Coronavirus

[Garmel]

For Oklahoma residents only:

 

[horninchicago]

I figured that was a parody.

 

[Monahorns]

What do you have to say about the full ICU’s? I do think this thing is getting less dangerous AND more people have the antibody and are getting the vaccine. I expect by summer we will be good. The next month, at least in Oklahoma, is going to be a poop show.

I haven't heard of any ICUs that are actually anymore full than any other year.

Gavin Newsom claimed they were at 0 available beds but he changed how they count open beds. They were holding multiple beds open for contingency. But when you looked at the actual number, there were open beds, about the same as always.

 

[OUBubba]

I haven't heard of any ICUs that are actually anymore full than any other year.

Gavin Newsom claimed they were at 0 available beds but he changed how they count open beds. They were holding multiple beds open for contingency. But when you looked at the actual number, there were open beds, about the same as always.

Then you haven’t been trying to place icu patients in Oklahoma. Kansas City, wichita, St. Louis were all full. Admittedly this was a few weeks ago. It’s still full in the tertiary facilities in Oklahoma.

 

[AustinHorn24]

What does he get paid fro every vaccine he gives? Yes, I'm cynical of "doctors".

Every single doctor I know (and I know hundreds of them) vaccinates their own children.

But yeah sure I guess they're just willing to pump anything into their kids if they get paid for it, am I right?

 

[horninchicago]

Every single doctor I know (and I know hundreds of them) vaccinates their own children.

But yeah sure I guess they're just willing to pump anything into their kids if they get paid for it, am I right?

I pretty much never understand any of your gibberish.

 

[AustinHorn24]

I pretty much never understand any of your gibberish.

I would imagine not, becuase you don't understand the reimbursement rates for CPT codes 90460 or 90461.

I'll wait while you go look up what I'm talking about.

 

[horninchicago]

I would imagine not, becuase you don't understand the reimbursement rates for CPT codes 90460 or 90461.

I'll wait while you go look up what I'm talking about.

You'll be waiting a long time because I don't care.

 

[Monahorns]

Then you haven’t been trying to place icu patients in Oklahoma. Kansas City, wichita, St. Louis were all full. Admittedly this was a few weeks ago. It’s still full in the tertiary facilities in Oklahoma.

What were the actual % availability numbers?

 

[Mr. Deez]

They made me take in my tushy. This wasn’t an option.

Would you have chosen it if it was an option?

Doctor - I can give you a shot in your buttocks or your penis.

Patient - I'll take that needle shoved into my junk.

That exchange has never happened in the history of civilization.

 

[Mr. Deez]

Every single doctor I know (and I know hundreds of them) vaccinates their own children.

But yeah sure I guess they're just willing to pump anything into their kids if they get paid for it, am I right?

You do know that vaccinating in general and taking this particular vaccine at this particular time are very separate issues, right?

 

[theiioftx]

As Bubba states, ICU’s are full everywhere. However, ICU’s are not the only place a Covid patient can be treated. ICU capacity has been a misleading narrative since March.

 

[Joe Fan]

The UK is on a roll too
Biden staff reportedly very jealous they can only watch

 

[Mr. Deez]

As Bubba states, ICU’s are full everywhere. However, ICU’s are not the only place a Covid patient can be treated. ICU capacity has been a misleading narrative since March.

This entire pandemic has been defined by misleading narratives. Basically context is completely absent from all narratives.

 

[Mr. Deez]

I'm not the only one who isn't in a big hurry to get the vaccine. Link.

 

[theiioftx]

I’ve posted this before, but we are seeing about 50% of our doctors and nurses declining as well. After 9 months of living with it, I think most realize they are not going to die if they get it.

Mrs II’s got her first round last week. She took it because she thinks it means a quicker return to normalcy for everyone. She doesn’t agree with my view that ultimately we will not see enough vaccinated to achieve that goal. I don’t argue with her though, she controls an essential asset in our marriage.

 

[Horn6721]

iis?
The remote?

 

[theiioftx]

And let me just state this, hospitals are businesses. They are not worried about running out of beds because of Covid. They are worried about running out of beds for inpatient surgical stays. They make money in the operating rooms. If they cannot do a surgery due to not having a bed, that’s the problem.

 

[horninchicago]

And let me just state this, hospitals are businesses. They are not worried about running out of beds because of Covid. They are worried about running out of beds for inpatient surgical stays. They make money in the operating rooms. If they cannot do a surgery due to not having a bed, that’s the problem.

That, in a nutshell, is what I have been tying to get across. It is the business and job of hospitals, not the government, to provide beds and care for a virus, if it is even necessary.

 

[Mr. Deez]

The remote?

The older you get, the more important the remote gets.

 

[theiioftx]

The older you get, the more difficult the remote gets.

Fixed it for you.

 

[mchammer]

I figured that was a parody.

I think you are right.

 

[OUBubba]

Would you have chosen it if it was an option?

Doctor - I can give you a shot in your buttocks or your penis.

Patient - I'll take that needle shoved into my junk.

That exchange has never happened in the history of civilization.

I was being a smart arse. Tushy wasn’t an option either. Left arm was my choice.

 

[AustinHorn24]

You do know that vaccinating in general and taking this particular vaccine at this particular time are very separate issues, right?

Of course they are. I would be wary of getting the current vaccine because it doesn't have a lot of data yet on it.

I'm simply refuting the absurd notion that doctors are going to give their own kids vaccinations that are supposedly dangerous for them because they are getting paid by big pharma, that's all.

 

[Monahorns]

And let me just state this, hospitals are businesses. They are not worried about running out of beds because of Covid. They are worried about running out of beds for inpatient surgical stays. They make money in the operating rooms. If they cannot do a surgery due to not having a bed, that’s the problem.

Then the medical industry needs to unsell its soul to the devil and fight to end certificate of need laws. You wouldn't have to worry about beds if you had the freedom to manage your business as you please. Quit working with the criminals and start serving customers.

 

[Monahorns]

That, in a nutshell, is what I have been tying to get across. It is the business and job of hospitals, not the government, to provide beds and care for a virus, if it is even necessary.

Unfortunately. Only half right.

 

[theiioftx]

Then the medical industry needs to unsell its soul to the devil and fight to end certificate of need laws. You wouldn't have to worry about beds if you had the freedom to manage your business as you please. Quit working with the criminals and start serving customers.

I agree. Also stop the monopolies of Group Purchasing Organizations.

 

[Horn6721]

What are Group Purchasing Organizations?

 

[theiioftx]

It is a bit complicated to explain on a message board. But basically an entity that gathers up hospitals, practices etc as members for buying power against manufacturers, service providers etc. If a hospital is a member, they get rebates for buying on the GPO contract. Meanwhile, the GPO charges the manufacturers a percentage of purchases by members. They are very heavy handed and will destroy a company if they don't give in to their demands. Think of it as the MOB leaving on local businesses.

Watched the movie Puncture if you get a chance. I cannot remember if it was a true story or based on a true story, but generally describes what I am posting about.

 

[Mr. Deez]

They're closing schools here in the UK, but he says it should be over in February. I'm not holding my breath.

Fuckin' Boris Johnson . . .