Senior Night: Texas vs ISU

[Moooooo]

Let's kick the tires on Vic Schaefer.

"Loyal" longhorn? Okay.

FYI -- Schaefer is making double Coach Aston's salary. He's not leaving Starkville.

 

[Moooooo]

The injuries we've had are no excuse for this season's mediocrity. Pretty much all teams deal with injuries... just ask defending National Champion Notre Dame.

Do you have a second example? Most rational people would say Notre Dame was far and away the exception, not the rule.

 

[brnkj]

Thank you. Just continue your obsession with thinking Texas is going to fire Karen and constantly talking about what you THINK is going on in players minds.

I don't THINK anything about whether KA is going to be hired or fired. I said she's NOT THE ANSWER AND NEVER WILL BE. Whether she's retained for however long or not will depend on CdC... not any of us. All we can do is hope for the best (whatever that is). Meanwhile we'll all look forward to your preeminent expertise, and allow it to reign supreme in your head.

 

[brnkj]

Do you have a second example? Most rationale people would say Notre Dame was far and away the exception, not the rule.

Actually all we have to do is look a few miles to the north when last year Baylor lost Wallace and was down to eight players, yet they still swept us three times in spite of the fact we had more All-Americans (10) than they had available players. How's THAT for the perfect additional example?

 

[JoeDallas]

The arguing goes on … I don't agree that we have obviously superior players to other Big 12 teams. Our players have their strengths, but we are low on pure shooters. Danni can be bit streaky, but is a very good three point shooter. Sug is normally very good in the mid-range game, but has been a little off lately. Otherwise, who is a great shooter on our team? Joyner has spectacular abilities, but is not a great shooter, as we all know. I hope we strengthen our shooting next year. I'm looking forward to see what Celeste and the Australians bring.

 

[kurupt]

I don't THINK anything about whether KA is going to be hired or fired. I said she's NOT THE ANSWER AND NEVER WILL BE. Whether she's retained for however long or not will depend on CdC... not any of us. All we can do is hope for the best (whatever that is). Meanwhile we'll all look forward to your preeminent expertise, and allow it to reign supreme in your head.

I admire the fact you look forward to my expertise but I THINK it would be wise if you channeled your obsession with firing Karen. She’s not going anywhere anytime soon unless she chooses to. But please by all means continue to play psychic and read the players minds and also cry about how she allegedly treated you after a game.

 

[brnkj]

I admire the fact you look forward to my expertise but I THINK it would be wise if you channeled your obsession with firing Karen. She’s not going anywhere anytime soon unless she chooses to. But please by all means continue to play psychic and read the players minds and also cry about how she allegedly treated you after a game.

There you go again letting your superiority get in the way of facts. I never said she treated me ANY type of way, because I wasn't around her to receive any type of treatment. What I did say, however, is that I stood back and observed her treatment of her loyal traveling fans. The specifics I won't bother repeating again... just setting the record straight for you. You're the one who rides the fence whining and criticizing her, yet you try to minimize anyone else's observations in order to make yours seem so important and qualified... clearly you have an inferiority complex. Poor thing.

 

[kurupt]

There you go again letting your superiority get in the way of facts. I never said she treated me ANY type of way, because I wasn't around her to receive any type of treatment. What I did say, however, is that I stood back and observed her treatment of her loyal traveling fans. The specifics I won't bother repeating again... just setting the record straight for you. You're the one who rides the fence whining and criticizing her, yet you try to minimize anyone else's observations in order to make yours seem so important and qualified... clearly you have an inferiority complex. Poor thing.

Stop projecting, I don’t ride any fences. My position on Coach Aston is very clear. I’m just not someone that talks about nonsense that has absolutely nothing to do with her coaching like you. It’s become obvious to everyone on the board that you have an agenda regarding her that lame story and saying that the players have given up on her when you don’t know are great examples. Saying the players have quit on a coach is the worst thing that you can say about that coach. Did Karen not give your kid the minutes you wanted her to get?

 

[brnkj]

Stop projecting, I don’t ride any fences. My position on Coach Aston is very clear. I’m just not someone that talks about nonsense that has absolutely nothing to do with her coaching like you. It’s become obvious to everyone on the board that you have an agenda regarding her that lame story and saying that the players have given up on her when you don’t know are great examples. Saying the players have quit on a coach is the worst thing that you can say about that coach. Did Karen not give your kid the minutes you wanted her to get?

My kid isn't female, so once again the bottom falls out of your "expert" contribution. Congrats.

 

[kurupt]

My kid isn't female, so once again the bottom falls out of your "expert" contribution. Congrats.

Could of fooled me. Hopefully he inherited his mother’s character traits and not yours.

 

[brnkj]

Could of fooled me. Hopefully he inherited his mother’s character traits and not yours.

You should probably worry more about your own narcissistic personality flaws and shortcomings.

 

[kurupt]

You should probably worry more about your own narcissistic personality flaws and shortcomings.

