Coronavirus

horninchicago said:
Apparently , if you have the sniffles and go to the doctor, you will not get treated or tested for anything if you don't submit to a kung flu test.

But, there is nothing suspicious here.
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I can top that...

We have a client who was recently released from prison into a therapeutic community aftercare program. This means halfway house for 90 days. Facility decides to quarantine those who are not vexed because of a positive test nearly a week prior on someone no longer living there. A negative test would allow someone to leave quarantine.

They won't test the unvaccinated residents.

Seriously.

Client's wife is in the healthcare field and also is not vaccinated...they had staff so scared to even sneeze during allergy season lest they get sent home for a week. The charade is played out.
 
horninchicago said:
Haven't said I think it is either effective or not. And, what do you care if I get this shot? I have no idea what raffle you are talking about?

Seriously, why do you give a crap what I do? I couldn't care less what you do or don't do.

Give it a rest.
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If you didn't understand the raffle discussion, why did you jump in on it?
 
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hmmmmm!
FDA sent this by accident. This probably was not supposed to go public!
 
n64ra said:
If you didn't understand the raffle discussion, why did you jump in on it?
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Listen up. In post 9997, you asked me if a raffle was going to change my mind. I said I know nothing of a raffle. I didn't say I don't understand whatever raffle you are talking about. If there has been discussion of a raffle, I am not aware of it.

So, I'm not sure what your beef is with me, but I'm getting tired of your crap and quoting me with stupid *** comments.

Okay?
 
horninchicago said:
Listen up. In post 9997, you asked me if a raffle was going to change my mind. I said I know nothing of a raffle. I didn't say I don't understand whatever raffle you are talking about. If there has been discussion of a raffle, I am not aware of it.

So, I'm not sure what your beef is with me, but I'm getting tired of your crap and quoting me with stupid *** comments.

Okay?
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I feel better now. :coolnana:
 
AC said:
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hmmmmm!
FDA sent this by accident. This probably was not supposed to go public!
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That was supposedly on a presentation on 10/22/20. To speak your language, Bitcoin was just over $13k on that day. :)

Those are possible side effects. VAERS is something we have to do when we have adverse effects. I don't think we've had one reportable in more than 20,000 vaccines.
 
OUBubba said:
That was supposedly on a presentation on 10/22/20. To speak your language, Bitcoin was just over $13k on that day. :)

Those are possible side effects. VAERS is something we have to do when we have adverse effects. I don't think we've had one reportable in more than 20,000 vaccines.
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Shhhh....don't tell @AC. Seriously, you only need to look at VAERS to see the 13,232 (made up number) different reported side effect characteristics with the vaccine.

In reality, not every reported adverse effect is correlated directly to the vaccine. In fact, we know that most aren't but VAERS is the early warning system for the FDA to use the data to ensure they are investigating potential side effects.
 
Still no tests in the woodlands area - maybe by the end of the week I was told by cvs. Someone at work hearing my frustration had a spare at-home test from Abbott. I picked it up this afternoon from his front porch. I tested positive even though I was vaccinated in April. Feeling much better today that I contribute to the vaccine. But my kids have to stay home until Sept 7 even though they have no symptoms and would likely test negative every day before school. Thanks Biden for not getting the FDA to approve more tests! In fact I think my 2 youngest kids brought it home a few weeks ago after a visit to the Houston Natural Science Museum. They had light cold symptoms and a raspy voice for a few days, then nothing. They are probably immune but now have to sit at home. Thanks Biden!!!
 
Vol Horn 4 Life said:
Yall want to know why the flu doesn't exist? I came down with a 101.6 fever Monday afternoon. Tuesday I took a home covid test which came back negative. Because of that test my local doctors office set a virtual appointment with a nurse at 3pm. My symptoms are classic flu with fever, headache, muscle aches and chills/sweats mostly while I sleep. So when I get in my virtual she says I don't have enough symptoms to diagnose. I said what about the flu? I have the exact same symptoms as the couple times I've had the flu.

