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OUBubba said:
I linked a NYT story that Covid often just drops inexplicably. That’s all.
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Don’t really care what a so called journalist writes about science but nothing drops off inexplicably. Dinosaur extinct, Black Plague, little ice age, space time, just dive into Einstein he explains a lot. So not inexplicable, don’t believe everything you read.
 
mchammer said:
Half vaccinated? Bull **** 73% of folks 12+ in age have at least one dose in Texas.
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There are now major lawsuits about CDC and FDA manipulation of statistics to create fear of Covid and promote vaccines. In Oregon no less! 73% sounds like bs. I don’t trust the MSM statistics.
 
Antibody deficiency enhancement (ADE). These variants are coming from the vaxxed. MSM burying the lawsuits against CDC and FDA regarding the vaccines. Ivermectin will help those who are vaxxed, and have a breakthrough case.
 
mchammer said:
PA too:

The latest Department of Health statistics on so-called "breakthrough" infections show that between Sept. 5 and Oct. 4, vaccinated people represented just over a quarter of all new infections and hospitalizations across the state.

COVID-19 cases, hospitalizations rise among vaccinated in PA
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Note PA has one of the highest vaxx rates in the country:


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I still wish someone would fund a study that examined whether a correlation existed with not bathing in hand sanitizer the way some of these fools have for the past decade or so and NOT having issues with the sniffles.

Common sense suggests that, if you never allow your immune system to develop, you will be screwed when something new comes along that hand sanitizers were not designed or capable of dealing with...
 
Horn2RunAgain said:
No taunting here, but bubba's input would be interesting. This goes against the narrative we've been fed
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Much of the real science goes against the narrative being shoveled by POTUS and MSM...

Just look at how quickly the gloating over Allen West disappeared once he was released from the hospital within less than 48 hours. The media is not even mentioning that he was released or that he seems to be in good health.
 
mb227 said:
I still wish someone would fund a study that examined whether a correlation existed with not bathing in hand sanitizer the way some of these fools have for the past decade or so and NOT having issues with the sniffles.

Common sense suggests that, if you never allow your immune system to develop, you will be screwed when something new comes along that hand sanitizers were not designed or capable of dealing with...
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I don't enjoy when you and I agree...
 
AC said:
Sources: VAXXED Delta Pilot DIES IN-FLIGHT, Emergency Landing Required
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While I don't deny that we don't yet have sufficient data on the effects of the vaccine on those who are constantly up and down, the other reality is that pilots do, occasionally, pass away during a flight. This is not unique to the post-sniffles era...

What IS unusual is for a claim to be made like this and not have any recordings from the ATC channels. And I am not seeing those sorts of snippets in some of the usual pilot boards...
 
mb227 said:
While I don't deny that we don't yet have sufficient data on the effects of the vaccine on those who are constantly up and down, the other reality is that pilots do, occasionally, pass away during a flight. This is not unique to the post-sniffles era...

What IS unusual is for a claim to be made like this and not have any recordings from the ATC channels. And I am not seeing those sorts of snippets in some of the usual pilot boards...
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Twice in a day. Repent! The end is nigh!!!
 
Just to report, on October 1, I got the Moderna vaccine (first shot), and I'm ready to be told that I "cucked out." Lol. So far, I'm not magnetic (which really sucks - I was hoping for that) and do not have an insatiable urge to buy Microsoft products. My arm had some mild pain for a few days, and on the following Tuesday, I got a few cold symptoms (nasal congestion, a little coughing, and a light sore throat) but no fever. They lasted until Saturday. (I'm scheduled to get my second shot on November 5.)

I'm happy both with my decision to wait and my decision to ultimately get it. By waiting, I was able to make a much more informed decision. I was able to avoid Johnson & Johnson and AstraZeneca (which are associated with blood clots). I was also able to get the vaccine that clearly protects best against variants (like Delta), as opposed to Pfizer, which was the early favorite.

I'm also glad that I ultimately chose to get vaccinated. I did consider waiting this out, but the big thing that changed my mind was seeing the Delta spike while I was in Texas. That showed me that this thing is never going away, and obviously as I age (now 45), I'm going to become more and more vulnerable to it. I'd rather vax-up now than wait for a Covid infection to knock me on my *** or worse if I get older. Furthermore, the UK is mostly moving past Covid restrictions based on the assumption that people are getting vaccinated, and their vaccination rate is high. Social distancing is becoming far less enforced, and other than in medical settings, most people are not wearing masks. The system here isn't built to protect the unvaccinated anymore. It's now built to promote immunity (through vaccination and immunity by infection), and the UK is largely moving on.

