For Real ....Herman “IS” Done!!!

Big B said:
In all of college football history, I don't recall a situation where a coach with Meyer's pedigree of success has been available and desirous of working at a particular school. This isn't a once in a century opportunity, it is an unheard of, unprecedented opportunity. To not hire Meyer now is inconceivable, Herman or no.
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First time poster.....Like a Boss :hookem:
 
One of the things that has bugged me about this process is never seemed like we would get a new coach in place in order to save our recruiting, which has imploded.

But there may be a saving grace with the one-time covid-related transfer portal rules. It's a unique situation and could create a real talent smorgasbord for Meyer and Texas to exploit. We could really mop up. Lucky timing I guess.
 
Joe Fan said:
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While I want Urb with the associated baggage (and I plan to hold my breath), if money is the stumbling block, that changes things for me. I didn’t like the extortionists in the summer, and don’t like it with UM...if that is the case.

If he doesn’t see the significance to his legacy of bringing a blueblood program back to prominence, that would be troubling. In other words, if it’s mostly about the money, let someone else pay him 50 Mil guaranteed.

While Urb is clearly the best choice to bring the program back, he is NOT the only choice. Mack was tired. Charlie was over his head and we all miscalculated with Herman. But that doesn’t mean that we would miss with someone else, perhaps like Campbell.

But again, UM is the first choice. But not as a mercenary.
 
If the deal cannot be done with Urban Meyer, then I am for firing Herman and letting Yurich or Ash play HC next year.

I do not think that Matt Campbell is a good choice. Really good coach? Definitely, but not for Texas. Besides, Michigan is already in discussions.

Mario Cristobal is a horrible choice, and not a very good coach.

Bob Stoops is enjoying retirement too much, and doesn't want the headaches that are Texas football. OU had a handful of BMDs that he had to deal with, and Dr Boren controlled all of those. Texas has many more, none of whom have "buffers".

In my lifetime (which is long), I cannot recall a time when the coaching pool was so empty. We have moved from the weekly special to the daily special; I'd rather not proceed to the hourly special.

The most impatient person on this board is telling y'all to be patient and trust Chris

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Joe Fan said:
One of the things that has bugged me about this process is never seemed like we would get a new coach in place in order to save our recruiting, which has imploded.

But there may be a saving grace with the one-time covid-related transfer portal rules. It's a unique situation and could create a real talent smorgasbord for Meyer and Texas to exploit. We could really mop up. Lucky timing I guess.
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I'll take Charlie Brewer for a year...
 
EDT said:
LH,
The Horn's haven't been the "TEAM" since TH went WOKE.
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The incorrigibles who challenged The University and threatened not to play are as much of the reason for the teams downfall as that of Herman’s coaching decisions. They hurt the team with their inflated self importance and turned the fans off. If Tom does not learn from this he will fail everywhere he goes. The coach has to be in charge and players MUST not get away with threats that harm the team. Duane Thomas, Hollywood Henderson and others found out real quick who was in charge when they crossed Landry. If Herman needs to know what to do he can study the likes of Landry, Lombardi, Ditka and others who understood the role of the head coach.

I would have invited those players into my office one at a time, shut the door and it would be a meeting they would never forget. Get in line or get out. Not Tom. He sucked up and let the inmates run the asylum. Those bad seeds should not have been allowed to poison the team, and the season. As I have said before on this forum, a coach needs to deal with players from a position of strength and he has the power at his disposal, from “riding the pine” to dismissal. You don’t command love, you command respect.

These malcontent players can take some of the credit for the firing of their coach. The one who loved on them and supported their misguided and juvenile behavior. They got what they deserved this season. Unfortunately a lot of good players were hurt as well. Good riddance to the bad seeds when they are gone!
 
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If it’s a given that Tom is gone, and if we can’t get our top choice or a close second choice, then I’d be for keeping one of the coordinators as an interim HC, maybe bring Robinson back in as an interim DC. Something to get us through next year while mitigating the damages. What we don’t want to do is hire #3, 4, or 5 on the list and sign him to a long multi year $$$ deal
 
Chop said:
If it’s a given that Tom is gone, and if we can’t get our top choice or a close second choice, then I’d be for keeping one of the coordinators as an interim HC, maybe bring Robinson back in as an interim DC. Something to get us through next year while mitigating the damages. What we don’t want to do is hire #3, 4, or 5 on the list and sign him to a long multi year $$$ deal
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I don't think this works. Will kill recruiting for 2 years. The money that a good program brings in is crazy. Aggs got them a good coach and see where they are headed. Least in the right direction. And that's with a crap QB. I don't care if you have to pay UM $12M just get him signed for 5 years and move on so we can start to rebuild this dumpster fire.
 
Chinstrap said:
The incorrigibles who challenged The University and threatened not to play are as much of the reason for the teams downfall as that of Herman’s coaching decisions. They hurt the team with their inflated self importance and turned the fans off. If Tom does not learn from this he will fail everywhere he goes. The coach has to be in charge and players MUST not get away with threats that harm the team. Duane Thomas, Hollywood Henderson and others found out real quick who was in charge when they crossed Landry. If Herman needs to know what to do he can study the likes of Landry, Lombardi, Ditka and others who understood the role of the head coach.

I would have invited those players into my office one at a time, shut the door and it would be a meeting they would never forget. Get in line or get out. Not Tom. He sucked up and let the inmates run the asylum. Those bad seeds should not have been allowed to poison the team, and the season. As I have said before on this forum, a coach needs to deal with players from a position of strength and he has the power at his disposal, from “riding the pine” to dismissal. You don’t command love, you command respect.

These malcontent players can take some of the credit for the firing of their coach. The one who loved on them and supported their misguided and juvenile behavior. They got what they deserved this season. Unfortunately a lot of good players were hurt as well. Good riddance to the bad seeds when they are gone!
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100% agree and have stated the same. The tail does not wag the dog. When the inmates started running the asylum and alienated a lot of the fans, the writing was on the wall. TH cannot recover this because he is the problem and let it define who he is.
 
Joe Fan said:
Even the transgender, associate director for audience at the Texas Tribune is taking shots at Tom

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I despise this^^^^ kind of stuff. Pass/fail freebies?!?.....What a soft lot we've become.
Bout to bring out the Irish "cursing" in me.

Oh well..back to football-related "cursing"..
 
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