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Seattle Husker said:
Think that gets anyone closer to a peace deal?
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Ultimately ... yes. A peace deal is coming and it will be out of this conflict. That's not really new. We didn't have peace with Britain until we had conflict first. Ditto Japan. The examples are numerous, especially in our case. (US)

I don't personally support a Two-State deal, but I believe that's what is coming ... fast. That it will happen fast, I mean ... and relatively soon.

I'll admit I thought BN was going to be the IPM who was when Israel is attacked. But I could be wrong about that. Despite my recent learnings about the construct of the Israeli govt and the recent history, I still have much to learn. I liken it to picking-up rocks at Mom/Dad's place when we were kids to build a grass strip, so pops could commute to work in a Cessna 150. We'd pick one rock, and there'd be two underneath it.

Anyhow.

The two last posts of mine relate to the action of Congress, as a representative of The People. They (we) are begging for a supreme world authority figure. We're going to get one, relatively soon. Not tomorrow ... but not in 20 years either. I think ... and I could be wrong on the precision of this window ... but I THINK within the next couple of years ... before the end of 2022's summer.

This is why I say 2020 will probably be the last POTUS election as we've known the office. By 2024, I think POTUS will be, at best, one "governor" among 10 worldwide, under a single emperor/prime minister/whatever title.

The letter represents acknowledgement, too, of the increased physical threat to Israel's north ... as Daniel prophesied. The Russia/Iran/TURKEY alliance is new and its increased support for the Hezbollah with more destructive weapons is NOT insignificant in all of these transpiring events.

I think the relevance to the OP is clear.

Thanks for your continued commentary.
 
It appears we both agree a 2-state solution is the only workable solution.
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You may be right. But if you have read any of the history. Neither side wants 2 states. Neither. The place is a crap storm for a reason.
 
ShAArk92 said:
Ultimately ... yes. A peace deal is coming and it will be out of this conflict. That's not really new. We didn't have peace with Britain until we had conflict first. Ditto Japan. The examples are numerous, especially in our case. (US)
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Eventually there will be peace, that's true. We're moving further away though.
 
Seattle Husker said:
We're moving further away though.
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when they say peace ... there will be war. ... paraphrased 1 Thess 5:3

I envision watching a T-38 student pilot do his first turning rejoin at 350 knots. Looks good ... right until it doesn't and a breakout maneuver is required to avoid collision. Recover the rejoin line, control the closure, and then slide right into position.

That's kinda how it's gonna be, methinks. and, as I've stated a few times, now ... soon.
 
@Seattle Husker

one thing which may be getting missed ...

just because a Peace Deal is signed ... doesn't mean there will BE a lasting/sincere peace. A 7 year peace deal from a consolidated UN and a single person presiding ... which will include the authorization for the Jews to build the 3rd Temple.

But the conditions of the Peace deal will be an abomination to God (Israel giving more land) and recognition of Israel by the muslim Arabs will be unacceptable ... all this follows the loss of 1/4th the world's population, btw.

I think this deal is done before the end of 2022's summer.
 
ShAArk92 said:
@Seattle Husker

one thing which may be getting missed ...

just because a Peace Deal is signed ... doesn't mean there will BE a lasting/sincere peace. A 7 year peace deal from a consolidated UN and a single person presiding ... which will include the authorization for the Jews to build the 3rd Temple.

But the conditions of the Peace deal will be an abomination to God (Israel giving more land) and recognition of Israel by the muslim Arabs will be unacceptable ... all this follows the loss of 1/4th the world's population, btw.

I think this deal is done before the end of 2022's summer.
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I'm not an end of days guy but can you PM me your address so I can make a beeline to your compound should your less than likely predictions come to fruition? Thanks in advance.
 
Seattle Husker said:
PM me your address so I can make a beeline to your compound
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It's easier than making a beeline to my "compound" good sir. PM me your address and I'll tell ya more.

... ED: to say you are or are not "and end of days guy" is irrelevant. Consider that the end of days will be a Seattle Husker guy. Something like the adage ... you may not be interested in politics, but politics is interested in you. You still have a response, and you will make a response. The only question is how and when ...
 
Garmel said:
Why don't you do the same?
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the Truth is convicting ...

No one likes to be told they're wrong. This is the short answer. What validates this ... I still act like LH occasionally, and yet His grace is STILL sufficient for me.

Some are more bull-noggined than others.

It's truly where freedom is, but each has to make his own decision. Accept or reject.
 
Did you know the UN Charter/Resolution 181 of 1947 ... establishing the State of Israel ...

provides for the freedom of the Jews to worship on Mount Moriah ... though they've been denied that right since The State's rebirth?