There you go projecting again. The guy that’s literally gotten into it with almost every person on this board. But I’m going to take my foot off your neck and let you make it.

 

[brnkj]

There you go projecting again. The guy that’s literally gotten into it with almost every person on this board. But I’m going to take my foot off your neck and let you make it.

Yeah yeah yeah...blah blah blah. Thanks for letting me "make it," because I was beginning to feel REALLY frightened.

There you go again with false accounts. For the record there are plenty on here with whom I've had no problem, it's actually only been the same few repeatedly who ATTACK others' opinions when they don't align with their own.

If not being a COWARD, speaking my mind, and standing up to the attacks on my opinions is your definition of narcissism... I guess I'll just to wear that shoe because it truly fits. I'll refrain from saying which one fits you.

 

[Moooooo]

Actually all we have to do is look a few miles to the north when last year Baylor lost Wallace and was down to eight players, yet they still swept us three times in spite of the fact we had more All-Americans (10) than they had available players. How's THAT for the perfect additional example?

Is that so? Being the Mulkey lover that you are, you should know that Baylor didn't lose Wallace until the last game or two in the regular season; and, as a #2 seed, got bounced in the round of 16 by a #6 Oregon State; same round as us. Another year where Baylor didn't live up to their tournament seed.

 

[kurupt]

Yeah yeah yeah...blah blah blah. Thanks for letting me "make it," because I was beginning to feel REALLY frightened.

There you go again with false accounts. For the record there are plenty on here with whom I've had no problem, it's actually only been the same few repeatedly who ATTACK others' opinions when they don't align with their own.

If not being a COWARD, speaking my mind, and standing up to the attacks on my opinions is your definition of narcissism... I guess I'll just to wear that shoe because it truly fits. I'll refrain from saying which one fits you.

I’m trying to let you make it but you just can’t help yourself. You always have to get the last word but I’m the narcissist with character flaws. If a person has gotten into it with all most every person on the board then that person MIGHT be the problem. And you can have the last word.

 

[brnkj]

I’m trying to let you make it but you just can’t help yourself. You always have to get the last word but I’m the narcissist with character flaws. If a person has gotten into it with all most every person on the board then that person MIGHT be the problem. And you can have the last word.

 

[kurupt]

I’m trying to let you make it but you just can’t help yourself. You always have to get the last word but I’m the narcissist with character flaws. If a person has gotten into it with all most every person on the board then that person MIGHT be the problem. And you can have the last word.

 

[brnkj]

Is that so? Being the Mulkey lover that you are, you should know that Baylor didn't lose Wallace until the last game or two in the regular season; and, as a #2 seed, got bounced in the round of 16 by a #6 Oregon State; same round as us. Another year where Baylor didn't live up to their tournament seed.

Check KA's GROSSLY LOPSIDED LOSING RECORD against Mulkey.. when she overcomes that then get back to me. Mulkey OWNS her and so will the others in the conference if CdC keeps her around long enough.

 

[brnkj]

Where's the middle finger emoji when you need it?

 

[kurupt]

Where's the middle finger emoji when you need it?

I hope your son is okay.

 

[hoopsalot]

About the game.

At the game, following the Baylor game, I was dismayed. The next morning, oddly, I was more sanquine. I remembered more what a great player Carleton is. At the very end of the game, ISU put the ball in her hands before mid-court, rather than the hands of the point guard Middleton, a capable player herself. ISU really got back on defense each and every possession so that the Longhorns faced a tall forest in front of the basket.

Scoring by quarters:

1 2 3 4 T
ISU 27 15 12 28 82
TEX 10 13 17 33 73


The box score seems to show one incredibly, unbelievably bad quarter. Down 17 after 10 minutes of play! After that, the team did adjust and try hard to close the gap. The deficit was too much to recover from against a good team with one of the best players in womens college basketball today; a mature, savvy, skilled point guard; and a number of players with beautiful 3-point shots. Next year,ISU will return most of its players next and bring in another good class. But, the team loses player of the year candidate Carleton, around whom the team is built, and true point guard Middleton. It will be interesting to see if ISU can stay in the top quartile of the Big 12 for a stretch. ​

 

[loyallonghorn]

Overall, there's too much Baylor and Kim Mulkey bashing on this board. I appreciate the level of domination they've had over the Big 12 because it sets a high bar for all, including Texas and Karen Aston to strive and compete.

Coach Aston has proven that she can recruit at the highest level, but she has not proven she can coach elite talent, and getting the most out of the players, putting them in a position to emphasize their strengths. In short, her teams have not matched the sum of their talents.

This stands in stark contrast to Baylor's domination with comparable talent. But unlike Baylor, Texas continues to lose in conference to teams they shouldn't be losing to, like Iowa State (everyone knows they shoot the 3) and West Virginia (with only 6 or 7 players). On Game Plan with Karen Aston, Coach Aston had said, "It would be disrespectful to other teams in the conference to expect the Longhorns to win by double digits every game" (my paraphrase). I disagree; Baylor is blowing nearly everyone out by 20 points.