She said I would need to come in for a flu test, but that would require a 24hr covid test that could be scheduled for Wednesday and if it comes back negative on Thursday then they could probably get me in on Friday for the flu test because our appointments are booked. I told her I have a negative test in my hand and her response was that it would be a false negative and had to be one of theirs to which I said well your test could give a false positive. At that point she said I have "some viral infection" and the best course of action would be to ride it out and monitor symptoms.

They dont want to freaking test for the flu!!!!! Its all about the money under the guise of safety. Anyone with a fever? Covid test even though the last time I was in the office for a sinus infection without a fever they asked me to test and when I said no she told me that a fever isn't really a symptom. This is what they are telling people. No wonder the flu is non existent because people like me are just "riding it out".

I'm down to 99 fever today so I'm hoping it'll completely break tomorrow and be back to work Friday.

FWIW, the most disturbing question asked during my pre screen is if I feel safe at home. That has no bearing on my call.
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So here I am at day 8 since the first day I recorded a fever. It spiked last Thursday at almost 104 and today fever free. I've now missed over a weeks work, but they should have taken my home test result to get a flu test so I could get on Tamiflu Tuesday. Heck she could have diagnosed on the video call and not even required a flu test, but hey...show me the money sick man. I probably would have been back to work Friday....possibly even Thursday.

Now I've unnecessarily missed 4 days of work while feeling like I was cooking from the inside out for a day. I HATE Baylor Scott & White for putting me through this because they wanted me to pay for THEIR covid test. There's nothing but idiots in that organization but they are pretty much my only choice out here without driving 30-40 minutes.
 
Mr. Deez said:
When we were in Texas last month my wife went to Baylor Scott and White in Temple for several things while we were visiting my mother in law in Belton. They suck. I wasn't impressed at all.
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I have to disagree. They saved both of my brothers' lives back in the 70s after a horrible car wreck and my father had a quadruple bypass there 10 years ago that saved his life. The only negative I have to say about them is their administration. It's hard as hell to get your bills paid off. They send you a bill then another one comes after that and then another. You can't tell what you owe.
 
Garmel said:
I have to disagree. They saved both of my brothers' lives back in the 70s after a horrible car wreck and my father had a quadruple bypass there 10 years ago that saved his life. The only negative I have to say about them is their administration. It's hard as hell to get your bills paid off. They send you a bill then another one comes after that and then another. You can't tell what you owe.
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I have no doubt that several of the 'prestige' systems were good back then. However, the pursuit of profits and mergers has led to a dramatic degradation of many services. It is not unique to the medical arena though...
 
mb227 said:
I have no doubt that several of the 'prestige' systems were good back then. However, the pursuit of profits and mergers has led to a dramatic degradation of many services. It is not unique to the medical arena though...
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I would agree with that. Margins are TIGHT. I will say that the place in Tulsa that I want to be taken to if something happens is the one that I hate the most from a billing perspective. Sometimes quality medical/specialty care and ease of operations are not consistent with one another. I used to have to talk people off of the ledge about how "rude" their neurosurgeon was when they went for a visit. I would tell them you need to be concerned much more with his discernment and his ability to work well with fine instruments than how good he makes you feel emotionally. Tell someone that they might not need the magic bullet back surgery if they lost 30 pounds and participated in some physical therapy and/or exercise and they don't like you.
 
mb227 said:
I have no doubt that several of the 'prestige' systems were good back then. However, the pursuit of profits and mergers has led to a dramatic degradation of many services. It is not unique to the medical arena though...
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Possibly. We used them just two years ago when my dad at his age decided it was a good idea to climb a ladder. Broke a few bones in his neck but thankfully he's a tough old codger and there was no paralysis. I can't complain about the service.
 
OUBubba said:
I used to have to talk people off of the ledge about how "rude" their neurosurgeon was when they went for a visit. I would tell them you need to be concerned much more with his discernment and his ability to work well with fine instruments than how good he makes you feel emotionally.
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Yet when it comes to electing a POTUS you don't heed your own advice
 
Garmel said:
I have to disagree. They saved both of my brothers' lives back in the 70s after a horrible car wreck and my father had a quadruple bypass there 10 years ago that saved his life. The only negative I have to say about them is their administration. It's hard as hell to get your bills paid off. They send you a bill then another one comes after that and then another. You can't tell what you owe.
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Two points on this. First, it's not at all the same company as it was in the 1970s. Furthermore, the merger with Baylor occurred less than ten years ago. Good chance it's not even particularly close to the same folks who did your dad's bypass surgery.

