See, letting in a million syrian migrants in a short period of time was extreme.
It was, and obviously that's not the kind of extreme action I advocate. I think that's insane.
Correct me if I am wrong Deez, but it is my understanding Turkish migration was gradual over time, the Turks came from a secular/westernized society, the Turks have at least partially assimilated and there were/are some problems but their migration was a net positive for Germany (and Germans love Döner now).
It was relatively gradual. It started in the 1960s, had some spikes and some reductions over time, but about 55 years after the migration started, they have about 4 million ethnic Turks. They have mostly assimilated. Most of them speak German fluently (and many speak English pretty well), dress like Europeans, and though they're associated with the döner kebap cafes, they work in pretty every type of profession now. And you're correct. They came from the most Westernized and most secular Islamic country in the world, and since moving to Germany, most of them have become even more secular, though they still identify as Muslim and attend mosque. The bottom line is that they came from a place that wasn't radicalized, and they haven't radicalized here.
And yes, ethnic Germans love döner. It's kinda remarkable to walk or drive by the döner place in my village and see it dominated by a bunch of white people. The guy who runs it is a Turk, but he's so assimilated that when I walked in there, not only do I hear him speaking perfect German to customers, he has even picked up the tricks for spotting an American. When I walked in the first time, he immediately said to me in excellent English, "what can I get for you?" I've actually never had the food. It smells great, but it's all dark meat chicken, which I generally don't eat, but if it's hot outside, I'll buy a drink in there.
In less than 2 years, a million Syrians coming from a unstable land with no experience in democracy that overpopulated and created ISIS just showed up in Germany. That is extreme! That is not normal or how immigration is supposed to work anywhere. Extreme measures (like sealing off the border or deportations) would be okay with dealing with the crisis.
You're right, and keep in mind that the Syrians are the most secular group that's coming in. Remember, you have the refugees, but you have just as many or more "migrants" who aren't refugees and aren't from Syria. The Syrian Civil War is the pretext, but it's not the whole story. Hordes of people are flooding Germany from all over the Middle East and North Africa, and they're less Westernized and more radical than the Syrians are.
They are doing deportations of people who are denied asylum. The problem is that you have to find them. It's like deporting illegal immigrants from the US. It makes infinitely more sense to not let them in UNLESS they are granted asylum. Nevertheless, border security gets complicated because of the Schengen Agreement. Once a "migrant" gets into the EU, he can get to Germany, so you have to secure a continent, not a country. To secure the EU, they'd have to secure Greece and the Mediterranean Sea. The corridors aren't that broad, and it wouldn't be that hard to do it. However, somebody has to want to do it, and they don't.
The problem is, I do not think most Germans realize that the issue is not racism (see the Turks), the issue is that this massive flood of migrants was an extreme event. The Germans seem to treat it like something that is normal and doesnt not require an extreme (or even moderate) response. All that said, Trump is president, the EU may break up, the Cubs won the World Series... we will just have to wait and see how it plays out.
Of course it's not racism. That's just a political weapon like it is in the United States. It's a cultural issue. The German people know it's not normal, but they feel powerless to stop it. Powerful interests support it, and political leftists benefit from it. Furthermore, anyone who criticizes or is remotely skeptical of it gets slandered as a hater and a neo-Nazi. With that kind of political atmosphere, it's very hard to have a sane discussion.
