Forensic Audit in Maricopa County, AZ
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OUBubba
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Is that Abrams or any other current Dem making statements?
Seattle Husker
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The idea that illegals, who are scared of being discovered and deported, are voting in significant numbers illegally doesn't seem logical. Not sure what things are like in Tennessee but in Washington schools have to chase the children of illegal immigrants to be in school and the parents are like ghosts with no real contact info per my wife who worked in a few Title 1 schools (low-income).
Generally speaking, illegal immigrants go to great pains to avoid being documented and potentially discovered. Sure, they'll walk into the emergency room in an emergency situation but I can't imagine they are willingly signing up for government benefits.
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The gospel was written by those who do not speak today; only their acolytes and apostles. Those who now speak as an apparent heretic have surely received the blessing of political relativism and expediency; similar to Catholics who facilitate the death of viable babies in the womb.
OUBubba
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Or coming around after critically examining the fact set?
It depends on the benefits and how long they've been in the US. They're aren't going to try to get traditional welfare or housing assistance. They'll find ways to get by without government cash and housing. However, they eventually learn what they can actually qualify for and what they can't. It's usually essential stuff that can't be gotten any other way and usually involve children.
For example, when women get pregnant, they pretty regularly sign up for Medicaid. They generally aren't having babies at home or storming the ER at the time of childbirth. They usually can't keep Medicaid after the baby is born (though the baby can). After children are born, they'll often sign up for WIC to help cover food costs.
If they come down with a major medical condition that requires non-ER care, they'll sometimes hit up local programs that they know to be illegal immigrant-friendly like the MAP program in Travis County.
Their US born children can vote, which is the goal, right? Funny thing happening in Texas with Mexicans starting to lean Republican. Ooops....
That is the whole reason Democrats have become pro-illegal immigration. It's not to get the actual illegal immigrants to vote fraudulently. If they get a little of that, they'll take it, but they're playing the long game and want their kids.
I suspect that is Mexican-Americans - middle class Latinos who are long time Texans who used to be part of the Democratic working class coalition. The cultural nuttiness is turning them off like it did with the white working class. The actual children of illegal immigrants are probably still voting Democratic like most recent immigrants from the third world.
The illegal immigrants or their kids shouldn’t be allowed to vote (or be granted citizenship for the former) until they pay a fine, and a large one at that (say $10k).
The actual illegal immigrants? I agree. The kids born in the United States? That's nonsense.
He may be right, but that doesn't address what votes were counted, and from where they came.
I wonder how Joe Biden would respond.
I'm not worried about the illegals voting themselves; but the long game is to get them on the census to garner more electoral college votes. Would that swing Texas to the Left? Maybe. It just depends if Texans still vote Republican as a majority in the Presidential election. But the more illegals that come over, the culture of Texas on the ground, even in non-voting circles becomes more and more vocal for Liberal "solutions." The noise might swing more of those Chardonnay whites to vote Democrat.
Seattle Husker
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Yeah, the best way to commit Fraud is to do so publicly by admitting a mistake was made thereby bringing more scrutiny.
Like Antrim County, they ****** up and someone should be held accountable for such a grievous mistake. Ranked Choice voting certainly doesn't simplify the vote tabulation process.
Yeah, the best way to commit Fraud is to do so publicly by admitting a mistake was made thereby bringing more scrutiny.
Like Antrim County, they ****** up and someone should be held accountable for such a grievous mistake. Ranked Choice voting certainly doesn't simplify the vote tabulation process.
I read an article yesterday chronicling Mr. Adams' complaints about how the vote totals had suddenly cut deeply into his lead.
Seattle Husker
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Adams is the current leader so I'm sure he'll do everything to cajole the Elections Board to ensure he remains the leader. In close elections, that's common. It doesn't matter if the race is for POTUS (See Bush v Gore) or local dog catcher. From what I've read they haven't even announced the absentee ballot additions.
Though I support Ranked Choice Voting, it's not an easy process to administer nor a timely process in a climate accustomed to results being announced on election day.
I seem to remember that the absentee ballots weren't in the totals. I'm going to look up ranked choice voting. I'd never heard of it until yesterday.
It just caught my eye because it was a Democrat complaining about massive swings in the count, just like Republicans did during the Presidential election.
Seattle Husker
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Here is NYC's explanation of how they implemented Ranked Choice Voting.
I like it because it removes the "binary" choice voting has become. Rather than R or D suddenly a 3rd candidate (or party) has a chance. It removes the need to settle just to avoid the other party getting into office. Example: in 2016 I didn't prefer HRC but I saw massive flaws in Trump so I begrudgingly held my nose and voted for HRC. In a Ranked Choice voting I could have registered my protest vote for Gary Johnson and still had HRC as choice #2. Then, if HRC prevails she'd need to govern without the mandate of my vote (and others) initially. It removes the argument that someone "threw away" their vote by going 3rd party.
NYC Mayoral Race Front-Runners File Lawsuits Demanding Potential Recount
"The three remaining contenders in New York City’s Democratic mayoral primary have all filed lawsuits demanding a potential recount of the June 22 ranked-choice election vote, the winner of which has still not been determined."
Bystander says: It is now commonplace that elections in America have the same validity as elections in Venezuela. There is no sense of anything except ruthless ambition and Machiavellian rationalization that the moral imperative of the virtuously signaled platform demands.
"The three remaining contenders in New York City’s Democratic mayoral primary have all filed lawsuits demanding a potential recount of the June 22 ranked-choice election vote, the winner of which has still not been determined."
Bystander says: It is now commonplace that elections in America have the same validity as elections in Venezuela. There is no sense of anything except ruthless ambition and Machiavellian rationalization that the moral imperative of the virtuously signaled platform demands.
I swear this idiocy has got to stop. Flat out lying freely on social media while other opinions are being censored and accounts banned.
She is free enough to write that garbage. As far as stolen land, if she gives her stolen land back, I'll consider doing the same.
She’s a slave to a failed ideology.
Is there anything more tired than progressives saying the land was stolen? It's an unbelievably stupid argument that will only ensure a Republican majority in the next election. I hope the entire country reads her words.
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