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Oh, and I forgot that this happened, too.
If they one thing really well, it has to be the double standard
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Oh, and I forgot that this happened, too.
We have speech limits here too, right? Can't yell fire in a crowded theater, defamation, etc.
We have gun limits too.
That fact that ProdigalHorn knows who Tommy Robinson is tells a lot about how far right he's traversed since he joined this board.
This article details why Robinson was jailed. He's violated previous court orders not to broadcast trials. It's CENSORSHIP I say...CENSORSHIP! Why would a court not what a trial taped? Maybe to ensure a fair trial for the accused?
I don't condone what he was doing, and I'm not familiar enough with UK law to say whether the judge was out of line or not.
Liberals are so weird
"This woman is awful. Hey, lets give her an award"
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Thank the dark lord that the President hasn't hugged up to people who called other "first daughters" the C-word. http://thehill.com/blogs/in-the-kno...-resurfaces-trump-meeting-with-ted-nugent-who
My point is there is a hierarchy of insults and acceptable responses to them.But if you wanted Roseanne ****-canned, I don't see how you would have much basis to complain. You're calling the guy out who called out your hypocrisy.
Not really defending her, but she did not actually call anyone a monkey. I do not know if you have seen the Planet of the Apes, but the “apes” in those movies are made up creatures that only resemble monkeys, especially in the 70s and 2000 versions....
Dina Powell who also served TrumpI admit I thought she was Iranian/Persian. I guess I confused her with another of Obama's females
My point is there is a hierarchy of insults and acceptable responses to them.
1. Calling someone dumb
2. Calling someone ugly or fat
3. Calling someone a B----
4. Calling someone a C---
5. Dropping a racial epitaph.
6. Comparing someone of African descent to an ape/monkey
Sam Bee and Ted Nugent each called a President's daughter a C. Trump did not call on Nugent to apologize or anything. He did not shun him. He's one of his celebrity supporters.
My point is there is a hierarchy of insults and acceptable responses to them.
1. Calling someone dumb
2. Calling someone ugly or fat
3. Calling someone a B----
4. Calling someone a C---
5. Dropping a racial epitaph.
6. Comparing someone of African descent to an ape/monkey
Sam Bee and Ted Nugent each called a President's daughter a C. Trump did not call on Nugent to apologize or anything. He did not shun him. He's one of his celebrity supporters.
Roseanne did something that I can't come to any comparison. There's this: https://www.timesofisrael.com/crimi...-chief-rabbi-who-called-black-people-monkeys/
And, ironically, he did this after that: https://forward.com/fast-forward/40...y-israeli-rabbi-who-compared-black-people-to/
The reason Trump succeeds is because the media and the left never accurately portray what he says. It is always exaggerated. The same thing happened to Roseanne. While what she said was bad, it is not accurate to say “she called a black person a monkey.” That is an exaggeration to make something that was already bad on its own unnecessarily sound worse. It is why people stop taking the media/the left seriously.
Think about the "missing children" story. Of course, people are losing their minds about that and making it sound like Trump likes when children go missing if they're Mexicans.
My quotation was really about the philosophy that was reflected - the idea that free speech is a gift from the government. You don't have it unless the government allows it, so even if you're only allowed to talk about certain things, that is defined as "free speech." It is the reason why Europe will never truly be as free as the U.S. is/was.
As for Robinson, I know nothing about him other than that he was trying to draw attention to the idea of rape gangs who were basically grooming pre-teen girls for exactly the purposes that you would associate with a rape gang. Since those gangs are primarily composed of Muslims and they have risen to become an issue in the wake of UK's immigration policies, he's been saying that the country needs to acknowledge the issues with simply turning a blind eye to the impact of bringing in what he considers 15th century (or whatever century it was - I only heard his statement once) islamic practices which have no place in modern society.
I heard an exchange between him and a talk show host in the UK where he was talking about how basically "you elites don't have to deal with these things. Do you know anyone who was raped by one of these gangs? I do. Do you know someone who now wears a burka and can no longer associate with any of her family members? I do. Do you know someone whose life has been ruined because of the violence and rape that we're not being told about in the media? I do." And the host's response was (and this I remember word for word): "Those sound like your personal issues."
What's worse is that it's portrayed in a way that never would have happened under Obama... you know, when this all started. TO read the headlines and leads, you'd think that the immigration officers had grabbed the kids, pulled them off into some part of the building and then forgot where they were, leaving the kids to aimlessly walk the world looking for anyone to help them. What actually happens, as I understand it, is that they are required by law to release the kids into the care of a "relative" while the parents are being held. So shockingly, the kids disappear into the country somewhere with the relative, who most likely has been tasked with getting the kid safely hidden away and embedded in school somewhere, making it almost impossible to get the kid back. And we're all supposed to be surprised that there are so many kids that we lose track of?
It could be and should be handled much better.
The 2018 NY Times Journalism Institute. WGNA (White Guys need not apply.)
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The next Institute will be held from May 19 to June 3, 2018 for students (including those graduating in December or May) who are members of the National Association of Black Journalists and the National Association of Hispanic Journalists.
Planet of the APES isn't really about monkeys? Really? Rosanne has already received more media coverage than warranted but the attempt to claim she wasn't making a direct comparison to the old trope of blacks are monkeys strains credibility. It's dangerous not to point out racism when its smacking you upside the head. I'm in agreement with the rest of HTown's post.
I googled it and all I found was the Rabbi who blessed Ivanka and Jared. So, maybe it is that socially taboo.Third, can you really not come up with anything as bad as what Roseanne said?
Trump put his penis in the circle when he and the white house came out after Sam B. He should just sit back and watch the **** show.How predictable is it that this once again becomes about Trump?
I'd actually get on board with that.The optics would be pretty bad, but the solution is to have regular flights using an army carrier, load everyone up and make daily return flights to Central America.
See, it is not the classic trope though. Howard Cossell saying “look at the little monkey run” is the classic trope. If a klan member or other racist is going to use the classic trope, they are going to flat out call a dark skinned black person a monkey. Making a planet of the apes made up creature reference about someone who is not obviously black is not the same insult or trope. It is still wrong, condemnable, fireable, etc, etc. However, that is not the same meaning or intent. It is more in line with Maher’s “Trump looks like he came from an orangutan because of his hair” or “someone looks like an elf” kind of an insult. I think it is an exaggeration of the insult to claim it is the “classic racial monkey trope.” It is Roseanne we are talking about as well. If she meant monkey, she would have said monkey. She did not. She instead referred “planet of the apes” creatures which have never been used in that trope. It is different. That is the whole problem with political correctness and jumping to racism. It is similar to when that guy had to resign for using “black hole” as far as adding meaning. What she said was bad on it’s face, but she did not use the classic trope. Bill Maher had a pretty good rant about nuance a couple months ago.
With all that said, we've given Barr morededicated words that she deserves. Time for her to sequester herself on her Hawaiian nut farmuntil she is able to get her next gig at a cheap roadside casino.
I googled it and all I found was the Rabbi who blessed Ivanka and Jared. So, maybe it is that socially taboo.
Please, point out where Rosanne's comment is racist based on the definition used above.
hatred or intolerance of another race or other races.