In all, I think I made the right move.
 
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No condemnation here Deez, your choice, your decision. For me, as a recovered Covid infected I choose to go with that immunity. It has now been 13 1/2 months so I’ll be getting an antibody test soon to see how I’m doing on that front. Don’t plan on getting the vaccine unless antibody titer drops dramatically. Then I’d have to give some serious thought, not saying I’d automatically get it but it would be considered.
 
Mr. Deez said:
Just to report, on October 1, I got the Moderna vaccine (first shot), and I'm ready to be told that I "cucked out." Lol. So far, I'm not magnetic (which really sucks - I was hoping for that) and do not have an insatiable urge to buy Microsoft products. My arm had some mild pain for a few days, and on the following Tuesday, I got a few cold symptoms (nasal congestion, a little coughing, and a light sore throat) but no fever. They lasted until Saturday. (I'm scheduled to get my second shot on November 5.)

I'm happy both with my decision to wait and my decision to ultimately get it. By waiting, I was able to make a much more informed decision. I was able to avoid Johnson & Johnson and AstraZeneca (which are associated with blood clots). I was also able to get the vaccine that clearly protects best against variants (like Delta), as opposed to Pfizer, which was the early favorite.

I'm also glad that I ultimately chose to get vaccinated. I did consider waiting this out, but the big thing that changed my mind was seeing the Delta spike while I was in Texas. That showed me that this thing is never going away, and obviously as I age (now 45), I'm going to become more and more vulnerable to it. I'd rather vax-up now than wait for a Covid infection to knock me on my *** or worse if I get older. Furthermore, the UK is mostly moving past Covid restrictions based on the assumption that people are getting vaccinated, and their vaccination rate is high. Social distancing is becoming far less enforced, and other than in medical settings, most people are not wearing masks. The system here isn't built to protect the unvaccinated anymore. It's now built to promote immunity (through vaccination and immunity), and the UK is largely moving on.

In all, I think I made the right move.
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My only criticism is that you wanted 2 months too long. Close friend of mine went to Granger to bury a cousin who in his mid-40’s died of Covid. Left a wife and 2 kids behind.
 
mchammer said:
My only criticism is that you wanted 2 months too long. Close friend of mine went to Granger to bury a cousin who in his mid-40’s died of Covid. Left a wife and 2 kids behind.
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Every Covid death is a horrible tragedy for those involved regardless of the odds and statistics. Statistically Covid isn't a big risk for kids, but to the few who have actually died from it, it's terrible. However, I still have to make decisions based on my own situation and risk assessment. If I had done it two months earlier, I would have gotten Pfizer and would be at a higher risk of getting sick and having to get a booster.
 
nashhorn said:
No condemnation here Deez, your choice, your decision. For me, as a recovered Covid infected I choose to go with that immunity. It has now been 13 1/2 months so I’ll be getting an antibody test soon to see how I’m doing on that front. Don’t plan on getting the vaccine unless antibody titer drops dramatically. Then I’d have to give some serious thought, not saying I’d automatically get it but it would be considered.
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That is a good thing to track. Do tests like that also show B-cell and T-cell ability to create new antibodies? That is something that looks like it is largely ignored.

The other thing that would be even more important to check in my opinion is Vitamin D levels. Case severity tracks very closely with Vitamin D levels in your blood.

I thought I was in a great spot on that. I spent time outside every day and I take 3000 units a day. But my latest measurement was 36. That is within the normal range of 30-100 but it is on the low end. I had a medium level case. Bad flu for a week level. That seems to align close for an anecdote. I wasn't near the level I thought I was. That could be a big factor in why case severity trends with older people. I suspect we process Vitamin D less and less efficiently as we age.
 
Monahorns said:
That is a good thing to track. Do tests like that also show B-cell and T-cell ability to create new antibodies? That is something that looks like it is largely ignored.

The other thing that would be even more important to check in my opinion is Vitamin D levels. Case severity tracks very closely with Vitamin D levels in your blood.

I thought I was in a great spot on that. I spent time outside every day and I take 3000 units a day. But my latest measurement was 36. That is within the normal range of 30-100 but it is on the low end. I had a medium level case. Bad flu for a week level. That seems to align close for an anecdote. I wasn't near the level I thought I was. That could be a big factor in why case severity trends with older people. I suspect we process Vitamin D less and less efficiently as we age.
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I was surprised at my low levels of vitamin D in my 2020 tests. I'm in the yard for an hour or more April thru September 5 or 6 days a week, take a D and zinc supplement every couple of days. Still, when I caught covid for a 2nd time last December it was as if I had the sniffles. Very mild
 
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