Our next OC and DC

Ian Boyd has a post up about the Ash defense, here is some of it (he was looking at the Steelers last g vs. Kyler Murray)
Scoop Q&A - 12/16/19 - Inside Texas

" .... This kind of "buzz" coverage with a safety playing down sorta like a linebacker while the "linebacker" plays man coverage on a receiver out wide is pretty common at the next level and is a useful distinction for figuring out what to do with Texas' 2020 personnel. I'm not totally sure if Chris Ash will stick with the quarters coverages he's played in the past (probably yes) but even if he does, the sort of personnel packaging you see above could still work for the 2020 Longhorns if they did something like this:
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Before everyone comes in telling me I need to move this player here and that player there, let me explain the set-up and thinking here:

D'Shawn Jamison as nickel
The nickel in this D is usually covered up more, although it should be noted that Ash has experimented with the tite front and 4i-techniques at strongside end. He probably shouldn't do that save for against trips sets so that he can use a true corner at nickel and be able to press up and deny easy throws to that position.

Jamison is fantastic playing in run support and matching quick breaks underneath with help over the top, both of which are easily leveraged in a 4-down at nickel. Sterns is finally moved to his natural position as a field safety here, although at either spot I'm sure his role will primarily consist of playing deep in support or else taking on coverage assignments you don't want to go to box safeties like Foster or Overshown. Speaking of those guys...

BJ Foster at middle linebacker, Overshown at boundary safety
The middle linebacker in the Under gets put into space a ton at the college level and ruthlessly attacked with run/pass conflicts. Ideally you help him out at times with techniques like the 4i or a heavy 5-technique strongside end that plays the B-gap rather than setting the edge. At any rate, you want at least one of your ILBs to be capable of keeping up with a good flex TE or slot receiver underneath in coverage, playing sideline to sideline, and fitting inside runs from the hash mark. That's often the middle linebacker that has to do that in this scheme, so that's where you want your converted safety.

Why Foster rather than Overshown? For one, Foster has shown a lot more willingness to play in this sort of role than Overshown, for another he's actually probably better at it. Foster's specialty is generating insane explosiveness and power over a short area, Overshown's specialty is covering a ton of ground quickly and arriving with pop. Foster can handle playing up in the box both in terms of dealing with the conflicts in space and also in blowing up blockers and generating the necessary power within a few steps. Overshown is exactly the kind of guy you want lining up back at safety like Chancellor or Edmunds only to appear in position to make plays like a linebacker unexpectedly and after the snap.

The defensive line
I think Ta'Quon Graham could play strongside end or 3-technique defensive tackle and I'm not sure which he'd be better at. It might depend on whether the better fourth DL is Marqez Bimage, who's a pretty prototypical strongside end, or Moro Ojomo who's probably more of a 3-technique. If Ojomo is next best, Graham can play strongside end. If it's Bimage in 2020, then Graham can probably play at 3-technique. Joseph Ossai is your weakside DE/OLB hybrid, full stop. It's hard to imagine Texas hiring Chris Ash and using Ossai as anything other than an edge rusher who can drop into zone at times rather than a zone dropper who can rush the edge at times. This is the way to do it. If Ash tries to play Overshown or Foster at nickel and that's the talk of the spring, you'll know that there's likely to be some issues in 2020.

Good stuff here.

For a 4 man D front with our personnel, and with the need for maximum pass rush capability in the Big 12, I like:

NT -- 1. Coburn; 2. Sweat
DT -- 1. Graham; 2. Ojomo
SDE -- 1. Bimage; 2. Jacoby Jones
WDE (rush end) -- 1. Ossai; 2. Vaughans or Dorbah (if he's ready)

That leaves our LB corps a bit thin, but we may be 4-2-5 most of the time.

I also like this idea above of spinning down BJ Foster and/or Overshown to an LB. That equates to an improvement in team speed without sacrificing too much in the power/run stopping department.
 
In case you didnt notice, full article attached, where he makes his case
Contrar-Ian says passing wins championships – Concerning Sports

That was an interesting post. It's funny how we can nearly pinpoint the exact MOMENT that Texas football became flawed (2009 CCG) and haven't followed any of the advice about spread passing since. I think until we can get an OC who is willing to take that step like LSU did this past season, we're going to be stuck on the outside looking in.
 
Good stuff here.

For a 4 man D front with our personnel, and with the need for maximum pass rush capability in the Big 12, I like:

NT -- 1. Coburn; 2. Sweat
DT -- 1. Graham; 2. Ojomo
SDE -- 1. Bimage; 2. Jacoby Jones
WDE (rush end) -- 1. Ossai; 2. Vaughans or Dorbah (if he's ready)

That leaves our LB corps a bit thin, but we may be 4-2-5 most of the time.

I also like this idea above of spinning down BJ Foster and/or Overshown to an LB. That equates to an improvement in team speed without sacrificing too much in the power/run stopping department.

Yeah, but I think Sweat starts (somewhere)
 
My favored ideas: Harrell, Brady, or Lashlee, with free rein to run the offense.

What might happen instead: (i) Beck sticks on, with Tom doing most of the play calling; (ii) same as (i) but with "consultant" Greg Davis up in the press box as well, giving advice; (iii) some non-Beck "yes man" is hired at OC with Tom actually running the offensive show. These are not terrible outcomes, but I'd much rather get Harrell, Brady, or Lashlee, and let the OC run the show on offense. Tom can call plays, but I want him to be much less predictable.

