If you think California is bad, check out Mississippi

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Chop

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I keep hearing how bad California sucks these days, and the reports appear to be accurate.

Then, the next thing that's said is that California's state policies have created the sorry mess that they are in.

Therefore, the other States should take note, and (1) not follow the obviously failed policies of California, and (2) enact policies counter or opposite to those of California.

Ok.

But, I've found a state that sucks a whole lot worse than even California -- Mississippi. Mississippi is usually dead last in everything from poverty to education to healthcare to maternal death rates, etc. By almost every objective criterion, MIssissippi sucks worse than any State in the Union, and it's not even close.

So, the logical thing for the other States to do is to take note, and (1) not follow the obviously failed policies of Mississippi, and (2) enact policies counter or opposite to those of Mississippi.
 
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mississippitoday.org

How Mississippi's tax structure favors the wealthy and hurts the poor

Mississippi’s low-wage earners pay a greater percentage of their income in state and local taxes than do the state’s more affluent residents.
mississippitoday.org mississippitoday.org

"Mississippi has the nation’s lowest per capita income at $46,248 annually and the highest percentage of people living in poverty at 18.2%." (that means they're the worst at personal income and poverty...)
 
mississippitoday.org

How Mississippi's tax structure favors the wealthy and hurts the poor

Mississippi’s low-wage earners pay a greater percentage of their income in state and local taxes than do the state’s more affluent residents.
mississippitoday.org mississippitoday.org

"Mississippi’s low-wage earners pay a greater percentage of their income in state and local taxes than do the state’s more affluent residents."

Gotta avoid the Mississippian policies so you don't end up sucking like Mississippi.

- so to avoid being like dead-last Mississippi, other States should ensure their high-wage earners pay a greater % of their income in state and local taxes than the low-wage earners.
 
"The study shows the income tax is the only tax that requires wealthy Mississippians to pay more than the poor. Gov. Tate Reeves wants to eliminate the income tax. The personal income tax already has been cut twice in recent years. In addition, multiple tax cuts for businesses also have been enacted or are being phased in."

Mississippi likes tax cuts. Better not do that and end up like Mississippi--DEAD LAST.
 
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Looks like Mississippi is a right to work state.

I wonder if there's something we can take from that fact...?
 
Chop said:
I keep hearing how bad California sucks these days, and the reports appear to be accurate.

Then, the next thing that's said is that California's state policies have created the sorry mess that they are in.

Therefore, the other States should take note, and (1) not follow the obviously failed policies of California, and (2) enact policies counter or opposite to those of California.

Ok.

But, I've found a state that sucks a whole lot worse than even California -- Mississippi. Mississippi is usually dead last in everything from poverty to education to healthcare to maternal death rates, etc. By almost every objective criterion, MIssissippi sucks worse than any State in the Union, and it's not even close.

So, the logical thing for the other States to do is to take note, and (1) not follow the obviously failed policies of Mississippi, and (2) enact policies counter or opposite to those of Mississippi.
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I hate to burst your bubble but in terms of education you are wrong:

magnoliatribune.com

Mississippi reaches new heights in education according to latest national child well-being assessment

The 2024 KIDS COUNT Data Book shows Mississippi's education ranking is now 30th in the nation, up two spots from last year and nine places from 2022.
magnoliatribune.com magnoliatribune.com
 
mchammer said:
I hate to burst your bubble but in terms of education you are wrong:

magnoliatribune.com

Mississippi reaches new heights in education according to latest national child well-being assessment

The 2024 KIDS COUNT Data Book shows Mississippi's education ranking is now 30th in the nation, up two spots from last year and nine places from 2022.
magnoliatribune.com magnoliatribune.com
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This is a very recent phenomenon - Miss doing better in education. They must be doing something different than 10 years ago. What changed?
 
Chop said:
mississippitoday.org

How Mississippi's tax structure favors the wealthy and hurts the poor

Mississippi’s low-wage earners pay a greater percentage of their income in state and local taxes than do the state’s more affluent residents.
mississippitoday.org mississippitoday.org

"Mississippi has the nation’s lowest per capita income at $46,248 annually and the highest percentage of people living in poverty at 18.2%." (that means they're the worst at personal income and poverty...)
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It’s a well-known fact that the average pay in Mississippi is lower than that of most other states. However, did you know that the state is extremely generous? Actually, if you take a look at the Catalogue of Philanthropy’s "Generosity Index," you'll notice that Mississippi happens to be the most charitable state.
 
