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[bystander]

Serious and shouldn't be taken lightly.

Why younger folks, who have a miniscule risk of dying of covid, HAVE to take the shot is beyond me. Low risk groups don't need the vax

Because their grandparents might have underlying conditions. Younger folks can still be carriers. It's no joke. People with blood cancer in fact have difficulty being immunized. For some reason, the vaccines don't work as well and if they catch COVID then they're possible F'd.

 

[Horn2RunAgain]

Because their grandparents might have underlying conditions. Younger folks can still be carriers. It's no joke. People with blood cancer in fact have difficulty being immunized. For some reason, the vaccines don't work as well and if they catch COVID then they're possible F'd.

So, put the kids at risk b/c I might possibly catch it from them? Not in agreement

My SIL and granddaughter live with us. He's 36, she's 3. i have NO problem with them not risking their health. I'm 65, if the SIL developed issues from the vax how do you think I'd feel?

 

[bystander]

So, put the kids at risk b/c I might possibly catch it from them? Not in agreement

My SIL and granddaughter live with us. He's 36, she's 3. i have NO problem with them not risking their health to benefit ME. I'm 65, if the SIL developed issues from the vax how do you think I'd feel?

It's a life threatening situation for those with underlying conditions. In my view, this is indisputable. I don't know where it says the younger folks are at risk taking the vaccine. There are side effects for everything. What are we seeing from the COVID vaccines?

 

[Seattle Husker]

So, put the kids at risk b/c I might possibly catch it from them? Not in agreement

My SIL and granddaughter live with us. He's 36, she's 3. i have NO problem with them not risking their health to benefit ME. I'm 65, if the SIL developed issues from the vax how do you think I'd feel?

It's not just you but also anyone that they come into contact that isn't vaccinated. It could be that grocery store clerk, a babysitter, a waitress. Heck, even if vaccinated there is still risk of infection.

 

[Horn2RunAgain]

It's not just you but also anyone that they come into contact that isn't vaccinated. It could be that grocery store clerk, a babysitter, a waitress. Heck, even if vaccinated there is still risk of infection.

Yeah screw that younger generation. It's all about us right..? They'll just have to suck it up and deal with heart issues until they die offf

 

[Horn2RunAgain]

IHeck, even if vaccinated there is still risk of infection.

I could have a field day with this one.

 

[Seattle Husker]

Yeah screw that younger generation. It's all about us right..? They'll just have to suck it up and deal with heart issues until they die offf

I'd urge you to read up on the actual impacts. Vaccines have side effects for a small % of recipients. If you think the numbers I posted previously are a major risk then we are at an impasse. I'd suggest your SIL and granddaughter never get any vaccinations. That will most assuredly keep your granddaughter from summer camps, public school, getting to live in a college dorm and any number of opportunities. I just hope she doesn't catch the viruses these vaccines protect against because having the measles is much worse than the vaccination. Catching meningitis is much worse than the side effect of he vaccination. For an other worldly high %, the Covid 19 vaccination is less risky than catching the virus.

I'm just glad there weren't more people like you when the Polio vaccine was introduced. Vaccines have historically been a boon to human civilization. Good luck. I sincerely hope you are fortunate enough not to catch the virus, if you haven't been vaccinated.

My step-father-in-law wasn't so fortunate. 70yrs old and completed an Iron Man Triathlon just 10yrs ago. Covid dropped him to the point that he gave up after 3 months in the hospital.

A close family friend was an All Big 10 OL for Northwestern and an emergency room doctor. Dude was in great shape, ~48yrs old and was hours from dying before pulling out of it and is staring at physical therapy for years to hopefully get back what he lost.

My wife's friend had a 10yr old son that went from catching the virus to death in a week.

These are just the people adjacent to us that were impacted by Covid directly. The virus is a *****. It's what led us to the decision that as soon as our son's were able to get vaccinated they should. It was an easy decision, even in light of the cardiomyopathy investigation. My sister, 42 contracted the virus too. Hives, itching and severe rash lasting weeks, quarantined from her family and job. Still, even after that her family will try to avoid the vaccine. I don't understand. I offered up the data and still she's convinced the virus isn't a big deal. Yes, we both experienced our step-father-in-law wasting away on a ventilator. Well, we couldn't directly because we weren't allowed in the hospital. Part of me wonders if the fact that she couldn't see him suffer impacted her view. Clearly her media consumption shades her perception.

 

[nashhorn]

Hives, itching and severe rash lasting weeks,

Strange Covid symptoms. Really wish to avoid further comment on the topic, we all have a fight to our opinions and can justify them adequately for our own satisfaction.

 

[Seattle Husker]

Strange Covid symptoms. Really wish to avoid further comment on the topic, we all have a fight to our opinions and can justify them adequately for our own satisfaction.

