Did Obama Wiretap The Donald?

[Joe Fan]

Convict them all.

I've said since January that manafort, Paige, stone and ephstyn .....

But nothing about Podesta over same period of time, eventhough its the same law that was broken (or may have been)

It's almost like you dont really care about what was done (or may have been done), you only care about who did it (or may have done it)

 

[Joe Fan]

Speaking of illegal behavior some people would prefer to never discuss, Obama's UN Ambassador Samantha Powers requested over 260 unmaskings in the final months of his regime

A UN Ambassador
260 ummaskings
What the hell?

And this is just one of Obama's people
What were the rest of them doing?
How many Americans did these people illegally spy on?

 

[OUBubba]

When I say "all" I was meaning Podesta as well.

Rice did nothing wrong. At least according to H.R. McMaster.

 

[Joe Fan]

....Rice did nothing wrong. At least according to H.R. McMaster.

The above was about Powers, not Rice. Powers was apparently requesting unmaskings on a daily basis, and increasing as her term unwound. Why?

I do not see why a UN Ambassador would be allowed to unmask anyone, except perhaps in an unusual situation involving her own functions at the UN or her subordinates. And even those situations would be a 'maybe.' A situation like that would probably demand a referral to State Dept security, not the UN Ambassador making daily individual requests of the NSA.

To that, add the timing of these requests, an election followed by transformation and surrender of the White House to the opposing political party. To a new President they clearly had personal animus towards. What other reasonable conclusion can be drawn other than Powers was acting as a spy/conduit for Hillary/the DNC/Obama for political reasons? This was not legal. Powers should be wearing orange too.

 

[Joe Fan]

When I say "all" I was meaning Podesta as well. .....

Can you show a single post of yours where you attempt to take down John Podesta in a similar fashion to your multiple screechings about Manafort/Page?

 

[Phil Elliott]

Let's not forget "Pants Stuffer" Sandy Berger when we are talking about Dems who did outrageous things and got away with it.

 

[Joe Fan]

The DC Mafia did anything and everything they wanted to defeat Trump yet they still lost

 

[Joe Fan]

Why didn't Sally Yates do anything about the wiretapping and illegal unmasking?

 

[OUBubba]

Can you show a single post of yours where you attempt to take down John Podesta in a similar fashion to your multiple screechings about Manafort/Page?

I've not been advocating for a take down of Podesta nor have I been defending him. You point to him to somehow justify the criminality of the pro-Russia hacks and my response is "take him down as well".

I've pointed out that Susan Rice is being lambasted for nothing. That's it.

 

[mchammer]

I've not been advocating for a take down of Podesta nor have I been defending him. You point to him to somehow justify the criminality of the pro-Russia hacks and my response is "take him down as well".

I've pointed out that Susan Rice is being lambasted for nothing. That's it.

No evidence of Russian hacking emails. DNC was an inside job. Trolling on Facebook is not a hack.

 

[Joe Fan]

No evidence of Russian hacking emails. DNC was an inside job. Trolling on Facebook is not a hack.

How about this logical conclusion -- Russia paid GPSFusion to drum up some anti-Trump pre-election dirt. Later, the FBI paid GPSFusion for its anti-Trump Steele dossier. Therefore, it was the FBI who colluded with the Russians with regard to the 2016 election.

 

[Joe Fan]

I've not been advocating for a take down of Podesta.....

Why not?
If the alleged crime is the same

 

[OUBubba]

No evidence of Russian hacking emails. DNC was an inside job. Trolling on Facebook is not a hack.

I think what they're going to find once the dust settles is this:

1. Foreign $ from Russians in GOP campaign coffers from Trump to Pence to Ryan. That's like against the law. Why would you offer to brief someone privately who didn't have some $kin in the game.
2. Coordination between Alfa bank and Cambridge Analytica and Russian operated bot farms.
3. Coordinated and manicured fake news from foreign actors that coincided with Trump campaign actions - announcements of "big things", timed advertising in certain states, etc.
4. I mean the fact that Kislyak's phone was hot mic'ed for some time and that Manafort's may have been as well is going to bring them all down. Now if Jim "gee I sure hope there are tapes" Comey had his phone activated to be used as an intelligence gathering device it will be very interesting.

Remember everything Russian related was "fake news" until it came out that there was an actual email where Jr., Manafort, Kushner, _______ where he was setting up a meeting with someone they thought was going to give them dirt on HRC. Then, THAT NIGHT, Sr. announces that he's going to have a big story on HRC that following week. My money says that Sr. was listening via conference call or phone call to the meeting. At first, he was "out of town" and then there were pictures of him entering Trump Tower that day for the campaign event. I mean unless he was busy watching Fox & Friends or Morning Joe and tweeting about it. The Orlando nightclub thing then dominated the news.

Hell, Roger Stone tweeted that big things were coming for Podesta and he communicated with Gucifer 2.0 during the campaign and freakin' admits to it.

If all of this were related to HRC she'd have been burned at the stake in Salem, MA by now.

 

[OUBubba]

Why not?
If the alleged crime is the same

"...nor have I been defending him. You point to him to somehow justify the criminality of the pro-Russia hacks and my response is "take him down as well".
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You left out an important part of the message. Typical.

 

[OUBubba]

How about this logical conclusion -- Russia paid GPSFusion to drum up some anti-Trump pre-election dirt. Later, the FBI paid GPSFusion for its anti-Trump Steele dossier. Therefore, it was the FBI who colluded with the Russians with regard to the 2016 election.

I thought the anti-Trump coalition paid for it and then they handed it off to HRC like a car that was coming off of a 24 month lease. Why would Russia pay for that? Since you brought it up, what part has been disproven to this point? I mean I know some has NOT been proven. But, after hearing much of the nitty gritty about our President and how he survived his personal Vietnam by getting out of that era without a STD, nothing in that dossier is shocking.

 

[Joe Fan]

"...nor have I been defending him. You point to him to somehow justify the criminality of the pro-Russia hacks and my response is "take him down as well".
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You left out an important part of the message. Typical.

Here is something I think we can agree on, which is supported by your posting style.
You dont care much about what was actually done
What matters to you is who did it
Which puts you in the middle of the Bell Curve of Dems

 

[OUBubba]

Here is something I think we can agree on, which is supported by your posting style.
You dont care much about what was actually done
What matters to you is who did it
Which puts you in the middle of the Bell Curve of Dems

To quote sheriff BUFORD T. Justice, "donthe letters F O mean anything to you?"

All I've said is H R McMaster said Susan rice didn't do anything. If lodestar did something convict him. Same with hrc.

 

[Joe Fan]

.....Nixon did some bad things but he was not this bad. A sitting President wiretapping the presidential candidate of the opposition party during a presidential election cycle is probably the worst thing that has ever happened in US presidential election history.