Chop said:
This is a very recent phenomenon - Miss doing better in education. They must be doing something different than 10 years ago. What changed?
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Maybe the policies you were criticizing
 
mchammer said:
Maybe the policies you were criticizing
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What educational policies? Specifically?

Miss went from dragging the rear in education (or very close to it) to a bit below average in less than 10 years. They must have changed something. What did they change?

They're still the worst in poverty and most other human development facts.
 
Chop said:
I keep hearing how bad California sucks these days, and the reports appear to be accurate.

Then, the next thing that's said is that California's state policies have created the sorry mess that they are in.

Therefore, the other States should take note, and (1) not follow the obviously failed policies of California, and (2) enact policies counter or opposite to those of California.

Ok.

But, I've found a state that sucks a whole lot worse than even California -- Mississippi. Mississippi is usually dead last in everything from poverty to education to healthcare to maternal death rates, etc. By almost every objective criterion, MIssissippi sucks worse than any State in the Union, and it's not even close.

So, the logical thing for the other States to do is to take note, and (1) not follow the obviously failed policies of Mississippi, and (2) enact policies counter or opposite to those of Mississippi.
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You are also dead wrong about poverty rate as the census bureau doesn’t account for cost of living. Read more here:

calmatters.org

California keeps its title as having the nation's highest poverty rate

California has retained its position as having the worst poverty of any state, thanks to its very high living costs.
calmatters.org calmatters.org
 
The former, based on formula several decades old, involves only a few basic factors and applies them to all states, regardless of their economic and sociological differences.

Economists consider the official rates to be misleading because of their simplistic factors, but they remain in the law because they are the basis for many federal and state programs.
 
Chop said:
What educational policies? Specifically?
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I suggest you read the article I provided. Second, since you are the one throwing out unsubstantiated allegations, I suggest you research it yourself.
 
www.fcnl.org

Top 10 Poorest States in the U.S. | Friends Committee On National Legislation

According to the U.S. Census Bureau, the national poverty rate was 12.4% in 2022, up from 11.2% in 2021. These states have the highest percentages of poverty in the country: Mississippi, Louisiana, West Virginia, New Mexico, Arkansas, Kentucky, Alabama, Oklahoma, Texas, and New York.
www.fcnl.org www.fcnl.org

en.wikipedia.org

List of U.S. states and territories by poverty rate - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org en.wikipedia.org

bestdiplomats.org

Top 12 Poorest States In America in 2024

Explore the top poorest states in America. Learn about key factors impacting these regions' economic challenges and growth opportunities.
bestdiplomats.org bestdiplomats.org


www.census.gov

Most States Had Lower Official Poverty Rates in 2019-2021 Than a Decade Earlier

A new Census Bureau historical table shows that 40 states and the District of Columbia had lower official poverty rates in 2019-2021 than in 2009-2011.
www.census.gov www.census.gov
 
Chop said:
www.fcnl.org

Top 10 Poorest States in the U.S. | Friends Committee On National Legislation

According to the U.S. Census Bureau, the national poverty rate was 12.4% in 2022, up from 11.2% in 2021. These states have the highest percentages of poverty in the country: Mississippi, Louisiana, West Virginia, New Mexico, Arkansas, Kentucky, Alabama, Oklahoma, Texas, and New York.
www.fcnl.org www.fcnl.org

en.wikipedia.org

List of U.S. states and territories by poverty rate - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org en.wikipedia.org

bestdiplomats.org

Top 12 Poorest States In America in 2024

Explore the top poorest states in America. Learn about key factors impacting these regions' economic challenges and growth opportunities.
bestdiplomats.org bestdiplomats.org


www.census.gov

Most States Had Lower Official Poverty Rates in 2019-2021 Than a Decade Earlier

A new Census Bureau historical table shows that 40 states and the District of Columbia had lower official poverty rates in 2019-2021 than in 2009-2011.
www.census.gov www.census.gov
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None of those are the official sources.
 
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