no country for old men

Just watched Tarantino read NCFOM's nomination for the Golden Globe. Funny watching him dance around as he announced it.
 
in the movie, moss is lying in bed with his woman. then he says, "ok fine". gets up, and starts to pour the water into the jug. i was confused as to the water at that moment cause i didnt even think of the gut shot guy (figured he was dead at that point) but then they show him going out to the desert and the first place he notices is the cab where the guy is. to me this is pretty clear that he goes back to help the guy and not for the drugs.
 
Yeah, I hated Pulp Fiction because that little tart girlfriend of Bruce Willis' made him go back and get the watch off the kangaroo. I mean, that part with her calling him a puss for being too scared to retrace his steps was so unrealistic and made me hate the movie.
 
When I read the book, at first I hated the fact that Moss returned to the scene. However, I think it fits in perfectly with the ideas of morality and principle that run through the entire story. Moss probably thought himself a good person. Or at least, he didn't think anything wrong of taking money that had been lost in a gunbattle between no-good criminals. He's trying to do the right thing, and in doing so, he opens up a can of worms for himself. I'm sure he sees it that way. When in fact, he actually opened up the can of worms the second he carried that case of money from under the tree.

I don't at all see it as a "stretch" plot device that is shoehorned in.
 
All that dumbass had to do was not take that dying drug dealer water, and inspect the satchel and its contents like any normal person would have done. You can't stop what's comin'.
 
I'll toss this out there about Moss dying off screen: thematically, two things have to happen before Moss can die - Harrelson's deal offer and Anton's. After these two things, Moss can die at any time, from a story point of view.

Having a long, drawn out scene of the Mexicans stalking Moss, Moss maknig heroic stand, etc. would leave the wrong impression, since I think the movie (and presumably, the book) proceeds from a given that Life Ain't Worth Much. Killing him off camera provide much more the impression that he's just another 'drug gang related casualty', which, in fact, he is. Besides, having the big on-screen showdown would make Moss more sympathetic, when he actually just brought the ****-ton of bricks down on himself.
 
He thought he was smarter than he was.

West Texas pride and stubborness are a bit of chemistry that even a crazed killer cannot buck.
 
Moss was one click of a sawed off shotgun hammer away from putting Chigurh down for the dirt nap. In addition, Chigurh definitely knew he was in a fight as evidenced by his trip to the pharmacy in Uvalde. Even Wells was impressed that Moss not only tangled with Anton and lived, but inflicted damage. Moss may have been in over his head, but he definitely made an accounting of himself.
 
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Speaking of that gunfight, I had one big Oh **** moment - when Moss was taking the water and that jacked up truck topped the hill.

The giant "Holy ****!!!!!" moment came when Moss was carjacking the pickup, says "I ain't gonna hurt ya", and the dude got shot through the neck. F'n craziness.
 
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I like the way the Coen Bros will reinvent a scene and transplant it to other movies. I half expected for that guy driving the truck to say, "Boy, you got a panty on your head." I think he might have if his vocal chords weren't all over the windshield.
 
Ed Tom: "...he's got a sandwich in one hand and the fuckin' head in the other!"

Another little reinvented scene from Raisin Arizona was when Chigurh shot at the turkey buzzard off the highway...he was particularly hard on the little things.
 
saw this movie today and was very impressed. it was very well made and everyone gave a great performance. my favorite scene was the one where moss is sitting in his hotel room with his gun pointed at the door, and the bad guy is on the other side. so much tension.

i'd like to see it again to try and tie up some loose ends (although this thread has done a great job of that as well).
 
great thread

a good film creates a lot of analysis, and we've got that here. enjoyed reading others thoughts abt a movie which I now have among my top 3 of the Coen bros (Fargo and RA). Shesohorny and I saw it on Sunday, and I went back and saw it again last nite. 2nd viewing clarified some things, but I've gotten some more insight from this thread.

like others I still have some questions abt how Anton, Woody H, and the Mexican mafia guys did their tracking, but I won't let that detract from a remarkable film; just gives us more to talk about.

and in regards to Anton's body count, someone said 13; I count 16: the deputy, fella in the white Ford, the 2 hit men (?) at the shootout scene, the 3 Mexican dudes in room 138, the hotel clerk, Woody H, Stephen Root, his accountant, the pickup driver, poultry farmer, the beer girl at the motel, Moss and his wife. Guess you could say 17 with the guy who t-boned Anton (broken neck?).

helluva movie
 
The rich guy hired Chigurh to get the money. He hired Woody because he realized he had a maniac on the loose, and needed someone to take him down and clean up the mess. Chigurh knew that's what Woody was hired to do and killed both of them for it.

I don't think anyone at the theatre I saw it at the other day liked the ending. I heard one guy say he should get $5 back. I was frustrated with the ending at the time, but it's growing on me.
 
It was my understanding that the guys waiting in the motel room for Moss were on the Mexican side(the stolen drugs) and not the rich white man in houston, who woody and anton worked for(the stolen money).
 
They eat lots of sangwiches! I have never seen so many posts on one movie, though this one deserves it so I will occasionally bump this mofo up! Call it!
 
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