Coronavirus

Quercetin isn’t a drug and doesn’t require a script. In fact it is used by many as a anti Covid. Wife uses it in a supplement recommended by her Doc. Takes it 2x per week. Because I take the hydroxychloroquine I don’t need to take that. The hydroxychloroquine I take on prescription. There are numerous causes for which the drug is a legitimate treatment like, believe it or not, severe dry eyes. So there ya go.
Neither have I heard of a reoccurrence among previously infected. That’s disturbing. Mona, did you ever get Ab tested? If you said sorry I missed.
My case was, like so many cases, was weird, no fever, no sniffles, no loss of taste nor smell. Just aches, back mainly for 2-3 days and serious fatigue. Just Whalen I thought was getting relief I’d wander outside and have to come back inside to lie down after less than an hour - totally wiped as if I’d been working farm work all day.
After couple weeks hip started hurting so went to pcp who freaked because I hadn’t come earlier. Testing showed still pos so went full tilt with azithromycin, steroids, ekg. From ekg ordered stress test - halted during test, said showed my heart was pumping good but not relaxing adequately. Loaded my hip with steroids and an anesthetic. No help on hip, pain started running down leg. Performed electrocardiograph showed no problem - whew. Leg finally diagnosed as sciatica, when foot drop appeared sent to PT cause no way I was taking anymore anxiety inducing (and constipation causing) steroids. To close a long story I ended up having surgery for the perineal nerve. Still gave slight foot drop but almost gone.
And yep, I am not certain the cause of my miserable year isn’t Covid. My family is convinced Covid caused it all.
Sorry to be so windy, could actually write considerably more.
 
humahuma said:
I think I had Covid back in March 2020, for a couple days it was hard to breathe and felt like a lb was on my chest. Before that I was working out, walking and my early years 44 doing sprint Triathlons. I am 58 just got back from cardiologist doing a stress test, came back positive. They said my heart was not transferring enough oxygen to my blood.

I felt that all along, I am thinking this the after effects of Covid. Anyone have any comments?
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I presume you meant to say your lungs were not transferring enough O2 to your blood. I know someone who had micro-tears in their lungs after Covid. You may want to get your lungs X-rayed. Alternatively maybe not enough blood is being pumped to your lungs. I read Covid can cause inflammation that can impair blood flow.
 
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humahuma said:
I think I had Covid back in March 2020, for a couple days it was hard to breathe and felt like a lb was on my chest. Before that I was working out, walking and my early years 44 doing sprint Triathlons. I am 58 just got back from cardiologist doing a stress test, came back positive. They said my heart was not transferring enough oxygen to my blood.

I felt that all along, I am thinking this the after effects of Covid. Anyone have any comments?
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Yeah, I think for some covid affects the lungs. Early on everyone in the house caught it (first round) my case was the only one beyond simple stuff. Definitely some long term effects on lungs. Just have to live with it

2nd round was easy. No issues.

Fwiw I caught it early on, first round. People I know that were exposed (a center where I teach classes)in that time frame still have issues. There's a lot the medical community doesn't know about the virus or simply doesn't understand. That brings on frustration, china hasn't been upfront on this thing from the get go.
 
Correct O2 is not being transferred. I still walk miles, just can’t run as I use to. I can see where I might have micro tears, I will suggest X Ray of the lungs. Thanks everyone.
 
humahuma said:
Correct O2 is not being transferred. I still walk miles, just can’t run as I use to. I can see where I might have micro tears, I will suggest X Ray of the lungs. Thanks everyone.
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My wife who got Covid in late August (unvaxxed) saw the doctor about 4 weeks after Covid. First thing the doctor did was order an x-ray of the lungs and an EKG.
 
I had my cardiologist say my EKG was perfect. So I assuming next set is lung X-ray , and if it shows signs of micro tears, just live with it.
 
My then 8 year old daughter came down with Covid first late January. She was down for 3-4 days. A couple of weeks later my wife and I had it. Seemed like a very bad case of the flu. I had a high pitched type cough, what is best described as "glue-snot" and a fever. My back was somewhat stiff and sore. 4 days later it subsided. My wife and I were vaccinated in the late winter/early spring (Moderna). For awhile, I would tire out by mid to late afternoon, had some lower back aches. Haven't had any recurrence. My doctor said that "being vaccinated doesn't mean you won't contract the virus again. You might. But, you won't die from it."
 
