Newt Gingrich

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I don't know, I think that young lady who eventually found out she still has to make her car payments is not too excited about Obama any more.
 
Newt is among the most brilliant out-of-the-box thinking policy wonks in Washington. If you don't believe that, you've never read his positions. If you look into it with an open mind you'll discover they're very apolitical and common-sense based. His ideas, if they could get implemented, would put this country on a fine course. Unfortunately, he has a lot of personal baggage that may make him unelectable. Furthermore, many of his ideas may be too much for Congress to swallow being the self-centered reelection-minded legislators that most of them are. Frankly, I find both of these points to be tragic for the country because it will take someone like him to get the country back on a good path.
 
Welcome to the West Mall:

OP Newt was lying, here's the evidence.
GOP #1 So did Clinton, let's talk about Clinton. This lie is okay if Clinton lied!
GOP #2 You're an Obama bootlicker!
DEM #1 GOPs lie 24/7
GOP #3 I'd like to talk about the issues, but there's some static in the room
OP Me, too.
GOP#2 You're a bootlicker if you vote for the guy.

Jeez

Props to Yo and Prodigal for trying. Good luck to you!
 
The President of the United States was in El Paso this week proclaiming that stupid Republicans wanted him to build a moat for border security.

So maybe asinine statements are now considered presidential.
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Don't be naive. The GOP lost the election last time around due to 2 groups voting the other way. Young voters and hispanic voters are not lining up for the GOP and Newt will only further push them away. The hispanic population is growing faster and that is the group that for some unknown reason the GOP continues to fail with.

Newt has zero chance of getting elected. Please put him on your ballot.
 
hornpharmd,
the young vote came out largely because Obama promised hope, change, and a different type of administration. Largely, Obama has either continued the Bush policies or he has continued Bush ideologies.
Massive government spending, Gitmo, 2 wars (now a third in Libya). These are not things that are going to be popular with young voters. Remember when Obama was going to close Gitmo, get out of Iraq? Those things haven't happened. Obama even reiterated his closing of Gitmo after his election, set a date and everything.
Obama has not been any more transparent than previous administrations (I don't think he has been really less transparent either). He certainly hasn't really shifted on these matters. He promised to have no lobbyists in his administration, but he did.
Obama has tended towards big spending domestic programs as well. Bush had his medicare expansion, as well as his massive No Child Left Behind education program. Obama has Obama care. Both had massive bailouts of big industries.

Honestly, the Dem. candidate normally wins the young vote, and I believe Obama will still win it handily. The question is can he turn out young voters like he did in 2008. I don't think so.
This is purely anecdotal, but my sister in law is a student at U of H. She said most people she knew as a freshman in 2008 voted for Obama. The word she used to describe how they feel about him now is 'hate.' I quizzed her on the usage of the word 'hate' and she said that was accurate. Will they vote for the GOP candidate? I doubt it, but they probably won't be voting Obama either.
 
Wow, Shark, you've been busy this morning.

The D's could possibly lose the Senate next year due to the number who have announced they won't seek relection (5 so far counting Herb Kohl who bugged out yesterday), but the R's have 2 leaving so far with probably more to come (paging Tom Coburn) and they need some good candidates to keep those seats and take the formally Dem ones.

The curb-stomping was last year. A lot has happened in the brief period of time since then and a lot of indies and R's are unhappy w/ their new and old R congressmen as shown by recall petitions, unexpectedly tight race in NY 26 (one of the reddest in the country, formerly pin-up boy Rep Chris Lee's, only 3 D's elected in the last 150 yrs), polling, and - my favorite - the large number of freshmen Congressional R's who sent a letter to the President asking him to ask their D counterparts to quite being so mean to them and saying hateful "partisan" things about them. Crybabies who have not delivered on their promises of jobs, smaller govt, less govt intereference in personal lives, and 40 acres and a mule are scared of their voters.

A chance of R's taking the Senate, a chance of D's taking the House, no chance of Obama losing to any announced or potential Republican. Herman Cain? Ron Paul? Newt? Trump? Pawlenty? Huck? Bachmann? Santorum? Sarah? Even unannounced Christie, Daniels, or Huntsman are unknowns. (Yeah, yeah...so was "Dear Leader", etc.).

When 45% of voters (latest NY Times-GfK Roper poll) say they are dissatisfied with the GOP candidates who have declared or are thought to be serious about running, up from 33 percent two months ago, you've got problems.

A lot of you listen to the R talking heads in your car and watch Fox News 24/7, thinking the rest of the country is drinking that kool aid too, but in reality they're not.
 
Shark, we were talking presidential election.

On your topic you are delusional if you think the GOP has done anything positive since in office or lived up to their campaign promises.

Many voters swing back and forth and the mid term elections were more about jobs than anything else.
 
Theu, we now have a chance to get out of Afghanistan, the US is much further out of Iraq, we are no in Libya as you suggest, we have see! Financial reform legislation, healthcare reform legislation, repeal of don't ask don't tell, etc. Have we gotten everything as voters that we wanted, of course not. But there wasn't going to be another candidate who would of accomplished as much.

Tell me how you think Newt or the GOP is appealing to these 2 groups to closevthe gap from last election?
 
Will the lack of any good nominee on top the GOP ticket in 2012 open up the possibility of Nancy Pelosi of Speaker of the House?

I'm using Oilfield logic that if Obama sucks this year, so must all the Republicans in charge of Congress. And I still can't believe that the people who brought us George Bush for 8 years actually think we've all forgotten that.
 
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