Death toll in Texas elementary school; 18 children, 2 adults killed

There are probably 100’s of thousands current police officers who would gladly leave the police force for a straight job at schools for the same money. They would need to undergo psychiatric examination and extensive background checks. But the key is also creating a multi layered defense system that begins with a secure gate far from the school entrance where any unauthorized breach results in the other points of entry going on secure shutdown.

A couple of people question how to pay for it. I would start by cutting the bloated costs with school district administration.
 
Greg Abbott is getting out in front on this deal: He is set to propose providing body armor for all primary school kids (if the feds will fund it) and fully automatic weapons for all teachers. That way when one of these nuts goes to school to kill, his fire will be returned promptly and no more than five or six kids will get killed before he goes down. Maybe eight, tops.
 
So it turns out that the gunman legally purchased the rifles from a federally licensed gun store on two occasions. This means he passed two background checks when he purchased the guns. So how the hell would a universal background check have prevented this tragedy when the shooter was able to pass a background check?

Just another example of how existing gun control laws have failed to prevent these types of mass shootings. So why should we keep adding more ineffective gun control laws that are proven failures?

Uvalde gunman legally bought AR rifles days before shooting, law enforcement says

The gunman in the deadliest school shooting in Texas history bought two AR-style rifles legally just after his 18th birthday — days before his assault on Robb Elementary School in Uvalde.

He legally purchased two AR platform rifles from a federally licensed gun store on two days: May 17 — just a day after his birthday — and May 20, the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives said, according to a briefing that state Sen. John Whitmire, chair of the Senate Criminal Justice Committee, received from state authorities late Tuesday. The gunman bought 375 rounds of 5.56-caliber ammunition on May 18.
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huisache said:
Greg Abbott is getting out in front on this deal: He is set to propose providing body armor for all primary school kids (if the feds will fund it) and fully automatic weapons for all teachers. That way when one of these nuts goes to school to kill, his fire will be returned promptly and no more than five or six kids will get killed before he goes down. Maybe eight, tops.
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Now do Beto
 
for years there was a store on the highway out of Uvalde heading north towards Leakey that had a big sign out front reading
GUNS
LIQUOR

I wonder if he bought them there.
 
mchammer said:
Now do Beto
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Beto has a sure fire plan: first, repeal the 2nd Amendment, then issue a presidential fiat instructing the ATF to seize all firearms that are not bolt action or can handle more than three rounds, then make everybody spend five minutes a day embracing somebody they don't like for whatever reason, then make them follow that up by singing KUMBAYA off key for five minutes, then light votive candles for George Floyd, then describe Salvador Ramos as a white supremacist and then........I dunno, whatever else the nutcase can come up with. The gubernatorial election in the fall is going to see Huisache cast yet another blank ballot.

Yikes, I left one thing out: after all that, seize all the bolt action weapons
 
theiioftx said:
There are probably 100’s of thousands current police officers who would gladly leave the police force for a straight job at schools for the same money. They would need to undergo psychiatric examination and extensive background checks. But the key is also creating a multi layered defense system that begins with a secure gate far from the school entrance where any unauthorized breach results in the other points of entry going on secure shutdown.

A couple of people question how to pay for it. I would start by cutting the bloated costs with school district administration.
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We could pay for a lot of officers with the artificial turf fields that we have throughout the US.
 
huisache said:
Beto has a sure fire plan: first, repeal the 2nd Amendment, then issue a presidential fiat instructing the ATF to seize all firearms that are not bolt action or can handle more than three rounds, then make everybody spend five minutes a day embracing somebody they don't like for whatever reason, then make them follow that up by singing KUMBAYA off key for five minutes, then light votive candles for George Floyd, then describe Salvador Ramos as a white supremacist and then........I dunno, whatever else the nutcase can come up with. The gubernatorial election in the fall is going to see Huisache cast yet another blank ballot.

Yikes, I left one thing out: after all that, seize all the bolt action weapons
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Almost got it. You forget:
*force folks to do a daily activity to support trans
 
OUBubba said:
You're not wrong. However, I think sentiments such as this allow the perfect to be the enemy of the good. Things like universal background checks, increasingly criminalizing the illegal owning of firearms, red flag laws, etc. can make an impact. Doing nothing but arming more people will only lead to more dead people. I think that's fairly clear now. The last two mass casualty events saw the good guys with the guns not having an impact.
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Actually, failing to punish and stop bad guys lead to more dead people. As horrible as this incident is, it's minor compared to the murders that take place all over the country every day that gun control advocates largely don't give a **** about. This is all self-serving political hackism and nothing more.
 
Mr. Deez said:
Actually, failing to punish and stop bad guys lead to more dead people. As horrible as this incident is, it's minor compared to the murders that take place all over the country every day that gun control advocates largely don't give a **** about. This is all self-serving political hackism and nothing more.
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Hey, thoughts and prayers...
 
OUBubba said:
So it is weakening the law abiding to require more of them to own a firearm than to take sudafed? Thoughts and prayers indeed!
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The shooter passed TWO background checks when he purchased these guns from a federally licensed gun shop. Your proposal of a Universal background check would have clearly been ineffective.
 
There were 8 police sent to his Mother's house when he still lived there as he was fighting with his mom. That wasn't the first time police were called on him
How did he pass 2 background checks?
 
UTChE96 said:
The shooter passed TWO background checks when he purchased these guns from a federally licensed gun shop. Your proposal of a Universal background check would have clearly been ineffective.
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Maybe we need to recalibrate the background checks.
 
Horn6721 said:
There were 8 police sent to his Mother's house when he still lived there as he was fighting with his mom. That wasn't the first time police were called on him
How did he pass 2 background checks?
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Outstanding question, good sir!
 
Horn6721 said:
There were 8 police sent to his Mother's house when he still lived there as he was fighting with his mom. That wasn't the first time police were called on him
How did he pass 2 background checks?
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If I had to guess, juvenile records are sealed and thus not available when a background check is done. That's just a guess though.
 
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