Roe is dead

Mr. Deez said:
Be careful. They're not be really rolling back SDP. They're just saying that the Roe Court incorrectly applied the SDP analysis. Sounds nitpicky, but it makes a big difference for the applicability to other SDP cases.
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Sorry, I wasn't clear. I meant the court rolled back Roe, not the entire SDP doctrine.
 
OUBubba said:
The issue is that these are the drivers of the boat on that side of the lake. Believe me, we have issues with our drivers of the boat as well. This "base" won't compromise and would cut off their own appendages to "own the libs".
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Guys like Fuentes are not driving the boat. That's ricockulous.
 
Horn6721 said:
Is this a pretty well known person ( unlike the Fuentes turdwaffle)
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I believe there are some potential AR-15 purchasers who would agree with her, given the hurdles that they have to clear in order to leave the State to make a purchase...never mind the ease of getting an abortion in that same State.
 
Mr. Deez said:
Call me crazy, but murdering a baby should be pretty hard to do.
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I agree. I'm against anything after the first trimester but for rape/incest/not conducive for life/mother's life. I guess I'm using the Bible's guidelines for when life begins and not that of the Christian Nationals using abortion as a wedge for the last 50 years. Otherwise, you'd be able to put down a pregnancy as a dependent. Is that happening?
 
OUBubba said:
I agree. I'm against anything after the first trimester but for rape/incest/not conducive for life/mother's life. I guess I'm using the Bible's guidelines for when life begins and not that of the Christian Nationals using abortion as a wedge for the last 50 years. Otherwise, you'd be able to put down a pregnancy as a dependent. Is that happening?
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pregnancy is certainly counted as life, even amongst most democrats that support RvW. Almost every woman treats the fetus as a baby from the moment she learns she is pregnant. That's how we know most of the female Dem's are disingenuous about not understanding when life begins.

They start taking prenatals. They quit drinking alcohol. They quit smoking. They start to get sonograms. Some start the whole singing and talking to them bit.
 
OUBubba said:
I agree. I'm against anything after the first trimester but for rape/incest/not conducive for life/mother's life. I guess I'm using the Bible's guidelines for when life begins and not that of the Christian Nationals using abortion as a wedge for the last 50 years. Otherwise, you'd be able to put down a pregnancy as a dependent. Is that happening?
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Typical. You all do something radical - abusing judicial power to force your way on an issue and then claim the other side used it as a "wedge issue" because they noticed and had the audacity to resist it.

And you might generally oppose anything after the first trimester, but the people you vote for do not. In fact, when given the by opportunity, they're codifying abortion at all stages, and you're largely silent on the matter.
 
Mr. Deez said:
Typical. You all do something radical - abusing judicial power to force your way on an issue and then claim the other side used it as a "wedge issue" because they noticed and had the audacity to resist it.

And you might generally oppose anything after the first trimester, but the people you vote for do not. In fact, when given the by opportunity, they're codifying abortion at all stages, and you're largely silent on the matter.
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Some are even calling for abortion during the 4th trimester. Absolutely insane.
 
Mr. Deez said:
Typical. You all do something radical - abusing judicial power to force your way on an issue and then claim the other side used it as a "wedge issue" because they noticed and had the audacity to resist it.

And you might generally oppose anything after the first trimester, but the people you vote for do not. In fact, when given the by opportunity, they're codifying abortion at all stages, and you're largely silent on the matter.
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In 2014 that number was estimated at 1.4%. So, that's pretty low.
 
How do Demx feel about the Unborn Victims Act?
Babies in the womb are considered victims when killed in the commision of another crime.
Most states have similar laws including I think Ca
 
ProdigalHorn said:
So it's the frequency for you? What if it were 30 percent? Would you still be against it?
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Is the common perception in the pro-life community that a proportion higher than 1.4% are after the first term? I sure think so. I think if you polled every mental midget celebrating the ruling on their social media accounts they would put the % at 50% or higher.

My point is that I think a certain portion of pregnancies that go south do so after that time frame. Amniocentesis is done between 15-21 weeks. The second trimester start on the 14th. My wife had an amnio done relatively late. You don't know certain things are wrong until that is done at that time. My grandmother had an abortion circa 1948 because they were concerned that fibroids were going to make her pregnancy dangerous to her. I just learned this in the last year from my 80 year old mother.
 
Let’s apply science. A heartbeat? An ultrasound? Look if a female can take a pill the next day to stop a pregnancy, then so be it. But if you are 30 days past a missed period and you are not in danger then no deal.
 
It is clear from all the Demx pols and the Hollywood people who are admitteding proudly hey have had abortions they see it as THEIR right to birth control
Bubba. Where am I wrong?
 
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Let's be clear, as Uncle HO (Joe) likes to say....

BASICALLY, many of the angry left hates themselves. So, many of those unhappy and or America hating people, radical or the careless among them will want to:

"ABORT"/ KILL THEIR CHILDREN or encourage others to abort their children.

I suspect it helps them in a twisted way in their mind to expel anger / rage at their family, the Right, Religion, Society.
 
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theiioftx said:
Let’s apply science. A heartbeat? An ultrasound? Look if a female can take a pill the next day to stop a pregnancy, then so be it. But if you are 30 days past a missed period and you are not in danger then no deal.
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We are very close to agreeance. Much closer than you’d think.

There will be a juvenile raped in the future. She will try to abort her rapists baby. She will be charged for this “crime”. Hell, she might do more time than the rapist. That’s where we are headed.
 
ProdigalHorn said:
And you ducked the question. As usual.
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If 1.4% are the ones that are for a good reason, yeah. Otherwise, I’d like some bumpers around the first trimester. Is that a suitable answer for you to respond like a Tom Herman disciple?

we aren’t getting that because everyone is back in their corner. Libs are at 22 weeks and you guys are at a twinkle in your daddy’s eye. There is a vast middle ground.

The Bible would be more than 22 weeks.
 
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