Forensic Audit in Maricopa County, AZ

[Seattle Husker]

I knew I shouldn't have unignored this thread. Could you point out where I said that?

Pulling all your quotes on diminishing the importance of audit experience to justify Cyber Ninjas being chosen as the lead auditor. All of your posts were claiming either experience didn't matter or it doesn't exist. Now we know that auditors submitted RFP's with Intersec including CyFir in their bid.

Karen Fann won't share any information on how she landed on Cyber Ninjas, only that Logan had supported Sidney Powell and Lin Wood lawsuits and that they had zero experience in election auditing. The only thing we know is that $150k was the bid that was accepted by the AZ Senate and that more $$$ would be needed and raised by private means, thus OAN and other random conspiracy guys raising money (eg. the Overstock founder).

It doesn't take any experience in running an election in order to audit. Counting isn't hard. It's not rocket science.

Let's face it. No one has experience at doing an election audit of this size. No one.

These are professional companies. They were hired for their knowledge of voting machines. No one has experience in what is being currently done. The two companies you mention are primarily accounting audit firms. Btw, did these two companies you mentioned put in a bid to do this work?

Nobody has any experience at doing anything at this massive of a scale, especially when it comes to physical ballots.

 

[Garmel]

Pulling all your quotes on diminishing the importance of audit experience to justify Cyber Ninjas being chosen as the lead auditor. All of your posts were claiming either experience didn't matter or it doesn't exist. Now we know that auditors submitted RFP's with Intersec including CyFir in their bid.

Karen Fann won't share any information on how she landed on Cyber Ninjas, only that Logan had supported Sidney Powell and Lin Wood lawsuits and that they had zero experience in election auditing. The only thing we know is that $150k was the bid that was accepted by the AZ Senate and that more $$$ would be needed and raised by private means, thus OAN and other random conspiracy guys raising money (eg. the Overstock founder).

Stating that no one having real experience is a lot different than saying, 'but I wasn't the one who claimed there weren't any auditors with election audit experience open to taking it on defending the selection of Cyber Ninjas."

 

[Seattle Husker]

Stating that no one having real experience is a lot different than saying, 'but I wasn't the one who claimed there weren't any auditors with election audit experience open to taking it on defending the selection of Cyber Ninjas."

I was summarizing the full context of the conversation but if you want to rever to claiming "no one having any real experience" be my guest because that's fiction.

 

[Garmel]

I was summarizing the full context of the conversation but if you want to rever to claiming "no one having any real experience" be my guest because that's fiction.

It's not fiction. No one is doing what's been done here in the States. Point to me where a combination of machines being analyzed along with physical ballots being checked out on this scale. I'll wait.

 

[Garmel]

I was summarizing the full context of the conversation but if you want to rever to claiming "no one having any real experience" be my guest because that's fiction.

No, what happened was you got caught again with your atrocious reading comprehension skills.

 

[Seattle Husker]

It's not fiction. No one is doing what's been done here in the States. Point to me where a combination of machines being analyzed along with physical ballots being checked out on this scale. I'll wait.

Nobody has ever done a hand recount? Nobody has ever audited the machines? Both of those have been done many times before.

Testing for Bamboo residue and using ultra violet lights for non-existent watermarks? I'll give you that. Nobody's been crazy enough to chace conspiracy theories. So you're essentially saying they HAD to bring in the crazies to test for crazy theories using private money that believes those theories because no reputable firm has experience doing that? We agree. That's what I've been saying all along.

 

[Garmel]

Nobody has ever done a hand recount? Nobody has ever audited the machines? Both of those have been done many times before.

Testing for Bamboo residue and using ultra violet lights for non-existent watermarks? I'll give you that. Nobody's been crazy enough to chace conspiracy theories. So you're essentially saying they HAD to bring in the crazies to test for crazy theories using private money that believes those theories because no reputable firm has experience doing that? We agree. That's what I've been saying all along.

LOL! This is more than a hand recount. The reason why they're looking at possible foreign ballots is because witnesses in Arizona reported odd feeling ballots. Does that mean they're from China? No. More than likely xeroxed ones which the audit will pick up. Maybe there's nothing there. Who knows? Oh Lord, here we go with the conspiracy **** again. Do you want to go back and check all of the stuff you said were conspiracy theories that came up true? Why didn't you respond to me debunking your idiotic Grifter or Auditor article? Cat got your tongue?

 

[AC]

Most of the claimed conspiracy theories are slowly coming true. That will include a new emergency election at some point. In the US!

 

[Garmel]

Liberals in 2020- there's no evidence of election fraud
Liberals in 2021 -*when election evidence is found* Those grifter, amateur auditors are trying to steal the election!

 

[Garmel]

Most of the claimed conspiracy theories are slowly coming true. That will include a new emergency election at some point. In the US!

Makes me wonder if I do a search on Husker's past posts will I catch him calling the lab theory for Covid a conspiracy theory?

 

[Garmel]

With that I'm putting him back on ignore. Only way to keep my sanity.

 

[AC]

Me too, I un-ignored him a week ago maybe. Mistake.

 

[Sangre Naranjada]

Less voting is great for the GOP

It is actually great for the country as a whole. There are a lot of young and really ignorant people out there who vote like it's a high school student council popularity contest. The fewer of them who turn out, the better for everybody.

 

[Horn6721]

Garm
Facts always seem to bite lefties in the azz.

