Coronavirus

Mr. Deez said:
However, for a private business, the statistical probability makes a big difference. It's harder for me to blame them.
Click to expand...

Private business owners own the business. They have rights as owner to dictate terms.

They can morally make people take a vaccine in order to be an employee. But we as people can also criticize their decisions and appeal to individual needs and rights. People can and should put pressure on business owners to give their employees medical freedom.

For the most part they do too. But for COVID private business has forced employees to get vaccinated based on government edict. Before the Federal Government announced their requirements or regulations, there were NO private businesses that forced vaccination. This is a situation where business owners aren't acting on their own but acting as the enforcement arm of the Federal Government. At this point, this is a violation of natural rights because corporate action is controlled and directed by the government. That is fascism. It's immoral and should be fought with everything we have.
 
mb227 said:
Employee would still have the uphill battle of proving the workplace was the source of the sniffles. Does not negate the costs of defending a frivolous suit, but still...
Click to expand...

The mRNA juice doesn't prevent transmission so it is a moot point. There is no excuse at this point.
 
Monahorns said:
Private business owners own the business. They have rights as owner to dictate terms.

They can morally make people take a vaccine in order to be an employee. But we as people can also criticize their decisions and appeal to individual needs and rights. People can and should put pressure on business owners to give their employees medical freedom.

For the most part they do too. But for COVID private business has forced employees to get vaccinated based on government edict. Before the Federal Government announced their requirements or regulations, there were NO private businesses that forced vaccination. This is a situation where business owners aren't acting on their own but acting as the enforcement arm of the Federal Government. At this point, this is a violation of natural rights because corporate action is controlled and directed by the government. That is fascism. It's immoral and should be fought with everything we have.
Click to expand...

The mandate is unconstitutional and a clear violation of people's rights. I don't argue that point at all. However, I highly suspect that many businesses (especially large ones) want their employees to vaxx even if they weren't willing to force it and welcome the mandate. After all, their job is to make money, not to make a political point about their employees' rights.
 
Mr. Deez said:
The mandate is unconstitutional and a clear violation of people's rights. I don't argue that point at all. However, I highly suspect that many businesses (especially large ones) want their employees to vaxx even if they weren't willing to force it and welcome the mandate. After all, their job is to make money, not to make a political point about their employees' rights.
Click to expand...
Businesses also don’t want their workers at home because they have someone at home with Covid. They are hoping most of the family gets vaxxed too. The best way to end all of this is stop all restrictions whatsoever and go back to normal.
 
Mr. Deez said:
However, I highly suspect that many businesses (especially large ones) want their employees to vaxx even if they weren't willing to force it and welcome the mandate.
Click to expand...

I don't disagree with this statement. But that is mainly because they are coopted by Communist ideology.

Where I disagree, I actually don't think they focus that much on making money today. I work for a large global corporation. The leadership is making layers of decisions over the last 10 years that specifically will reduce profitability in order to adhere to woke agenda. They teach climate crisis propaganda actively. They embrace radical feminism. They have committed to racial equity by giving away tons of money. If they don't change direction our company will have to lay off a large amount of people and get out of many businesses due to these bad decisions.
 
Good article on long list of Covid policy issues. Note the number of excess deaths in Australia and New Zealand that shows minimal impact of taking the vaccine on deaths (excluding Covid).

DEEP DIVE: Covid Myths
 
Last edited:
PA has one of the highest vaccine rates.

334885C5-C412-4A91-A48F-3F064E4C0A13.jpeg
 
Monahorns said:
I don't disagree with this statement. But that is mainly because they are coopted by Communist ideology.

Where I disagree, I actually don't think they focus that much on making money today. I work for a large global corporation. The leadership is making layers of decisions over the last 10 years that specifically will reduce profitability in order to adhere to woke agenda. They teach climate crisis propaganda actively. They embrace radical feminism. They have committed to racial equity by giving away tons of money. If they don't change direction our company will have to lay off a large amount of people and get out of many businesses due to these bad decisions.
Click to expand...

I think there are layers to it. I think we're seeing Gen Z entering the workforce. They're motivated by social justice causes, and Millennials at the managerial level are sympathetic to them. Both are willing to enlist social media and HR departments to shame, bully, and intimidate anyone who doesn't go along by ostracization.

However, I also think older business leaders see the writing on the wall and assume that echoing the woke religion will be a prerequisite to doing business with these screwed-up generations. Jonathan Haidt has commented on this and how to deal with it. Link.
 
Garmel said:
You're right. Most of the time it does. However, the Spanish Flu was mild at first and we saw what happened there.
Click to expand...
I"m sure I've repeated this a few times here. It was unique in that it spread out of the trenches in WWI. The people who got real sick went to the hospital. The hospitals had people coming and going in very large numbers. The people who got kind of sick just stayed at the front. The version that went to the hospital is the one that propagated.
 
You must log in or register to reply here.

Weekly Prediction Contest

* Predict HORNS-AGGIES *
Sat, Nov 30 • 6:30 PM on ABC

Recent Threads

Prediction Results Threads

2024 Schedules

Back
Top