Trump moved the US Embassy to Jerusalem in his first term ... is it inconceivable in his 2nd term, his (State Department) will be the lead in honoring UNR181 in this fashion, too???
 
ShAArk92 said:
Did you know the UN Charter/Resolution 181 of 1947 ... establishing the State of Israel ...

provides for the freedom of the Jews to worship on Mount Moriah ... though they've been denied that right since The State's rebirth?

Trump moved the US Embassy to Jerusalem in his first term ... is it inconceivable in his 2nd term, his (State Department) will be the lead in honoring UNR181 in this fashion, too???
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I think they should be able to worship on Mount Moriah, but that isn't our battle to fight.
 
I agree with you Deez! I would support it from my couch in Texas, but Israel has chosen not to because of the blow back. That is their situation to manage. Not mine.
 
Off topic I guess but I spent some time there, including a friend's wedding. I would recommend anyone visit, it is a remarkable place. I would put it on my list of places everyone should see at least once in life. Go while you still can, who knows what lies ahead?
 
ShAArk92 said:
I think it’s about to become everyone’s battle whether they want to or not.
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It doesn't have to. If Israel wants to permit Jews to pray and worship there, they are free to do that. I think it's absurd that they can't, but they decided that it's not with the fight. If they one day decide that it is worth the fight, then I'll certainly commend them for it. However, should the US send troops to Israel to ensure it? Absolutely not. That is an internal Israeli issue and has no bearing on our interests.
 
Memories of Jerusalem/Israel have started to flood back--

(1) Within a 2 week period in Jerusalem, we had both snow (no kidding, ~1 inch and it stuck for ~a day) and a giant dust storm during which it was unsafe to go outside. The cloud was so wide and ominous you could see it coming 100 miles away. Afterwards, there was 10 inches of dust on the window ledge.

(2) One day we were in the Arab section of the old city. A Haredi on a bicycle ran over the Korean-American wife of one of our group and they both got flattened to the ground. He got up and started yelling at her. I ran over and got between them, but dude knew no English so there was a lot of hand waving. Then this Arab butcher whose shop we were in front of came out wearing a bloody apron and still holding a leg of lamb in one hand, and starting yelling at the Haredi in Hebrew. Our woman was still dazed, perhaps concussed. I was in the middle, desperately wanting to yell too but I had no idea what everyone was saying. Then two female Israeli police came up in full uniform to break it up. More yelling. People love yelling here. And they were kind of hot, fit-looking in their snappy fatigues and oddly friendly to me. So then, out of nowhere, my gf grabs my arm. It was quite the little scene with maybe 50-60 people gathered around to see how it would end (it ended with everyone walking away).

(3) Later we visited the Haredi section of town. These people are more extreme orthodox than Hasidics. They basically tried to recreate european jewish slums. Why? I have no idea. No phones, no tvs, very odd grooming & mating habits, etc. And get this, all news and announcements were by posters plastered onto the walls. Every day. For some reason, they did not seem to be in love of the idea of American tourists staring at them. But it just couldnt be helped.

(4) If you dont know, inside the walls of the old city, one the things the Arabs did was build crappy apartments over many of the sacred areas, for example where Jesus is supposed to have walked. So there are tour groups re-walking those steps under clotheslines filled with underwear of poor Arabs stretched out between the buildings. This land is full of little insults like that.

(5) If you are into history and/or one of the competing religions here, you could easily spend years in this city. It is one of those kind of places that you dont just see, but you feel. It's an amzingly powerful place and it will grab you.

(6) When I was there, there were problems and so the Palestinian area was off limits. We went anyway because I had to see Bethlehem. Despite all the checkpoints, it felt like it was only a couple blocks away. Giant church with a giant parking lot but nearly empty. I rmbr there was lots of soot. Still, its something you must do if there. Once back outside, I visited some of the area shops. The Palestinian business owners were dying with the curfew. They invited me in the back for tea. It was just like you might imagine, with the men seated and women/girls serving while giggling in the back. Luckily my cab driver translated. They were incredibly hospitable. I felt bad for them as there were zero customers anywhere to be seen.

(7) Saw the Negev, a kibbutz and stayed in Eilat. Israeli girls like exotic fashions. Whether or not it works is up to the viewer, but they draw your attention.

(8) I also surfed Tel Aviv (try to do that anywhere I go it if its possible)

(9) Lastly, while still in Tel Aviv, we went to a movie one night -- "As Good As It Gets" with Jack Nicholson and Helen Hunt. I recall 2 things - the long line to enter as everyone was searched. And, because of the subtitles, we would start laughing out loud ~7 seconds before the rest of the theatre. This went on for 2 hours - two people laughing alone, followed by a full room laughing on a 7-second delay. It made it all the funnier.
 
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