from numerous conservative organizations, including the Adventist Development and Relief Agency International; the Cato Institute; and the Washington Legal Foundation. I find it really hard to believe that those organizations would support Soros in a position that was anti-American.

Indeed, to the contrary, the amici raised very valid concerns about other mandatory-speech requirements that could be imposed in the future. For example, a future law could condition Federal funding for overseas charitable work on issuance of a statement supporting abortion rights. Under the decision @Joe Fan is praising, that requirement would be permissible.

Anyone who receives money from Soros or a Soros group should register under FARA
And, if they dont, there is now precedent for them to be charged
 
Brilliant. The youth of today, but to be honest I thought I detected her about to grin at one point and then caught herself.
 
Can you believe the Court liberals and Roberts disagree with this?

"Government is not free to disregard the First Amendment in times of crisis."
-- Justice Gorsuch

Thanks goodness HRC did not get those picks
 
Can you believe the Court liberals and Roberts disagree with this?

"Government is not free to disregard the First Amendment in times of crisis."
-- Justice Gorsuch

Thanks goodness HRC did not get those picks

During the time of the implementation of the Patriot Act, Liberals were fond of this quote:

"Those who would give up liberty for security deserve neither."

Times have changed...
 
During the time of the implementation of the Patriot Act, Liberals were fond of this quote:
"Those who would give up liberty for security deserve neither."
Times have changed...

They want what they want and they want it now
They lack foresight and dont really seem to care what their actions today might mean in the future. The blueprint is simple, get power immediately (by any means), worry about everything else later
 

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