I can foresee other coaches using this against her during recruiting season, "If you go to Texas, your talent will be wasted" and it's going to have a spiraling downfall. As one other poster said, we can expect Texas to win one game at the Big 12 tournament and NCAA tournament, each. This is unacceptable. When I see Vic Schaeffer doing what he's done with ZERO McDonald's All-Americans on his rosters (A&M has struggled without him), I can't help but wonder how much success he'd have with a roster full of McDonad's All-Americans coupled with his coaching abilities.

 

[Moooooo]

Check KA's GROSSLY LOPSIDED LOSING RECORD against Mulkey.. when she overcomes that then get back to me. Mulkey OWNS her and so will the others in the conference if CdC keeps her around long enough.

Why do you keep changing the subject? You're the one who brought up injuries at Notre Dame and Baylor. When you have nothing to support a point, you ALWAYS throw out Aston's record against Baylor. We all know that; you bringing it up after a loss to ISU or any other team is insignificant.

Go be a Baylor fan on their message board. You're clearly not supportive of Texas women's basketball, that's for sure. Nobody needs you here, that's for f'n sure.

Guess, what? Coach Aston does NOT earn a Top 16 national salary; she makes $800k. Mulkey is paid Top 5 nationally at like $1.8 million.

Coach A has delivered results higher than her salary rank nationally the last 4 seasons; Mulkey hasn't delivered a Final Four in over 5 seasons. It's great that she beats Texas; it's great that she wins Big 12 titles. But, she is not earning her Top 5 national salary.

Go sniff Mulkey's butt on the Baylor message board where you belong.

 

[Moooooo]

Overall, there's too much Baylor and Kim Mulkey bashing on this board.

Are you serious? This is a Texas message board. Mulkey is trash and has been very disrespectful to our players (like Empress Davenport), coaches, and school any chance she gets, especially when holding a microphone in her hands.

 

[brnkj]

I hope your son is okay.

He's good. Thanks! Go work on yourself, poor little thing...

 

[Moooooo]

When I see Vic Schaeffer doing what he's done with ZERO McDonald's All-Americans on his rosters (A&M has struggled without him), I can't help but wonder how much success he'd have with a roster full of McDonad's All-Americans coupled with his coaching abilities.

Schaefer is the exception, and not the rule. If it were easy to find coaches like him, everyone would be doing it. There aren't many other coaches who can get to the Final Four without at least 2-3 college AP All-Americans (not high school All-Americans), which he's actually had in Victoria Vivians and Tearra McGowen the last 3 seasons.

Do you realize you can't have it both ways as far as another coach coaching the players Coach Aston worked hard to sign? Neither Conradt nor Goestenkors was signing elite players consistently; that's why they are no longer the head coach. A head coach coaches the players they sign (unless they've changed jobs).

No denying Schaefer has had two great seasons finishing as national runner-up; season before that he was Sweet 16. His prior seasons before that at MSU were pretty bad. MSU gave a huge paycheck as a result of his success; we'll see what he does because expectations are now high in Starkville.

 

[Moooooo]

Where's the middle finger emoji when you need it?

Hopefully, you're sitting on it.

 

[brnkj]

Hopefully, you're sitting on it.

Actually, I'd be willing TO BET MONEY that's one of your finer habits... and favorite pastimes.

 

[brnkj]

Cognitive Dissonance is the mental discomfort triggered by a situation in which a person’s belief clashes with new evidence. When confronted with facts that contradict beliefs, ideals, and values, people will find a way to resolve the contradiction to reduce their discomfort.

 

[brnkj]

Why do you keep changing the subject? You're the one who brought up injuries at Notre Dame and Baylor. When you have nothing to support a point, you ALWAYS throw out Aston's record against Baylor. We all know that; you bringing it up after a loss to ISU or any other team is insignificant.

Go be a Baylor fan on their message board. You're clearly not supportive of Texas women's basketball, that's for sure. Nobody needs you here, that's for f'n sure.

Guess, what? Coach Aston does NOT earn a Top 16 national salary; she makes $800k. Mulkey is paid Top 5 nationally at like $1.8 million.

Coach A has delivered results higher than her salary rank nationally the last 4 seasons; Mulkey hasn't delivered a Final Four in over 5 seasons. It's great that she beats Texas; it's great that she wins Big 12 titles. But, she is not earning her Top 5 national salary.

Go sniff Mulkey's butt on the Baylor message board where you belong.

You're the one who asked for another example of teams dealing with and overcoming injuries... so what better one? You didn't like that one so once again you attack in that old angry person way that you do. I'm sorry you're such a bitter old lemon... life must REALLY be miserable for you. And to reiterate... Aston has had it HANDED TO HER by Mulkey and, sadly enough, that's not ever going to change.