IMO, the Fix is in

OUBubba said:
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If I calculated it correctly, the percentage of mail in ballots doubled from 2016 from 20 percent to over 40 percent of the voters. This angers me to no end because I feel like EITHER WAY there's too much opportunity for corruption. However, these days anybody can hack a machine too. So there's that. Funny that in 2016 there was no voter fraud but RUSSIA INTERFERED with social media advertisements. Sheep. You know, say there's two candidates, and the voting machines can't be touched. When each voter walks up to decide the coin flip answer, all of the advertising/hatred/hearsay goes out the window and there's the moment. I can't think that the machines are now not to be trusted because that would suck and imply our votes don't count no matter who we are.
 
zuckercanyon said:
If I calculated it correctly, the percentage of mail in ballots doubled from 2016 from 20 percent to over 40 percent of the voters. This angers me to no end because I feel like EITHER WAY there's too much opportunity for corruption. However, these days anybody can hack a machine too. So there's that. Funny that in 2016 there was no voter fraud but RUSSIA INTERFERED with social media advertisements. Sheep. You know, say there's two candidates, and the voting machines can't be touched. When each voter walks up to decide the coin flip answer, all of the advertising/hatred/hearsay goes out the window and there's the moment. I can't think that the machines are now not to be trusted because that would suck and imply our votes don't count no matter who we are.
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It’s a global pandemic, have you seen the news about it? Absentee voting was a way for people to safely vote. One party encouraged it. Another discouraged it. Early in person voting was also huge. I think 36,000,000 voted that way. More elderly black people voted early than voted in the 2016 election in Texas and Georgia.
 
OUBubba said:
It’s a global pandemic, have you seen the news about it? Absentee voting was a way for people to safely vote. One party encouraged it. Another discouraged it. Early in person voting was also huge. I think 36,000,000 voted that way. More elderly black people voted early than voted in the 2016 election in Texas and Georgia.
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Yeah I get it but still queasy about voting that requires less checking. Send out a mail in ballot to everyone? Geez. I voted early. In person. Had to produce my drivers license to verify my address. Got a ballot representative of my district's candidates. The voting machine took in the ballot "blank". I punched the buttons, hit the finish button, got the ballot back with my votes (which I could double check). Then went to another machine that I put my completed ballot in (I'm guessing to read my votes). That is solid. Although voting by mail was "necessary" due to covid, I hope this is a one-time deal. I hope the Georgia senate races go republican because it's hard to sleep at night knowing we'll have 13 supreme court justices and a law that says my company has to hire a diverse set of employees regardless of work ethic/etc.
 
I plan to vote for Purdue and Loeffler in the senate runoff in Georgia even though I don’t live there. It’s okay because I’m not going to be a massive fraud. Am I right?
 
zuckercanyon said:
Yeah I get it but still queasy about voting that requires less checking. Send out a mail in ballot to everyone? Geez. I voted early. In person. Had to produce my drivers license to verify my address. Got a ballot representative of my district's candidates. The voting machine took in the ballot "blank". I punched the buttons, hit the finish button, got the ballot back with my votes (which I could double check). Then went to another machine that I put my completed ballot in (I'm guessing to read my votes). That is solid. Although voting by mail was "necessary" due to covid, I hope this is a one-time deal. I hope the Georgia senate races go republican because it's hard to sleep at night knowing we'll have 13 supreme court justices and a law that says my company has to hire a diverse set of employees regardless of work ethic/etc.
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If you were telling me that there was massive fraud in states that mailed ballots to all voters I might be more apt to listen. Pennsylvania and Georgia don’t fly that way. Oklahoma absentee voting requires a notary public.
 
Seattle Husker said:
Almost like some states counted their mail in ballots last.
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“Legal” mail in ballots. Like oh I forgot this ace up my sleeve. Hillary lost because of Russia interference. Riigghht.... Did trump win states late at night when the mail in ballots were counted? You win. It’s just peculiar. If Georgia goes Democratic for those Senate seats, it’ll be extra “weird”.
 
You know I'm certainTrump is going to prove he won this election. I've seen his to do list -- in bright bold sharpie.
1 Prove Obama was born in Kenya!
2. Build a wall and make Mexico Pay for It.
3. Release My Tax Returns.
4. Prove I won the 2016 Popular Vote.
5. Prove massive multi-state conspiracy to displace me from my rightful second term and throw all the conspirators in jail -- but not too quick, cause I want to give my loving supporters time to pay down my campaign debt to myself first...
 
Crockett said:
You know I'm certainTrump is going to prove he won this election. I've seen his to do list -- in bright bold sharpie.
1 Prove Obama was born in Kenya!
2. Build a wall and make Mexico Pay for It.
3. Release My Tax Returns.
4. Prove I won the 2016 Popular Vote.
5. Prove massive multi-state conspiracy to displace me from my rightful second term and throw all the conspirators in jail -- but not too quick, cause I want to give my loving supporters time to pay down my campaign debt to myself first...
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No you can’t defeat those last several hundred thousand legal mail in ballots.
 
