first Ebola case in the USA confirmed in Dallas

No, it was the fail of the CDC to not enact policies, train medical personell (hospitals) and send people with the knowledge to help contain it. That is what they are for and why they receive large sums of money from the government. Presby only knew to do so much.
 
maybe Frieden could also verify that a strict and universal protocol will be in place at hospitals ASAP, like within the next 24 hours, while they're pulling their collective heads out of their asses and playing Baghdad Bob in press conferences.
 
Apparently the latest nurse/victim flew Frontier Airlines from Cleveland to Dallas just before (hopefully) becoming symptomatic. Wow, how stupid is that? I thought the 70 people who cared for Duncan were being monitored?
 
"Being monitored" doesn't mean under lock and key. It means they had to go in for temperature and throat checks every couple of days. It's not like a sequestered jury or anything.
 
"Being monitored" also shouldn't mean you're free to move about the country, Horns11. Is it too much to ask 40 people to postpone their travel plans for 3 weeks until the potential incubation period has expired? I don't think so.

WFAA in Dallas is reporting that patient 3 was experiencing a mild-grade fever during the timeframe that she was on the plane. So, does it appear that this girl saw her friend get diagnosed and panicked and jumped on the next flight back to Dallas, and potentially expose 135 other passengers because of her poor decision to travel across the country while experiencing primary symptoms of this disease?
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It's astonishing to me that the healthcare workers directly exposed to the patient were not forbidden from air travel. It's just common sense. The CDC was supposed to be Superman in this type of situation - it's the reason they exist. I'm shocked and dismayed to see them acting like a bunch of amateurs.
 
Michtex, per Frieden's comment earlier today, it was the CDC's call and request for all hospital employees on their monitored list to not partake of public transport, i.e. bus, plane, train. They did suggest that driving their own vehicles was ok at the time, so I'd say that puts the onus on the CDC unless Texas can override things like flights outside of it's border.
 
giveemhell,

So why did you edit your post about the federal government and banning interstate travel? I'm not a lawyer, so were you wrong and now you have changed your post so you can bash the CDC from a different angle?
 
better question, Michtex, is why did you insinuate that the CDC/Fed was not responsible for limiting travel for these patients, but instead tried to tie Texas and Perry as the guilty ones?
 
dalhorn1,

Like I said I am not a lawyer, and after I read that article that I linked to it made it sound like that states have more authority in these matters than the federal government. I honestly don't know who is in charge, what authority each level of government has, etc. If those lines of authority aren't clear, it seems like it could make a situation like this worse.
 
Mich, because I ran across that article after I made my original post, and decided Tom Frieden's own words made my case more forcefully than my own.
 
sorry, Michtex, I added tone into your comments. I thought your comment read as if you were on the offensive. My mistake.
 
dalhorn1,

No problem. Thanks for the apology.

When I read that, I thought wow 50 states could be doing 50 different things and that might not be good.
 
The plot thickens. The CDC appears to have given the second infected nurse permission to fly (despite her reporting she had an elevated temperature and despite the fact that she was being "monitored for exposure"), as CBS reports:
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And now they're asking passengers on Frontier 1143 to contact them! That plane had 135 passengers and flew on to 5 more cities. Way to spread it around.

If this were a football game, CDC would have turned the ball over 4 times in the first quarter. Dr. Tom needs to step down and let someone competent take over.
 
Flying the second patient to Atlanta and there's a guy holding a clipboard, without protective gear, getting on the plane with them. Pretty strange, kinda makes you wonder who he is and what in the hell is he doing there....CDC at work
 
On Tuesday, the CDC revised its guidelines for protective gear for health workers treating Ebola patients. The main change is the addition of a hood, which will prevent exposure to the neck area. If you watch this morning's interview of the whistleblower nurse by Matt Lauer, you'll hear that the exposed neck area was a major concern of the nurses at Presby Dallas. It's looking more like a flawed protocol, not a "lapse in protocol" by the nurses. You can see photos comparing the original guidelines to the "new and improved" guidelines here
 
Wait
Didm't the head of the CDC say 2days ago on TV no head covering was needed?

why Yes yes he did.
why does he still have a job?
 
Thursday afternoon brings two potential new cases across the country- one in Lubbock, and one from the Yale/New Haven, CT.
In both stories, the potential cases were said to have been in West Africa recently. There is currently very little being reported on the Lubbock man, other than fever, vomit and diarrhea. The Yale story claims that the patient isolated was in Sierra Leone, but was not near nor came in contact (knowingly) with anyone infected with Ebola.
Would be good to hear that neither case tests positive for Ebola.
 
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