They were to the point that the first few times in the Dr office they didn't test her for Covid but everything else which came back negative. Then she walked into a free testing clinic and tested positive which was later confirmed by a 2nd test at her doctor's office.

Covid hit lot's of people differently. She still has a bit of a skin rash 8 months later.

 

[nashhorn]

Interesting, just like my personal experience with Hydroxychloroquine, goes to show you never can tell (as goes the song).

Her case makes me wonder if she had an ‘asymptotic’ Covid case but another issue caused the hives. As I said, interesting.

 

[Horn2RunAgain]

[QUOTE="Seattle Husker, post: 1838998, member: 2693" If you think the numbers I posted previously are a major risk then we are at an impasse. I'd suggest your SIL and granddaughter never get any vaccinations. That will most assuredly keep your granddaughter from summer camps, public school.[/QUOTE]

My grand daughter is already in a summer camp. The pre school she attends goes thru 12th grade. No vax required

What other nonsense do you want to run my way?

 

[bystander]

Yeah screw that younger generation. It's all about us right..? They'll just have to suck it up and deal with heart issues until they die offf

Or stated another way, screw the people who will die...

 

[Horn2RunAgain]

Or stated another way, screw the people who will die...

It's a choice. If you're compromised, stay home. Stay safe. No one is telling you how to live your life. Don't tell others how to live theirs. Dig it?

There's a world out there that doesn't want to compromise OUR own health. Get used to it. If I'm, 25yo I'm not getting the vax. Plain and simple. Not worth the risk. Have heart issues down the line b/c of a vax?? Possibly die years before your time??Nope, no thx

Too many issues with this vax. Isn't worth it if you're young, or have had the virus and kicked it

 

[bystander]

Can you dig this? If you or anyone in your family contracts COVID would you waive your right to get medical care? You are saying too bad to those who don't like it if you don't get a shot; so can they say too bad if you get sick?

Remember, Covid is not a broken leg. It is a contagious disease that kills people.

 

[Seattle Husker]

My grand daughter is already in a summer camp. The pre school she attends goes thru 12th grade. No vax required

What other nonsense do you want to run my way?

That's fortunate. Let's chat after vaccines are actually approved for all ages.

 

[theiioftx]

It makes zero sense on why people want to force others to get a vaccine. If you get vaccinated, you are safe. Why so worried about someone who isn’t vaccinated?

The vaccine still has not been formally approved by the FDA. There are known side effects and more will likely surface over the years. It makes no sense for a young healthy person to take the risk.

I got the vaccine. It was my choice as a late middle aged male in reasonably good health. I just do not know what health issues I have that are not known at this time. I felt the risk of getting sick was greater than the risk of side effects from the vaccine. Plus I suspected international travel I plan to take will require proof of vaccination.

 

[OUBubba]

My kid is at her second church camp in a row where she had to sign a form well before hand that they they were going to date for the day the left that she "didn't have covid". Two different denominations. I giggled.

Seems like the deaths are most all from people who've not received the vaccines.

A fitting headline: A tale of two societies. 'A tale of two societies': As infections plunge among the vaccinated, the unvaccinated remain at high risk

 

[Horn2RunAgain]

Can you dig this? If you or anyone in your family contracts COVID would you waive your right to get medical care? You are saying too bad to those who don't like it if you don't get a shot; so can they say too bad if you get sick?

Remember, Covid is not a broken leg. It is a contagious disease that kills people.

My entire household caught covid. No big deal, here.

Your comment about waiving my right to medical attention is a non starter. I can get medical help if I CHOOSE. And so can you.

It's all about choice. My choice is and was to live my life. If others want to shelter in place, or triple mask, cool. Your choice

 

[bystander]

My entire household caught covid. No big deal, here.

Your comment about waiving my right to medical attention is a non starter. I can get medical help if I CHOOSE. And so can you.

It's all about choice. My choice is and was to live my life. If others want to shelter in place, or triple mask, cool. Your choice

My feeling is that those who like their freedoms should live it which includes the consequences. I was just testing the theory of going your own way and applied the possible consequence to it.

 

[OUBubba]

The sad thing of this is how the rates vary by state almost solely based on their adherence to the big orange vaccinated man.

 

[Seattle Husker]

My feeling is that those who like their freedoms should live it which includes the consequences. I was just testing the theory of going your own way and applied the possible consequence to it.

It's a socialized risk, no different than smokers, heavy drinkers or obesity due to poor diet/inactivity. Make you OWN choices until one needs help but make sure that insurance premium or medicare doesn't charge extra because of those risk factors.

If you choose a riskier lifestyle due to health choices you lose any credibility to complain about the costs of healthcare.

