For Real ....Herman “IS” Done!!!

EDT said:
How many of our players stayed after the game for the Eyes?
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The team was still out on the field as they started The Eyes within a minute after the game ended. Players were shaking hands but they tried to stand at midfield, not as organized as after WV. There also seemed to be some players needing to get separated, surprised I didn't see anything about that. I saw BJ Foster being held back by some players and didn't see who the Iowa State player was.
 
Win said:
The team was still out on the field as they started The Eyes within a minute after the game ended. Players were shaking hands but they tried to stand at midfield, not as organized as after WV. There also seemed to be some players needing to get separated, surprised I didn't see anything about that. I saw BJ Foster being held back by some players and didn't see who the Iowa State player was.
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I sit in section 13 up from the player exit. Coburn and Josh Moore immediately left before the Eyes and a number 0 and 5 immediately left as well together. I assumed it was Black and Bijan but didn’t look closely could have been Overshawn and Jamison. Got the real feeling today this team is not united. Units and players spread out on the sidelines not huddled together. Even when Dicker was lined up for the final kick you didn’t see any players standing or kneeling arm in arm ala Justin Tuckers kick or Phil Dawson vs VA. As mentioned above there was a scuffle postgame toward the South End Zone. I assume BJ wanted to show he could tackle their tight end since our safeties weren’t able to do it all game.
 
bystander said:
If money was no object, I'd say Herman would be gone. If winning is what it takes to turn recruiting around, it will almost a year before we see real evidence of that. The only thing that can be done is either believe in Herman for the long run, meaning he's growing on the job (smacks of Jerry Jones believing Jason Garrett was growing on the job) or make a huge move now.
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Money is no object. I understand that BMD’s have said they will pay the buyout. CDC is still waiting for $20+ million in pledges for the south end zone that are being withheld. Money is absolutely not on Herman’s side.
 
Urban Meyer gives us a shot in the arm, no doubt. Also brings some unwanted baggage but we are at the point where a little bit of compromising our integrity has to happen. This ship has sunk and some new hot shot won't get the job done. Urban for 4-5 years, then somebody ready to take over, make a name for himself. That's what I'd like to see. Of course, I'll be in my 70s by then. Way things have been going, I might not even care by then.
Today's players? What's the deal? They make a good hit 10 yards downfield and get up and flex their muscles. Back in my day, you went back to the huddle and one of your teammates might have said "good stick". But that's it. Just do your damn job, which is winning the game.
 
The only "up and coming young hot-shot" coach we have EVER done well with was the fellow whose name now adorns the stadium. We hired him more than 60 years ago.

We did a hell of a lot better the last time we hired a seasoned coach with a long, strong track record. I'm much more interested in trying that route again.
 
Here is part of Chip Brown
@SabreHorn - see bolded part

"..... Herman has yet to have a losing record - going 7-6, 10-4, 8-5 and 5-3 - for a winning percentage of .625 (30-18). Despite a 3-0 record in bowl games, including a Sugar Bowl victory over Georgia two years ago, Herman is 1-4 against Oklahoma, 1-3 against TCU and has seven losses as a ranked team against unranked opponents - most in FBS since 2017. Herman’s failure to have his team standing together for the post-game playing of The Eyes of Texas following the TCU and Oklahoma games - which also happened to be suck-the-air-out-of-the-program losses - was a huge sore spot with UT decision-makers, despite any pleas to the contrary.

We’ll soon see if a push by big-money donors to target Herman’s former boss - Urban Meyer - as UT’s next head coach may have accelerated judgment day for Herman. Would Meyer, who won two national titles at Florida (2006, 2008) and one with Herman at Ohio State (2014), be the first choice of first-year Texas president Jay Hartzell and/or athletic director Chris Del Conte?

Del Conte didn’t hire Herman. Former athletic director Mike Perrin and school president Greg Fenves did. And it was Fenves - not Del Conte - who signed off on a two-year contract extension for Herman following the 2018 season, sources told Horns247. “Herman’s agent (Trace Armstrong) went hard after Fenves for that extension following the Sugar Bowl win (over Georgia),” a source close to the situation told Horns247. “Del Conte wanted to wait on it. But he was overruled (by Fenves).”

Thanks to the extension, Herman is set to go from earning $6 million in 2020; to $6.25 million in 2021; $6.5 million in 2022; and $6.75 million in 2023. His contract buyout is $15 million - $5 million for each of the three years left on the contract after this season. Del Conte backed Herman after last year’s disappointing 7-5 regular season and shelled out more than $16 million in guaranteed salaries to Herman’s seven new assistant coaches, including new offensive coordinator Mike Yurcich and new defensive coordinator Chris Ash. Roughly $10.1 million remains on those guaranteed contracts.

It’d cost more than $25 million to buy out Herman and his assistants. It’d probably cost Texas $10 million per year over five to seven years to land Meyer, who is 56, sources told Horns247.com. A source close to Meyer told Horns247 that Meyer might be ready to get back into coaching. That source said Meyer is comfortable and enjoying working for FOX’s Big Noon Kickoff (which has its last episode on Dec. 19), but added, “He’d only consider Texas, USC and Notre Dame.”

Herman had to make hard decisions on Friday. Now, it appears to be the UT administration’s turn. "​
 
The very latest chitter chatter -- impossible to verify

Rumor is TH to get the axe Dec 2*
Our AD has not formally spoken to UM directly, but others have
Contract demands are known - expected to take 8/9 days to work out a deal
Word is he does want the job (contrary to the TFB rumor above^) and wife is on board (daughter is an adult now so not an issue)
The money is available and majority want UM. Still, will be CDC's call

Other names mentioned: Malzahn and Mullen​

Nahlin mentioned elsewhere UM is under contract with Fox until Dec 19
 
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