An outside-the-box pick for OC: Hank Carter.
Hank Carter or Hank Hill?
 
Yeah, but I think Sweat starts (somewhere)
It’s probably Sweat or Graham as the other down DL opposite Coburn. The 2 down linemen get rotated in and out frequently. The second teamers may see 40% + of the playing time at those 2 positions. 310+ pounders often need a breather. If either Graham or Sweat end up at SDE, they would improve their effectiveness by taking off some pounds.

Another thought: in Big 12 we’ll want to maximize pass rushing effectiveness in our front 4. That probably means Bimage at SDE over Graham or Sweat. Graham at 15 (or so) pounds lighter could be really good at SDE, but I see him inside in a 4 man front.
 
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*yawn* I’ve read for 3 weeks all the reasons why Harrell isn’t the best choice and now a lot of those same people are acting like the sky is falling because he chose to stay at USC. I’m not near smart enough to know who the right choices are for either coordinator role. Hire whoever the hell and let the results show next year on the field. If things don’t pan out then Herman has made his bed.
 
So if Harrell is gone, what’s our likely plan b, plan c, plan d? I would think LSU will pay as much as needed to keep Brady, but maybe not.

Worst case I can see is that Beck sticks on, and Tom mostly calls the plays.
 
Ouch, we were rumored to have offered twice as much
I would be shocked if that were true — 2.4/yr. versus 1.2 — and he turned it down. That is, unless our proposal had untenable restrictions associated with it, like his inability to leave without a severe penalty. But again, I find it difficult to believe this rumor.
 
Some of you guys are getting waaay too carried away with the TH stubbornness/Harrell as OC link...and just fanning the flames of rumours and media speculation-driven stories in general.
Take a chill and see how this plays out. Harrell was always a mostly media-driven (and Harrell driven) idea as far as I can see. And no one here knows what TH is or isnt doing or agreeing or disagreeing to right now. All we know...and I mean all...is that an OC has not been hired.
 
I would be shocked if that were true — 2.4/yr. versus 1.2 — and he turned it down. That is, unless our proposal had untenable restrictions associated with it, like his inability to leave without a severe penalty. But again, I find it difficult to believe this rumor.
I read $2M per year, but maybe only 1 or 2 years? Who really knows outside of involved parties?
 
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Yeah, his first complete class will be juniors next year.

Are we patient or what?
Burnt, come on man. He inherited real losers like Ehlinger, CJ, Duvernay, Jones, Shackelford...

Why should we be patient? Remember, we are a 7-5 team, and a FG away against Kansas from being 6-6.

Gotta give you credit. You’re much more patient than probably 90% of Longhorn Nation.
 
I was not a fan of hiring Harrell, at least not with Ehlinger. I do not know why everyone was hung up on him.

A Mike Leach spread is a bad idea unless we still had Buechele.

What we need is a running option spread with our current personnel.
 
So if Harrell is gone, what’s our likely plan b, plan c, plan d? I would think LSU will pay as much as needed to keep Brady, but maybe not.

Worst case I can see is that Beck sticks on, and Tom mostly calls the plays.

We're not getting Brady but CDC still might have to get on an airplane before this is all said and done, I really don't know. What I do know is that this feels so much like 2015 going into 2016 that I don't even want to admit it.
 
relax. Herman will have this team loaded with all his players (recruits) including his type of QB’s before long and it isn’t going make any difference who is the OC or the DC.

Like I’ve said before, there is a reason the novices were predicting a CFP and 10-11 wins this year and the people that make a lving setting odds were saying 8 wins (and that total was juiced up).

Within 3 years we will be in the playoffs. And will be there yearly.
 
relax. Herman will have this team loaded with all his players (recruits) including his type of QB’s before long and it isn’t going make any difference who is the OC or the DC.

Like I’ve said before, there is a reason the novices were predicting a CFP and 10-11 wins this year and the people that make a lving setting odds were saying 8 wins (and that total was juiced up).

Within 3 years we will be in the playoffs. And will be there yearly.
GH, you are a true believer, and always have been. I was too, until 2019 happened. Let’s hope you’re right.
 
We're not getting Brady but CDC still might have to get on an airplane before this is all said and done, I really don't know. What I do know is that this feels so much like 2015 going into 2016 that I don't even want to admit it.
Funny Sapo
I posted right when this search began that I'd be fine as long as we didn't end up flying the whole calvary out at the 11th hour to meet with a 3rd or 4th option in their driveway to beg from our knees. I dont think that is where we are at all...but, there's still time...
 
Burnt, come on man. He inherited real losers like Ehlinger, CJ, Duvernay, Jones, Shackelford...

Why should we be patient? Remember, we are a 7-5 team, and a FG away against Kansas from being 6-6.

Gotta give you credit. You’re much more patient than probably 90% of Longhorn Nation.
Or we're a defensive stop against Iowa State from being 8-4
 
I was not a fan of hiring Harrell, at least not with Ehlinger. I do not know why everyone was hung up on him.

A Mike Leach spread is a bad idea unless we still had Buechele.

What we need is a running option spread with our current personnel.
This is the problem we've had. I noted this in regards to Utahs coach in another thread. We just havent been adaptable enough to suit personel. Everyone seems to think some of the highly touted coaches just have a good system and keep trucking along with it year to year.
This isnt so. Most successful coaches these days are so because they can and do adapt to changing personel, opponents, and other factors as the game changes (quickly).
 

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