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Well, you're right that preying on fear and racism sells much better than good policy. Watch for your next MS-13/immigrant caravan flare up between now and the mid terms.
1) way to completely ignore that the allegedly racist voters in Virginia put into office a Black female Lt. Governor and a Latino Attorney General. Damn those racists...

2) Tell me you don't understand gangs without telling me you never worked with agencies that HAVE to focus on them. If you a) don't believe the caravans are a real thing, you have not been paying attention and b )if you don't believe gangs are real, then you DEFINITELY have not been paying attention. MS13 was becoming a threat and gaining a foothold in prisons even while Obummer was in office.

Somehow, I have a feeling you cannot look at tats and discern which gang someone is affiliated with. They have changed over the years as gang separation in prisons became a thing, with the tats being one of the big identifiers...Mexican Mafia was REAL easy while Texas Syndicate was something you occasionally had to look more closely at (but there was and is almost always a TS embedded in the image). MS13 has some other identifiers. Those that claim it isn't a real thing have never been on scene for the aftermath of a gang incident, inside a prison OR outside of a prison. It ain't pretty.

But meanwhile, we ALSO see the POTUS demanding illegal aliens be sent to places around the nation where they then continue to commit additional crimes while ALSO often being positive for the sniffles. And yes, they ARE additional since the first one was the illegal entry...
 
With the pandemic lockdowns the prevailing belief was the suicide rates would increase. Not so fast based on CDC data. Suicide rates in 2020 declined for the 2nd year in a row. It was up slightly in a few age demographics.

Among men, the suicide rate reduced 2 percent between 2019 and 2020, and women saw a drop of 9 percent in the time frame. The rate fell among women from all racial and ethnic groups, although only the 10 percent decline among white women was statistically significant.

But other populations, including younger adults, Black men, American Indian and Alaskan Native and Hispanic men, saw increases.

The data found slight rises in suicides among younger Americans aged 10 to 34, but only the 5 percent increase among those aged 25 to 34 was considered significant.
 
With the pandemic lockdowns the prevailing belief was the suicide rates would increase. Not so fast based on CDC data. Suicide rates in 2020 declined for the 2nd year in a row. It was up slightly in a few age demographics.
One would need to look at just how they define a suicide...my guess is there are many that were grouped in with overdoses rather than classed as suicide where no note was present.

Do not also overlook that some suicides STILL get classed elsewhere if there is family that might otherwise be denied insurance benefits since policies don't always pay out on a suicide.
 
One would need to look at just how they define a suicide...my guess is there are many that were grouped in with overdoses rather than classed as suicide where no note was present.

Do not also overlook that some suicides STILL get classed elsewhere if there is family that might otherwise be denied insurance benefits since policies don't always pay out on a suicide.

Unless they changed the methodology for classifying "suicides" does any of that matter? Those classifications would impact any year.
 
Unless they changed the methodology for classifying "suicides" does any of that matter? Those classifications would impact any year.
With the awareness of drug overdoses as a suicidal gesture in the past few years, I can see the human element entering the equation with some Medical Examiners.
 
Wait, it’s okay if a six year old doesn’t get it even you think adults MUST get it who refuse it for the same reasons? I think that plays into the mismanagement of this virus from the beginning.
 
Wait, it’s okay if a six year old doesn’t get it even you think adults MUST get it who refuse it for the same reasons? I think that plays into the mismanagement of this virus from the beginning.

Adults must be treated like children or children MUST be treated like adults? I'm so confused.
 
Thought he was referring to the natural
Immunity issue since Bubba made the comment about the 6 year old being around positive adults but I might be reading it wrong.
 
Declining a vaccine for a 6 year old who spent two weeks in a home with positive people and never got it is hypocritical? I think every adult should get it. My kids got theirs on their own. I called you reasonable and fair in another thread. Don't ruin what we have.

Won't matter what you want. The vaccine mandates for children are coming. To some extend there's more of a precedent for that then telling adults to get it or be fired. The difference being vaccines in the past were for diseases that actually affected them.