Seattle Husker said:
I'll be curious how far you get. Not a lawyer but I believe that Abbott's EO was more of a virtue signal than anything else. Ultimately, companies can choose their own terms of employment. If they require the vaccine there is very little the government can do. Your wife's company isn't the only one, the company I'm consulting at has a large presence in Dallas. They communicated long before Abbott's EO that all employees in all 50 states need to be vaccinated as a term of their employment by the end of October. In At-Will employment states there isn't much the employee can do other than become a former employee if they choose to not get vaccinated.
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Yes, it's a virtue signal, and it's a sign that he's considering running for president. There's a tendency in the last several years for politicians (especially governors and AGs) to inject themselves into national controversies by fighting with the Administration on some big issue when they are from opposing parties. It's all about boosting their own brand and prominence. You saw Xavier Bacerra do it with Trump. You saw Abbott do it with Obama when he was AG, and he's doing it again with Biden.

As for the legitimacy of Abbott's EO, I think it's on weak ground. It's not because businesses have an inherent right to demand its employees be vaccinated. Employment at Will is the general rule, but we make exceptions to it all the time both at the federal and state level. But by EO? No. That's something a wannabe dictator (or a virtue signaling politician who doesn't care about the limits on his power) attempts. True exceptions are created by legislatures passing statutes or by state courts making common law exceptions since the general rule is a common law doctrine. That's what is normal and legitimate. The Texas Legislature hasn't adopted such a statute, and the Texas Supreme Court has not recognized such an exception.

You can't complain about the legitimacy of Biden's EO on the vaccine mandate or eviction moratorium (and I complain about both but not about his order on federal employees) but also think Abbott has the legitimate authority to pull an exception to the at-will doctrine out of his ***. He doesn't.

Seattle Husker said:
Biden's EO was merely air cover for what companies really wanted to get employees back into the office. It allowed the airlines, the retail companies and many other industries to mandate vaccines without being the bad guy.
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Kinda sorta for big companies when they're talking about some employees but definitely not across the board for them, and I don't think all or even most medium or small companies want to go that far. I'm sure most prefer their employees get vaccinated for the same reason they often want their employees to get the flu shot. It'll cut down on absenteeism. However, do most want to make it an absolute condition of employment for all employees? Remember what that means. It means they're willing to ****-can any employee (not just the grunts who shovel **** for a living and can be replaced by the end of the day) over this regardless of that employee's performance or how much money or success that employee generates. Suppose the CEO of Ford Motor Company for whatever reason doesn't want to get vaccinated. Is he really going to get canned? Hard to imagine the company caring enough to do that. Hell, suppose a Ford dealership's top salesman doesn't want to get vaccinated. Does the dealership really want to fire him and lose his talents over that? Maybe, but I wouldn't be too sure. If Tom Brady doesn't want to get vaccinated, are the Tampa Bay Buccaneers really going to cut him? It's laughable to even consider.
 
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mchammer said:
Leftists are stoooooooooopid!!!!! Watch the video.

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I saw this on Hannity as well. Gupta got his *** kicked here in the longer version.

Gupta was stammering and uncomfortable.
JR- 'Your network said I took a horse dewormer. It was prescribed to me by a doctor"
SG- Yeah that was wrong to say that
JR- "The network you work for, lied. Outright lied ...And you're the medical expert on that network"
SG- Yeah... I uh, that was wrong
JR- "Did you ask why they lied?
SG- I didn't ask
JR "You didn't ask? You're the 'medical guy' on that network (laughing in a taunting manner)
SG- I didn't ask

Remember how uncomfortable Blinken looked under oath? That was Gupta. This whole thing has become political football to the most visible medical professionals. Nothing more
 
Seattle Husker said:
Not a lawyer but I believe that Abbott's EO was more of a virtue signal than anything else.
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I'm not so sure about that. When he banned the requirement to have a vaccine to go to a grocery store or restaurant he would send TABC to threaten to revoke their liquor license. To my knowledge everyone gave in.
 