 

[Seattle Husker]

LOL! This is more than a hand recount. The reason why they're looking at possible foreign ballots is because witnesses in Arizona reported odd feeling ballots. Does that mean they're from China? No. More than likely xeroxed ones which the audit will pick up. Maybe there's nothing there. Who knows? Oh Lord, here we go with the conspiracy **** again.

Yes, typically we don't start multi-million dollar privately funded investigations for public elections on anecdotal references like "odd feeling ballots" from partisan sources. It's absolutely batshit crazy that I even have to type that sentence. As an aside, have you ever seen a ballot with out some sore of Ballot ID on it? Do you think Maricopa County knows which ballot IDs were used?

Do you want to go back and check all of the stuff you said were conspiracy theories that came up true? Why didn't you respond to me debunking your idiotic Grifter or Auditor article? Cat got your tongue?

Feel free to hold me accountable. Unlike you, I don't feel the need to deflect to avoid my own accountability. In this thread alone you've missed badly on the County Supervisors being Republican dominated and now have been proven misguided when you defended Cyber Ninjas based solely on the premise experienced auditors hadn't bid for this work and/or didn't have the right experience.

 

[OUBubba]

Yes, typically we don't start multi-million dollar privately funded investigations for public elections on anecdotal references like "odd feeling ballots" from partisan sources. It's absolutely batshit crazy that I even have to type that sentence. As an aside, have you ever seen a ballot with out some sore of Ballot ID on it? Do you think Maricopa County knows which ballot IDs were used?



Feel free to hold me accountable. Unlike you, I don't feel the need to deflect to avoid my own accountability. In this thread alone you've missed badly on the County Supervisors being Republican dominated and now have been proven misguided when you defended Cyber Ninjas based solely on the premise experienced auditors hadn't bid for this work and/or didn't have the right experience.

So, how much are the ghost hunters going to make on this thing?

 

[Seattle Husker]

So, how much are the ghost hunters going to make on this thing?

The ghost hunters won't say but emphasize they are focused on transparency. We do know that OAN raised $150k in a single day. It doesn't take a rocket scientist to see that the cost of the event center, paid staff amidst 4 different firms working over the course of 8-10 weeks and you can easily estimate the audit to be multiple millions. Think the donors gave money to put the conspiracy theories to be or feed them?

 

[Seattle Husker]

So, how much are the ghost hunters going to make on this thing?

The Heritage foundation is the thought leader and typically the legislation author behind most of the conservative state voter suppression laws being implemented. Look at #3 of their Election Integrity voting rights proposal.

Partisan funding of election activities achieves partisan results.

 

[huisache]

I agree with the right wingers on one thing for sure: the less people voting, the better for us all. We got Washington, Adams and Jefferson in order when only white male property owners could vote.

Now we get duds like Biden, Trump and Obama when massive numbers vote. And Clinton and W.

We are now letting in massive numbers of people from central america and Haiti; now there are some places that know how to elect real candidates of genius. And practical, too.

 

[OUBubba]

I agree with the right wingers on one thing for sure: the less people voting, the better for us all. We got Washington, Adams and Jefferson in order when only white male property owners could vote.

Now we get duds like Biden, Trump and Obama when massive numbers vote. And Clinton and W.

We are now letting in massive numbers of people from central america and Haiti; now there are some places that know how to elect real candidates of genius. And practical, too.

Those are David Duke talking points there.

 

[OUBubba]

POLL: Most Republicans Think Trump is the True President

He said that the '16 election was going to be rigged. Then was shocked when he won.

Trump is going to burn the USA to the ground. Good job people!

 

[humahuma]

No, the libs and Antifa will try to burn this country down. I already stated that most people who voted for Trump think Biden won an unfair election. And each individual came up with that thought independently. It will be an interesting July.

 

[AC]

Trump is trying to save America. Biden, Obama and the central banks have tried to burn it down.
Mount Rushmore. That’s how good Trump was for one term. Now he’s starting over.

 

[Horn6721]

Let me ask a question
Do those of you who think there was no election fraud , including the Never Trumpers
Do you honestly believe Biden got 81 million votes?

 

[humahuma]

81 million legal votes

 

[OUBubba]

Trump trying to do anything for anyone other than himself is laughable. His kids will go by the wayside at some point.

 

[OUBubba]

No, the libs and Antifa will try to burn this country down. I already stated that most people who voted for Trump think Biden won an unfair election. And each individual came up with that thought independently. It will be an interesting July.

Trump said prior to the last two elections that if he lost it was because they cheated. What a *****.

 

[iatrogenic]

Trump trying to do anything for anyone other than himself is laughable. His kids will go by the wayside at some point.

I guess you missed the unemployment numbers before Covid.

 

[humahuma]

Trump said prior to the last two elections that if he lost it was because they cheated. What a *****.

Well the 2020 election they did cheat. But let’s wait. People listen but they see other disturbing evidence, sending people home but still counting “votes “ just one example. You think everyone follows Trump blindly that’s not true but you can believe it. It is probably 10% just like every a hole college football fan.

 

[OUBubba]

Trump said prior to the last two elections that if he lost it was because they cheated. What a *****.

Well the 2020 election they did cheat. But let’s wait. People listen but they see other disturbing evidence, sending people home but still counting “votes “ just one example. You think everyone follows Trump blindly that’s not true but you can believe it. It is probably 10% just like every a hole college football fan.

His base is a solid 35%. And by solid, I mean he could screw a 14 year old on Starz and that wouldn’t waiver. They’d call it fake news.