To what extent they will be mandated in OK is yet to be seen - if the state GOP leadership will forbid them, or will local school boards / public heath chumps be able to decree them regardless of what the Gov/Legislature passes.
 
Won't matter what you want. The vaccine mandates for children are coming. To some extend there's more of a precedent for that then telling adults to get it or be fired. The difference being vaccines in the past were for diseases that actually affected them.

To what extent they will be mandated in OK is yet to be seen - if the state GOP leadership will forbid them, or will local school boards / public heath chumps be able to decree them regardless of what the Gov/Legislature passes.
Won’t happen here. Our governor is still trying to offload $2,000,000 of hydroxychloriquine that he bought to try and sidle into the trump orbit.

@Garmel. You’ll love this. My wife wanted me to read about a new med her doc wanted her to start for her immune system issues. I lol’d when it was hydroxychloriquine.
 
Thought he was referring to the natural
Immunity issue since Bubba made the comment about the 6 year old being around positive adults but I might be reading it wrong.
We joked that he must be immune. He never got the antibodies. We had him tested.
 
Won’t happen here. Our governor is still trying to offload $2,000,000 of hydroxychloriquine that he bought to try and sidle into the trump orbit.

@Garmel. You’ll love this. My wife wanted me to read about a new med her doc wanted her to start for her immune system issues. I lol’d when it was hydroxychloriquine.

She said it was a new med? Yeah, that drug is older than most of us on this board.
 
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Won’t happen here. Our governor is still trying to offload $2,000,000 of hydroxychloriquine that he bought to try and sidle into the trump orbit.

@Garmel. You’ll love this. My wife wanted me to read about a new med her doc wanted her to start for her immune system issues. I lol’d when it was hydroxychloriquine.
If it does, will you comply?
 
OAN Newsroom
UPDATED 7:15 AM PT – Thursday, November 4, 2021

Businesses have until just after the holiday season to get their employees vaccinated. The Occupational Safety and Health Administration (OSHA) released the new rules under the Labor Department Thursday, saying all businesses with 100 employees or more must make sure their workers are vaccinated by January 4.
 
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OAN Newsroom
UPDATED 7:15 AM PT – Thursday, November 4, 2021

Businesses have until just after the holiday season to get their employees vaccinated. The Occupational Safety and Health Administration (OSHA) released the new rules under the Labor Department Thursday, saying all businesses with 100 employees or more must make sure their workers are vaccinated by January 4.
The OSHA enforcement will trigger lawsuits. But long before the courts resolve anything, I would hope enough people stand up, whether by opting out, strikes, etc. that this craziness gets stopped.
 
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Why don’t you aks your doctor why Covid numbers have dropped when stadiums are filled with non masks wearers. Most Doctors and Fauci wanted to cancel football cuz it was too scary and would kill fans. But they were wrong again. Human immune system is strong. That is why we have 8 billion people walking around.
Oh and Germany numbers are surging and they are heavily vaxxed. Maybe the Chinese rereleased another dose.
 
Why don’t you aks your doctor why Covid numbers have dropped when stadiums are filled with non masks wearers. Most Doctors and Fauci wanted to cancel football cuz it was too scary and would kill fans. But they were wrong again. Human immune system is strong. That is why we have 8 billion people walking around.
Oh and Germany numbers are surging and they are heavily vaxxed. Maybe the Chinese rereleased another dose.
Germany is heavily vaxxed but low on natural immunity.
 
Why don’t you aks your doctor why Covid numbers have dropped when stadiums are filled with non masks wearers. Most Doctors and Fauci wanted to cancel football cuz it was too scary and would kill fans. But they were wrong again. Human immune system is strong. That is why we have 8 billion people walking around.
Oh and Germany numbers are surging and they are heavily vaxxed. Maybe the Chinese rereleased another dose.
You mean the Russians. Maybe another solar winds hack is coming.
 

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