OU's 2005 W-L Record

It is obvious that you are looking through orange tinted glasses at the situation, so it is worthless to have a discussion... Look at the facts. I know you hope cheating explains everything.... we had a worst season when we were 'cheating.' I still fail to see how some guys who set up a deal with a booster has anything to do with Oklahoma cheating. Just as I do not see any relation when a Texas player gets in trouble with the law.
 
It isn't the orange tinted goggles that clouds us, it is the 'my son would never do that!!!' that clouds you.

OU has a history of cheating.
OU's mascot is based on cheaters.
OU sent it players to work there. OU responded by booting 2 players, even though 3 were getting paid. All the records for the other players 'disappeared'. OU suggested a penalty of losing 2 scholarships, for 1 year, which was ********, because it wasn't as if they could have filled those positions anyway.
OU appealed the slap on the wrist.

Peterson, drove a free car for 3 months. I dont care if it was old. new, or whatever. 3 ******* months of a car that was not his. This deal was with the same employer who gave athletes free cash for no work.

The story wasn't broken by OU. It was broken by someone on Texags, then brought to media, and finally to the NCAA and OU, IIRC.

Texas players have had problems with the law. Most stem from doing ********, DUIs, DWBs, pot, ect. They haven't been busted for free cars, free houses, free cash. If you cannot see the difference between a student getting drunk and an infraction in which the OU ignores, contributes, or lacks control of, then...well, you are kidding yourself.

But then again, someone from FSU probably think FSU had just a few bad apples too, not a problem with the institution. And everyone else, is flabbergasted at such.
 
UT has a history of cheating.
Mascot smack, weakest smack of all?
OU kicked two scholarship players off the team and the third kid was a walk on who left the team... Can you even kick a walk on off the team or do you just tell him to stop showing up?

I am asking honestly for you to point me to the evidence that showed AD drove a free can. I was pretty sure they proved his mom paid for the car.

OU knew they were employed at the dealership, but they were accepting all the money in the summers. When it overlapped into the school year and they were told of possible infractions, they found records to not match. Both players were immediately kicked off the team after they lied to Stoops face about everything.

The NCAA overruled the lack of institutional control, so the university was not found accountable for the actions of the players. Unless you want to say guilty even when proven innocent, would be incorrect about that issue as well.

On the Texas players... Of course I see the difference. I was saying I connect the two about the same to the universities... If a player wants money from a booster and the booster is willing to give him the money behind the schools back... how do you catch that?
 
Drugs are bad Mm'kay.

Taking some cash, getting caught and then booted from the team.

Or, driving while high. Or breaking and entering.

I think the cash is the less evil of the 2.
 
Why don't we beat our best friend within an inch of his life? That's all good too, right douche bag? What the **** does your statement have to do with restoring the modest win total from 2005?
 
There is no point in arguing with a sooner. THEY are the ones that condone the **** and THEY are the only ones that think they don't cheat. Orange tinted glasses? No, the country is looking through clear classes. 0U, it's fanbase, and the NCAA can't even see through their glasses they are so dark. Get real.
 
He rejoined the team even though his ineligibility should have run out because he was kicked off the team in the middle of his senior year.

I'm LMAO at the idea that OU self-reported the violations, when a poster on TexAgs.com was talking about the infractions with the dealership months before OU reported anything because his g/f worked in the OU Ath. Dept.

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It's bad for everyone that OU got away with cheating again, but the big loser in this reinstatement is the one team who, from the time the forfeitures were announced, started claiming an extra victory. Now aggie jr high has to admit that they lost another game.
 
In response to:

"If you knew anything about Boren/ Joe C, you would know they want OU to have a totally clean image. Sure teams slip up,......."

Like the 577 illegal phone calls Sampson made. A slip-up.....could have happened to anyone.
 
It benefitted Indiana, just like it benefitted OU. Indiana is having a lot of success with players they might not have had if not for Sampson's cheating, and they'll probably keep those players after axing Kelvin.
 
I'm not surprised that Indiana ran Sampson off, but I am surprised that they hired him in the first place. Indiana's reputation is squeaky clean, and I don't understand why they would hire "tainted goods".

Just like you shouldn't be surprised if a rattlesnake bites you while handling it: that's what they do.
 
At OU, the cheaters were dumbass kids squeezing extra hours out of a jock-sniffing car dealership manager.

At UT, the cheater(s) was a 'volunteer' baseball COACH getting paid 40K a year by an employer he didn't even know existed.

Which is worse?

Garrido must have been livid that this **** was going on behind his back.
 
The OU cheating was worse, thanks for asking. How again is a month-old thread about OU's not having to live with their original punishment for cheating on a UT board an appropriate place for a negative comment about UT baseball, especially on a Football "ON THE FIELD" forum? Try to be courteous and play by the rules. No one is impressed.
 
Great point. Forgot I was on the wrong board and past the statute of limititations on the baseball infraction.

Don't worry, my post will be deleted within the hour.
 
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