40% of TSA employees are not vaccinated. If you think SWA’s fiasco was bad, wait until November 22. Joe’s handlers are trying to kill America.
 
Mr. Deez said:
Yes, it's a virtue signal, and it's a sign that he's considering running for president. There's a tendency in the last several years for politicians (especially governors and AGs) to inject themselves into national controversies by fighting with the Administration on some big issue when they are from opposing parties. It's all about boosting their own brand and prominence. You saw Xavier Bacerra do it with Trump. You saw Abbott do it with Obama when he was AG, and he's doing it again with Biden.
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Except that the two biggest issues have been things that DIRECTLY impact Texans. Think about the two issues...vaccine mandates which have yet to be codified by the OSHA rulemaking process (where #EmptyShelvesJoe said it would be done) and the sieve of a southern border, which directly places strains upon Texas resources.

And anyone paying attention has to be aware of the irony of the borders of Canada and Mexico being opened to 'fully vaxxed' travelers coming through approved ports of entry while an illegal can just come across and have a wave-through faster that one can say "ole."
 
mb227 said:
Except that the two biggest issues have been things that DIRECTLY impact Texans. Think about the two issues...vaccine mandates which have yet to be codified by the OSHA rulemaking process (where #EmptyShelvesJoe said it would be done) and the sieve of a southern border, which directly places strains upon Texas resources.

And anyone paying attention has to be aware of the irony of the borders of Canada and Mexico being opened to 'fully vaxxed' travelers coming through approved ports of entry while an illegal can just come across and have a wave-through faster that one can say "ole."
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Obviously federal policies on many issues impact Texas. However, the fact that bad federal policy impacts a state doesn't mean the governor of that state has special power. If the Legislature or the Texas Supreme Court choose to act, that's fine, but it's not Abbott's job to just start making up laws as he goes along.
 
mchammer said:
My wife who got Covid in late August (unvaxxed) saw the doctor about 4 weeks after Covid. First thing the doctor did was order an x-ray of the lungs and an EKG.
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Yeah, I got an xray after about a week and they saw pneumonia but no tears, at least that they spoke of. A week of levaquin healed me.
 
I for one am FOR governors pushing back any way they can against Federal violation of rights. I wish the Texas Leg would pass a law banning vax mandates but in the mean time I don't mind Abbott virtue signaling against them. Any resistance to this tyranny gives people something to rally around. Plus is the state flexing its Constitutional muscles against the Fed. The States are the sovereign political entity on this continent not the Fed. The Fed was given limited powers spelled out which they were not supposed expand beyond. They have, so we need those with political power to fight back however they can.

Biden is trying to coerce corporations to force their employees to take a vaccine. That is fascist. Abbott virtue signaling against fascism on behalf of Texans is a good thing. We need more governors doing the same thing. If they do, there is a good chance Biden stands down on this. If governors stay silent then that is a signal that there is no opposition and there is an easy path to continue.
 
Monahorns said:
I for one am FOR governors pushing back any way they can against Federal violation of rights. I wish the Texas Leg would pass a law banning vax mandates but in the mean time I don't mind Abbott virtue signaling against them. Any resistance to this tyranny gives people something to rally around. Plus is the state flexing its Constitutional muscles against the Fed. The States are the sovereign political entity on this continent not the Fed. The Fed was given limited powers spelled out which they were not supposed expand beyond. They have, so we need those with political power to fight back however they can.

Biden is trying to coerce corporations to force their employees to take a vaccine. That is fascist. Abbott virtue signaling against fascism on behalf of Texans is a good thing. We need more governors doing the same thing. If they do, there is a good chance Biden stands down on this. If governors stay silent then that is a signal that there is no opposition and there is an easy path to continue.
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It's more about the "how" than the "what." If states want to put up resistance, that's fine. They have that right and should do it. Pass statutes, develop common law exceptions to the at-will relationship, challenge the federal mandate in court. However, having a governor trying to create a new substantive law by decree like an absolute monarch isn't the right way. If you believe in the rule of law, then the "how" matters.
 
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