Seattle Husker said:
Almost like some states counted their mail in ballots last.
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The GOP in Wisconsin, Michigan, and Pennsylvania fought early counting of mail in and early voting ballots. It’s almost like they wanted an early red wave so that the known blue wave that was going to come after Election Day would look suspicious as an estimated 80%+ of mail ballots were from Democrats in some of these jurisdictions.
Trump wants election night result, but GOP has fought to make sure many ballots won't be counted by then

So obvious.
 
OUBubba said:
The GOP in Wisconsin, Michigan, and Pennsylvania fought early counting of mail in and early voting ballots. It’s almost like they wanted an early red wave so that the known blue wave that was going to come after Election Day would look suspicious as an estimated 80%+ of mail ballots were from Democrats in some of these jurisdictions.
Trump wants election night result, but GOP has fought to make sure many ballots won't be counted by then

So obvious.
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Never go full retard. ;)
 
Seattle Husker said:
@Mr. Deez Do you think the Supreme Court accepts the Trump Campaign's case that seeks to throw out the entire state as a remedy for 2 voters that were denied the opportunity to cure their ballots? I believe they are suing under the Equal Protection clause?

As stated previously, I doubt the SCOTUS takes up the case but I'm not a lawyer. Just seems to be an absurd solution to a small problem, of which they didn't even sue the correct defendants.
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If the election was decided by two votes, sure they would. And for me, this is the problem. Trump can find minor problems that impact a handful or even a few hundred votes here and there, and I'm ok with that. If we can find errors and correct them, great. We should push for as accurate of a vote as possible. However, the remedy is going to be more accurately tallying the vote, not tossing the election, because he didn't lose by hundreds. He lost by thousands and in some states, tens of thousands. Sidney Powell would basically have to be right in order to justify overturning election margins of that size.
 
OUBubba said:
LEGAL is the key.
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Bubba, I just hope if your side cheats again in the Georgia runoffs, that there’s the common idea out there that nine justices is the correct number. Otherwise it looks like if you lose one game you change the length/width of the football field.
 
Seattle Husker said:
Never go full retard. ;)
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I always wondered why Robert Downey, Jr. (who's pretty white) portraying an Australian guy who's portraying a black guy (and very believably so) never caused much controversy. Even at the time, I thought it would, but for whatever reason, nobody seemed very offended at it.
 
zuckercanyon said:
Bubba, I just hope if your side cheats again in the Georgia runoffs, that there’s the common idea out there that nine justices is the correct number. Otherwise it looks like if you lose one game you change the length/width of the football field.
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I hope they win the Georgia election like they did this one, by getting more votes.

I'm not a court packer. I think it's a nuclear option. More importantly, Biden isn't either. That said, 9 justices is arbitrary based upon the number of federal court districts at the time (that was the justification at that time, if I remember correctly). There are 13 federal court districts now. HMMMM. :)
 
OUBubba said:
I hope they win the Georgia election like they did this one, by getting more votes.

I'm not a court packer. I think it's a nuclear option. More importantly, Biden isn't either. That said, 9 justices is arbitrary based upon the number of federal court districts at the time (that was the justification at that time, if I remember correctly). There are 13 federal court districts now. HMMMM. :)
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Bubba, now you're gonna make me THINK!
US Court of Appeals and District Court map - United States district court - Wikipedia

So we've had 9 justices since 1869, with only FDR trying to pack the court when things didn't go his way.

Just did some research, there's some arguments for 27 justices so they could hear more cases.

I think the current number is fine, because it's an odd number, so no ties as long as there is 9. I think increasing justices to accommodate a cause is wrong. I also think creating more justices to hear more cases just helps lawyers and opens the gates for more litigation at the national level (hear more cases). Texas and OU play 4 overtimes and someone wins. Then the referee's call goes all the way up the chain so one of the 27 justices can be the tie breaker on who really won.
 
zuckercanyon said:
Bubba, now you're gonna make me THINK!
US Court of Appeals and District Court map - United States district court - Wikipedia

So we've had 9 justices since 1869, with only FDR trying to pack the court when things didn't go his way.

Just did some research, there's some arguments for 27 justices so they could hear more cases.

I think the current number is fine, because it's an odd number, so no ties as long as there is 9. I think increasing justices to accommodate a cause is wrong. I also think creating more justices to hear more cases just helps lawyers and opens the gates for more litigation at the national level (hear more cases). Texas and OU play 4 overtimes and someone wins. Then the referee's call goes all the way up the chain so one of the 27 justices can be the tie breaker on who really won.
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I don't disagree with anything you just said. WTF?
 
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