Israel = the Good Guys in the Middle East; Turks proving to be our enemies

That could be cause for war. I hope we don’t go to an actual boots on the ground war over this ghastly murder, but we’ve got to do something to discourage this sort of thing. Maybe a capture, trial, and execution of some big dogs in Hamas (if they are found guilty)….?

I’m for some level of due process. Even for sh!theads like these.

Are you advocating the US military getting involved? Please say you aren't.
 
I'm for due process if that means sharpening the swords to cutoff certain appendages or heads or polishing the rocket heads before taking out 50-100 members of their families. One dead American calls for a thousand dead Hamas. There is no one or more people in the world the CIA shouldn't be able to take out within an hour. Wait that was the CIA of George HW Bush - does that mean I said something good about him?

One dead American = 1000 dead Hamas. Aren't we already facilitating the killing of Hamas and Gazans? I don't get how people keep resetting their thinking when something bad happens.

I, like everyone else, reject Hamas as legitimate and want to see them brought to justice. But let's not act like this came out of the blue. It is all a part of one huge tragedy after the next. There is only one way out of cycles of violence.
 
I wonder if Hamas gave any thought to repercussions of vilely murdering any of them ? Of murdering an American?
But I also wonder what whoever is ruling here now will do.
Our current regime will probably give them a medal.

The appropriate response is to give the region a nice new parking lot, which SHOULD have been done after Munich.
 
Are you advocating the US military getting involved? Please say you aren't.
Recommendation: take a remedial reading comprehension class.

"I hope we don’t go to an actual boots on the ground war over this ghastly murder..."
 
We have forgotten there were also Americans killed Oct 7.
But how anyone could try to mitigate the depraved actions of Hamas in murdering hostages so they wouldn't be rescued defies human decency.
 
6721,

While our idiotic administration never knew they were there, let us NEVER forget that those terrorist infiltrated our faculty to such a serious and high level that not even law enforcement in Travis County and Central Texas were advised of it.
 
Kamala talks tough:

“Hamas is an evil terrorist organization. With these murders, Hamas has even more American blood on its hands. I strongly condemn Hamas’ continued brutality, and so must the entire world. From its massacre of 1,200 people to sexual violence, taking of hostages, and these murders, Hamas’ depravity is evident and horrifying. The threat Hamas poses to the people of Israel—and American citizens in Israel—must be eliminated and Hamas cannot control Gaza. The Palestinian people too have suffered under Hamas’ rule for nearly two decades,” she added.
 
Here is Hersh --- The American citizen recently murdered in Gaza:

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He lived in Virginia.
 
Chop,

Since Kamala says that Hamas has all this blood on their hands, should I expect her to authorize an airlift of Lava soap to be sent to them?
 
We are seeing more protests. In NY city, the terrorists were carrying Hamas and Hezbollah flags. They are also protesting at Columbia U. They are demanding the usual; divesting from "genocide."

This is 100% on the Left. They coddled Muslims while clearly attacking white Christians with their rhetoric and hatred. The chickens have come home to roost. They ignored the culture of misogyny and homophobia for one reason; they were people of color. It was about race all along and now they have a problem.

And, it appears the head of the American Federation of Teachers (Randi Weingarten) is half-blaming the murder of the six hostages on Bibi. It's clear that Oct 6th means nothing to her/they. I don't know she/they goes by.

This kind of leftist person needs to be shown to the American people so they know what they are really voting for when they vote Liberal. Not paraded before the people or violated; just a media message that is loud and clear what the platform is from the head of our school teachers.
 
Try sending the cease fire proposal on the noses of a few missiles. Again, there is NO human being on the face of the earth that the CIA shouldn't be able to off within 24-48 hours.
 
Try sending the cease fire proposal on the noses of a few missiles. Again, there is NO human being on the face of the earth that the CIA shouldn't be able to off within 24-48 hours.

The CIA is a very wicked and immoral organization which is guilty of many abominable sins. I don't trust them to bring justice. If they were really interested in protecting American citizens they would have rescued that poor guy who was tortured and murdered by Hamas. The regime only mentioned this hostage after they failed to do anything for him, and worse as a means to rile up anger at Hamas to justify more bloodshed.
 
Mona
Understand . All cease fire agreements are not equal
Which one did Israel reject?

Not sure. I listen to news all day and I remember there was a recent discussion about it, but I don't know the details. There is always something one side doesn't like about the offer. Otherwise people at war would always take them. But they rarely do.
 
Israel rejected a cease fire plan that allowed Hamas to stay in Gaza.

please tell me the terms of the deal that Hamas had agreed to that Netanyahu refused.
:1) how many hostages were to be released and when?;

2) which Hamas murderers would Israel have to release in exchange? What were their crimes and what assurances were in place that they would not murder again?

3) what would become of Hamas? Would it have a pathway to regroup and continue its rule over Gaza?

4) if not, who would rule over Gaza? If Israel were forced to fully withdraw, who would fill the vacuum?

5) what measures were in place to block the smuggling routes of weapons from Egypt into Gaza and could they reasonably be relied upon?

6) why was this alleged “deal” an appropriate balance of the goal of freeing the hostages and the goal of protecting the population of Israel from further attacks?

7) what would become of Yahya Sinwar and Khalid Mashaal?

8) how was this so-called “agreement” by Hamas communicated?

9)Since Sinwar continues to hide, did the Hamas representative have any authority?
 
Those are good questions. Now ask those same questions aimed at the other side. Both sides will have to give up something and get something in return in order to get an agreement.
 
Looks like some of Kamala's top people think Trump is "colluding with Israel" to win the election...


Aren't a huge super majority of US politicians colluding with Israel through AIPAC (they have ties back to the state of Israel) or other Jewish donors? Trump's biggest donor is Miriam Adelson who now runs her late husband's foundation that advocates for Israel.
 
Aren't a huge super majority of US politicians colluding with Israel through AIPAC (they have ties back to the state of Israel) or other Jewish donors? Trump's biggest donor is Miriam Adelson who now runs her late husband's foundation that advocates for Israel.
MGM casinos = Democrats
Venetian = Republicans
 
Sheldon Adelson funded countless Republicans in recent decades. Without him, the Dems might well control both houses of Congress.
 
A Turkish gang attacked two unarmed Marines in street clothes. They ganged up on them—over a dozen guys ambushed them on the streets of Turkey. Bunch of cowards.

We can’t trust anyone over there except Israel.
 
Sheldon Adelson funded countless Republicans in recent decades. Without him, the Dems might well control both houses of Congress.

I'm sure he did, but that doesn't mean that the outcomes are all good. Most Republicans are a part of the Swamp.
 
A Turkish gang attacked two unarmed Marines in street clothes. They ganged up on them—over a dozen guys ambushed them on the streets of Turkey. Bunch of cowards.

We can’t trust anyone over there except Israel.

This is the 2nd time I have heard about US military being attacked in Turkey. The first time was when my brother was in the Navy and onshore there. It shook him up.

Thinking about this event gives me two other ideas. First, is I wonder who has killed more Americans or destroyed more US military equipment, Turkey or Israel. I know that Israel sank the USS Liberty and killed many of our sailors. The survivors lives have been wrecked trying to get recognition for what they suffered. Maybe I am missing something obvious but I haven't heard of anything like that with Turkey.

Second, is that the Marines were most likely attacked by Turks because of US military involved in Israel and the rest of the Middle East. Without that our troops probably wouldn't be at any risk walking the streets in Turkey.
 

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