 

[bystander]

It's a socialized risk, no different than smokers, heavy drinkers or obesity due to poor diet/inactivity. Make you OWN choices until one needs help but make sure that insurance premium or medicare doesn't charge extra because of those risk factors.

If you choose a riskier lifestyle due to health choices you lose any credibility to complain about the costs of healthcare.

You touched on what I was thinking. The idea that you can do whatever you want, jump on board the hospital ship to be sailed to good health again and ask that someone else pay for the cruise doesn't sit well with me.

 

[Seattle Husker]

Missouri Law Enforcement No Longer Required To Enforce Federal Gun Laws

Missouri becoming a "sanctuary state" from Federal gun law enforcement. Looking forward to everyone who chastised "sanctuary cities" demonstrating their logical consistency and now levying that criticism at Missouri. Conversely, those on the left that supported "sanctuary cities" must surely support Missouri, right?

Both extremes are crazy.

The DOJ responds as expected.

In a letter obtained by the newswire service, DOJ officials said that the U.S. Constitution’s Supremacy clause outweighed a new state law that bans police from enforcing gun laws

The DOJ argued that the state doesn’t have the authority to prevent their law enforcement from carrying out their duties and to shield citizens and businesses from facing consequences, according to the AP report.

We've seen this rodeo before albeit the R's were leading the charge against D interests (see: Sanctuary cities). With the shoe on the other foot it will be interesting to see how this plays out. I'll laugh if the DOJ threatens to pull federal funding from MO law enforcement activities.

 

[bystander]

The DOJ responds as expected.



We've seen this rodeo before albeit the R's were leading the charge against D interests (see: Sanctuary cities). With the shoe on the other foot it will be interesting to see how this plays out. I'll laugh if the DOJ threatens to pull federal funding from MO law enforcement activities.

I have no problem siding with you on this. I'm not a gun owner but I do support the law and it's enforcement.

 

[Mr. Deez]

Federal and state governments generally should help each other enforce their laws. If a FBI agent catches a shoplifter, he shouldn't ignore it. If a local police officer happens to catch an international drug lord, he should turn him over to federal authorities. However, what they should do and what they must do aren't the same things. It's stupid to be a sanctuary city/state (whether we're talking about illegal immigration or gun crimes), but it's not illegal or unconstitutional.

 

[bystander]

Federal and state governments generally should help each other enforce their laws. If a FBI agent catches a shoplifter, he shouldn't ignore it. If a local police officer happens to catch an international drug lord, he should turn him over to federal authorities. However, what they should do and what they must do aren't the same things. It's stupid to be a sanctuary city/state (whether we're talking about illegal immigration or gun crimes), but it's not illegal or unconstitutional.

Makes perfect sense. But in my view, the overt "we don't have to do it and we're not gonna' do it announcements" are wholly political and that's why it bugs me so much.

And no died in the wool self-described Conservative should ever sign off on ignoring the law.

 

[Mr. Deez]

Makes perfect sense. But in my view, the overt "we don't have to do it and we're not gonna' do it announcements" are wholly political and that's why it bugs me so much.

And no died in the wool self-described Conservative should ever sign off on ignoring the law.

I agree. We also need to end this practice of prosecutors refusing to defend or enforce laws they don't like. That's a friggin disgrace.

 

[nashhorn]

Just what law are they ‘non’ enforcing? And yeah, I think this will be hard to justify withholding funds in light of the blind eye to the sanctuary city ignoring.

 

[OUBubba]

Federal and state governments generally should help each other enforce their laws. If a FBI agent catches a shoplifter, he shouldn't ignore it. If a local police officer happens to catch an international drug lord, he should turn him over to federal authorities. However, what they should do and what they must do aren't the same things. It's stupid to be a sanctuary city/state (whether we're talking about illegal immigration or gun crimes), but it's not illegal or unconstitutional.

The one concept of sanctuary city that I can get on board with is that the population knowing that reporting a crime or being a witness to a crime will not lead to them being deported leads to a more robust community and a stronger police presence against serious crime.

 

[Seattle Husker]

St. Louis couple Mark, Patricia McCloskey pay fines, lose guns in guilty plea over encounter with rioters

Who is to blame? George Soros accord to R Senate Candidate Mark McCloskey.

"If we didn’t have somebody named George Soros in the world, we never would have been charged with anything," he said.

George Soros is the most powerful man in the world and he's never held political office!

"George Soros" is now simply a euphamism for progressives. Think about it. "Is we didn't have progressives in the world, we never would have been charged with anything." Well...duh...and McCloskey wouldn't be a wealthy ambulance chaser either. The guy is a personal injury lawyer for heavens sake. His second career is to reinvent himself as a conservative based on a single incident. It worked for Rudy for a bit, not convinced Mr. McCloskey will fair as well but it is Missouri.