Official Presidential/Senate/House Game Thread

[Monahorns]

I am more comfortable with grift than socialism. Hope that is true.

 

[Mr. Deez]

But...but....but.... Trump will destroy the Republican party! Republicans solidify grip on state legislatures, which is likely to lead to redistricting and gerrymandering efforts in 2021

Are we in a better position now, or were we in a better position after 2010?

Also, you gotta love the biased headline. "
Republicans solidify grip on state legislatures, which is likely to lead to redistricting and gerrymandering efforts in 2021."

Of course, the implication is that Republicans gerrymander, but Democrats don't. It's baffling to me, because I've only heard of gerrymandering in the media for about the last 10 or 12 years and always involving Republicans. To them, it's a relatively new thing, when that's obviously BS. It is a very old practice that Democrats exploit and have long exploited every chance they got.

 

[Duck Dodgers]

As I saw written elsewhere, gerrymandering went from

Hilarious partisan hi-jinks
to
Moral Threat to the Republic

at exactly the same time Republicans got good at it.

One of the few times the Coward John Roberts didn't wet his diaper was when he ruled that the judiciary should get out of the business of redrawing legislative districts. That, plus the leftist takeover of the House relegated it from Prime Issue Facing the County!, to when were we talking about that?

 

[Garmel]

Are we in a better position now, or were we in a better position after 2010?

We're definitely in a better position after Bush wiped us out in 2008. Like 2010, due to history of midterms, we're more than likely to retake the House in 2022.

 

[mchammer]

We're definitely in a better position after Bush wiped us out in 2008. Like 2010, due to history of midterms, we're more than likely to retake the House in 2022.

Yeah, we cut the pain by 2 years. Like starting in 2010 under Obama. Also it’s easier to flip the house in one election than the senate. As such we will be in better position in 2024 to win versus 2012.

 

[Mr. Deez]

We're definitely in a better position after Bush wiped us out in 2008. Like 2010, due to history of midterms, we're more than likely to retake the House in 2022.

Yes, but 2010 was the redistricting election, not 2008. Also, 2008 was a much harder election to win than 2020. Things almost couldn't have been worse in 2008 - financial crisis, a war that was going badly, a divided party, and a strong Democratic nominee who virtually couldn't get the media off his jock.

 

[Mr. Deez]

Yeah, we cut the pain by 2 years. Like starting in 2010 under Obama. Also it’s easier to flip the house in one election than the senate. As such we will be in better position in 2024 to win versus 2012.

That's mostly because Willie Brown's ex-mistress is a much weaker nominee than Barack Obama was, and hopefully we'll have a stronger nominee than Mitt Romney.

 

[Garmel]

Yes, but 2010 was the redistricting election, not 2008. Also, 2008 was a much harder election to win than 2020. Things almost couldn't have been worse in 2008 - financial crisis, a war that was going badly, a divided party, and a strong Democratic nominee who virtually couldn't get the media off his jock.

Things are pretty bad in 2020 with the Covid and the recession. Let's be honest here. With this new weapon of mail-in balloting which brings dems out(Increases cheating as well) we could be in trouble for the future in regards to the presidency. Trump would not have won in 2016 and neither would have Bush if we had so many ballots floating around then like this year.

 

[Mr. Deez]

Things are pretty bad in 2020 with the Covid and the recession.

From a political standpoint, I would definitely rather deal with Covid than the financial crisis, because it's much easier for the opposition to pin a financial crisis on the incumbent (or his party) than it is to pin a pandemic on him.

Let's be honest here. With this new weapon of mail-in balloting which brings dems out(Increases cheating as well) we could be in trouble for the future in regards to the presidency.

My hope is that mail-in balloting doesn't become the norm after this election. If it does, then we'll have to see what happens. We were supposed to lose this election decisively, and that didn't happen. We lost the presidency (not surprisingly) but otherwise did much better than expected and scored significant policy wins in California of all places.

Honestly, I'm not crapping my pants about this election. Trump is gone, and we're not going to have a packed Supreme Court. For me, that's a decent outcome.

 

[mchammer]

 

[mchammer]

Looks like GOP will be 4-5 seats short of House majority. I counted 13 races where the GOP candidate lost with 48-49% of the vote. Plenty more at 44-47%. So close.

 

[HornHuskerDad]

Looks like GOP will be 4-5 seats short of House majority.

Still a pretty nice outcome for the GOP in the face of the "Blue Wave" predictions.

 

[WillUSAF]

Still a pretty nice outcome for the GOP in the face of the "Blue Wave" predictions.

This "blue wave" is not being talked about enough. Democrats were supposed to clean up and have a HUGE majority in the House. Of course that didn't happen (if your a believer in the vote count..). Pelosi is not getting any flack for this! If you remember, I can't recall the year, there was supposed to be a "Red Wave" during midterm elections and the Rs got smoked. Who was the fall guy? Speaker of the House Newt Gingrich. Why isn't Pelosi being fired?

 

[theiioftx]

The polling was either incredibly incompetent or designed specifically to go against Republicans. Either way, they should be held accountable as should the MSM. We cannot have free and fair elections with polls and media that are biased.

 

[Duck Dodgers]

This "blue wave" is not being talked about enough. Democrats were supposed to clean up and have a HUGE majority in the House. Of course that didn't happen (if your a believer in the vote count..). Pelosi is not getting any flack for this! If you remember, I can't recall the year, there was supposed to be a "Red Wave" during midterm elections and the Rs got smoked. Who was the fall guy? Speaker of the House Newt Gingrich. Why isn't Pelosi being fired?

Was the 98 midterms. Had a few R losses, in a year it was supposed to be big gains, and Gingrich took the fall.

The Democrats don't have any of the same media focus on them, the media always puts a smiley face on everything they do and say how wonderful it is. That said, Pelosi is such an unpleasant and unlikeable old hag that having her as the face of the House Democrats, going into 2022 is a great advantage to the Republicans, who only need to swap out 5-7 seats it looks like to regain control, plus after the 2020 re-redistricting, and no court suits allowed about it, they would probably lose that many seats even in a tie year. Will probably be far worse after two years of the Slow Joe Experience.