Second, the administration is a big deal. Good doctors are fine, but there's a shitload of bureaucracy between those good doctors and the patients - both before and after the care is rendered. If they suck (as they do), it matters a lot.

FWIW, I'm no defender of socialized medicine, but we got treated much better by doctors in Germany and even better by the NHS in the UK. And I have plenty of complaints about them. Frankly, even though it's a true socialized system in the NHS (unlike in Germany), getting appointments has been easier here than it was with Baylor S&W.
 
Mr. Deez said:
Two points on this. First, it's not at all the same company as it was in the 1970s. Furthermore, the merger with Baylor occurred less than ten years ago. Good chance it's not even particularly close to the same folks who did your dad's bypass surgery.

Second, the administration is a big deal. Good doctors are fine, but there's a shitload of bureaucracy between those good doctors and the patients - both before and after the care is rendered. If they suck (as they do), it matters a lot.

FWIW, I'm no defender of socialized medicine, but we got treated much better by doctors in Germany and even better by the NHS in the UK. And I have plenty of complaints about them. Frankly, even though it's a true socialized system in the NHS (unlike in Germany), getting appointments has been easier here than it was with Baylor S&W.
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Yeah, appointments are hard. I was going to see if I could see one of their asthma specialists one time and they said it would take 3 months to see him. Nope to that.
 
horninchicago said:
Listen up. In post 9997, you asked me if a raffle was going to change my mind. I said I know nothing of a raffle. I didn't say I don't understand whatever raffle you are talking about. If there has been discussion of a raffle, I am not aware of it.

So, I'm not sure what your beef is with me, but I'm getting tired of your crap and quoting me with stupid *** comments.

Okay?
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Go back a little further to post 9903 and you'll see where you jumped in on a raffle discussion with Seattle Husker and me. No beef. Just very odd that you entered a conversation then acted like you didn't know what was going on.
 
n64ra said:
Go back a little further to post 9903 and you'll see where you jumped in on a raffle discussion with Seattle Husker and me. No beef. Just very odd that you entered a conversation then acted like you didn't know what was going on.
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I have him on Ignore, so I guess that explains it. Didn't know until now I was involved in a conversation involving that poster.

My apologies.

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Garmel said:
Yeah, appointments are hard. I was going to see if I could see one of their asthma specialists one time and they said it would take 3 months to see him. Nope to that.
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If you're in Austin or Dallas, you have plenty of choices. If a doctor is booked, you can find someone else pretty easily. However, if you're in the Temple/Belton area, there aren't a lot of options. (For obvious reasons, not many docs want to be in Temple. Belton's quite a bit nicer and is growing fast, but it's still a fairly small town.)

As ****** as the NHS is, I live in a village of about 2,800 people. There is a small doctor's office here (they call it a "surgery"). If I send the office a message through their website, I can at least be on the phone with an actual doctor inside of 24 hours. Even though it's a government entity, it's far less bureaucratic than a place like Baylor S&W.
 
Mr. Deez said:
If you're in Austin or Dallas, you have plenty of choices. If a doctor is booked, you can find someone else pretty easily. However, if you're in the Temple/Belton area, there aren't a lot of options. (For obvious reasons, not many docs want to be in Temple. Belton's quite a bit nicer and is growing fast, but it's still a fairly small town.)

As ****** as the NHS is, I live in a village of about 2,800 people. There is a small doctor's office here (they call it a "surgery"). If I send the office a message through their website, I can at least be on the phone with an actual doctor inside of 24 hours. Even though it's a government entity, it's far less bureaucratic than a place like Baylor S&W.
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The hospitals that are the nicest and the cheapest are the ones that are physician owned. They have no ER so they get no emergent things and only schedule things that are payable. It's an example that if everyone has a payer care is better and cheaper. The need to cover the uninsured is a drain on the system.
 
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