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p_town_horn said:
Not an expert on this by any means, but I don't think this does anything to the NCAA. California law can allow you to get paid, but the NCAA is not governed by NCAA rules. They can still expel you from their organization for violating amateurism rules.

It's like weed in the NFL. It may be legal in your state, but if it is in your blood the NFL can punish you.
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Or the PAC could secede from the NCAA. If Cali players can get paid (at least through endorsements), I bet their recruiting would be enhanced more than enough to offset not playing for the CF playoff. Then more conferences would join them in no time. Not sure if Stanford would let this happen to the PAC. Interesting times we live in.
 
nashhorn said:
IMHO, this could have an enormous impact on recruiting, in a positive fashion for California I mean.
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The non-California PAC-12 schools would throw the California schools out; and the NCAA would ban any member from playing a California school and can any team from playing a game in California.
 
Chop said:
They need to offer Leach the head coaching job and bring him down the W. Coast from WSU. Open the wallets wide, whatever it takes. Leach could win National Championships there.
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You trying to make me a USC fan? And have me staying up for life-wrecking 11pm starts?
I see your evil plan
 
Horn6721 said:
So Calif schools could only play each other?would there be any tv interest i east of Ca for that?
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We don’t know exactly how this would play out, but I’d expect some other states would join them.

I’m a huge fan of college football, but not of the NCAA organization.
 
Like everything else in Cali-prune-ya it will go to court in SFO, then destroyed In the appeals process. What from the 9th Circuit hasn't been overturned?

LSU and/or Alabama should file suit, watch it go to the 5th Circuit and kick the **** out of those let coast idiots.

What do they hope to gain? USC, UCLA, Oregon, et al have been buying players for years, and still can't win.
 
I do get why there are those on the side of ‘paying’ players but what I do not understand is why the cost of the education they are getting is never considered recompense at all.
 
nashhorn said:
I do get why there are those on the side of ‘paying’ players but what I do not understand is why the cost of the education they are getting is never considered recompense at all.
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Not to mention:

Why don't we pay the band?
Why don't we pay the cheerleaders?
Why don't we pay the pom squad?
Why don't we pay the Silver Spurs?
Why don't we pay the Texas Cowboys?
Why don't we pay APO?

There are nearly 1,000 students who, for no compensation at all, spend as many hours/week as the football team practicing their craft (music, cheerleading, dancing), simply because they want to be a part of the gameday experience. They get to be on the field for a whopping seven minutes, while half the fans are getting a drink or going to the bathroom, and they're never shown on TV. No one will recognize them or know their name. They won't make millions later on. In most cases, it costs money to be a part of their organization.
There are hundreds more students who'd happily do the same, but didn't make the cut at tryouts.

If we paid the football players, we'd also have to pay the basketball team, track team, swim team, every single student-athlete at the university, whether their sport makes a lot of money or not. Texas Athletics makes plenty of money, but many universities' athletic departments already operate in the red. Paying every student-athlete would bankrupt most athletic departments. For those arguing "As long as it doesn't bankrupt my school, I don't care," who would you play?
Most non-football student-athletes get only about 50% of their college expenses paid, as opposed to 100% for football players. And most of them don't even compete in a sport where making millions later on is a possibility. Most Olympic athletes are broke.

Imagine being an incoming freshman and being asked to join a student organization that does something you already like. Then you're told if you do it, you'll get access to state-of-the-art facilities no other student gets to use, you'll be treated like a god on campus, you'll get free tutors, you'll get free health care, and you'll graduate with $0 in debt. Would any freshman argue, "What's in it for me?"
 
Ajo Macho said:
Why don't we pay the band?
Why don't we pay the cheerleaders?
Why don't we pay the pom squad?
Why don't we pay the Silver Spurs?
Why don't we pay the Texas Cowboys?
Why don't we pay APO?
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Perhaps because none of these are the direct cause of $200+ million coming into the athletic department

Ajo Macho said:
Why don't we pay the Silver Spurs?
Why don't we pay the Texas Cowboys?
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Because their families don't need the money

:beertoast:
 
Programs bring in a lot of money but lots of the money goes back into the program FOR the athletes in facilities costs FOR the athletes. The schools groom them to make millions as pros at NO COST. They are totally taken care of from the time they commit until they leave. They do not need to be paid !!!!!!! They are well compensated !!!! Nearly all programs operate in the RED except for the mighty FEW like Texas and a few other power 5 schools. Nobody forces the players to play. They can use the school to forward their journey to pro sports or not.
Much of the money schools get comes from boosters, not anything the players did.
 
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Wellllll...

I bet if our Pom squad/chaps girls published a calendar for sale, and split the proceeds, they’d make themselves a nice chunk of change.

:fire::fire::fire::fire::fire:
 
Ajo Macho said:
Why don't we pay the band?
Why don't we pay the cheerleaders?
Why don't we pay the pom squad?
Why don't we pay the Silver Spurs?
Why don't we pay the Texas Cowboys?
Why don't we pay APO?
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Because they aren't risking life and limb to bring in billions of dollars to the school?
Because nobody tunes in or goes to the game to see "what's his name" holding on to Bevo's harness?

I think the players that have an opportunity to market themselves should be allowed and the money placed in a trust until the student graduates or leaves for the pros.
The school could even charge royalties off this and make even more money.
 
Chop said:
Or the PAC could secede from the NCAA. If Cali players can get paid (at least through endorsements), I bet their recruiting would be enhanced more than enough to offset not playing for the CF playoff. Then more conferences would join them in no time. Not sure if Stanford would let this happen to the PAC. Interesting times we live in.
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Time to get Stanford and USC to the B12 and bring the two AZ schools too for a two division B14. Now B14 has some serious TV market power.
 
Horn6721 said:
moon
would you deduct the cost of attending the school from the endorsement money?
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I don't know.
How much would you charge someone to go out and risk paralysis, death, broken limbs, brain damage, etc.?

I guess you could come up with some sort of cap/percentage that is returned to the school.
Or you could count royalties the school makes off of player marketing as compensation.
 
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