Coronavirus

Bubba I’ll assume your Dr’s wife is a clinician of some sort. Yes there is lots of stressful work and the typically understaffed facilities are feeling it. When you look at actual utilization data versus worked hours, it’s not out of line. But the stress is astronomical. Right now, there is no bed capacity issue. Actual data proves it.
 
So, should we just lockdown forever? We locked down and flattened the curve. This "spike" was expected. It needs to spike, everyone needs to be exposed, some will die. The herd immunity will take over.

You're welcome.
 
Wife retired from a San Antonio airline 2 years ago. She got a text today informing her that one of her airline buddies just died of COVID. She was a lady in her 60s. But, as she texted and talked to the the people that she still knows, she kept hearing About other people that have COVID. It was pretty amazing. I’m estimating at least 10% of their workforce has it.
 
I’m late to this phase of the discussion so forgive me if this is repetitious.

Given that a tremendous number of non- Covid “elective” procedures — perhaps 90 percent (just a guess) were put off from March through June, wouldn’t the pent up demand alone put enormous pressure on the hospital system? Add to that the fact that staff was furloughed during the quarantine period due to lack of demand for services and you have a formula to massively stress the system, Covid or no Covid.
 
dukesteer said:
I’m late to this phase of the discussion so forgive me if this is repetitious.

Given that a tremendous number of non- Covid “elective” procedures — perhaps 90 percent (just a guess) were put off from March through June, wouldn’t the pent up demand alone put enormous pressure on the hospital system? Add to that the fact that staff was furloughed during the quarantine period due to lack of demand for services and you have a formula to massively stress the system, Covid or no Covid.
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Filing a report that you have failed to engage in fear porn.
 
dukesteer said:
I’m late to this phase of the discussion so forgive me if this is repetitious.

Given that a tremendous number of non- Covid “elective” procedures — perhaps 90 percent (just a guess) were put off from March through June, wouldn’t the pent up demand alone put enormous pressure on the hospital system? Add to that the fact that staff was furloughed during the quarantine period due to lack of demand for services and you have a formula to massively stress the system, Covid or no Covid.
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Now you are talking my world. Killing elective cases killed 80% of our revenue in the OR. That is the hospital engine. As well, their routine census and ER died due to the panic. Some healthcare workers got furloughed and filed for unemployment while others became overworked and stressed.

Given America has been through multiple pandemics with never shutting down the economy or healthcare is history and fact. Liberal cities and states as well as spineless republicans like Abbott are killing the greatest country on earth. It’s 100% about removing Trump.

Some of my client hospitals ran 125% of normal volumes in June while others did 80%. The ASC’s are overwhelmed due to fear of people going to the hospital. More risky procedures are being done outpatient in ASC’s which hurts hospitals and potentially puts patients at risk.
 
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Liberal cities and states as well as spineless republicans like Abbott are killing the greatest country on earth. It’s 100% about removing Trump.
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I don't think Abbott will be elected again. No one likes him, R or D.
 
This all about politics. If covid is that bad why aren't we seeing and hearing of bodies piling up in the streets of third world countries who have no infrastructure to handle this at all? Because its all ********. Covid exists but is not worth what these people are doing to this country.
 
Monahorns said:
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Liberal cities and states as well as spineless republicans like Abbott are killing the greatest country on earth. It’s 100% about removing Trump.
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I don't think Abbott will be elected again. No one likes him, R or D.[/QUOTE]
6 months ago, Abbott could have been reelected in a landslide. Now he will be primaried hard if he is foolish enough to run.
 
I've never liked Abbott, because he's a hypocritical hack. However, this won't sink him. He isn't up for reelection until 2022. Nobody will be thinking about this by then. That's especially true if Trump loses. He'll position himself as the anti-Biden and get his primary voters excited about him again.
 
I think you are wrong Deez. He is going to be responsible for many small business closures across the state. People won’t forget that.
 
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1-2 weeks more of this hysteria and then it slowly goes away between now and October. There is only 1 surge of this virus.
 
4th_floor said:
As of tonight, still 97 available ICU beds in Houston according to official State of Texas statistics. You couldn't tell that by listening to the local news.
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A Covid patient is not automatically sent to the ICU. Hospitals have set up isolation wards where they can still be treated/isolated. Also, the army has set up facilities that are ready to go if needed. Some are within unoccupied floors in hospitals as well as stand alone buildings that were vacant. You won’t hear that on CNN or any other propaganda “news” organizations.

Race to build temporary hospitals nationwide as coronavirus spreads
 
This is how you know it’s political. 2018 Tuberculosis infected 10 million people and 1.5 million died (covid has 572,909 Deaths) There weren’t shutdowns, no mention of mask, no social distancing. Tuberculosis is directly infecting people by air when coughing, sneezing, and even talking to someone up close.

it’s unbelievable that people don’t see this for what it is.
 
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I think you are wrong Deez. He is going to be responsible for many small business closures across the state. People won’t forget that.
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A few will blame him. Most won't, and even fewer will still be mad about this when it has been over for three years. We have short memories. His war chest will scare off any serious primary challenger.

In the general, what choice do you have? You can vote for Abbott or some liberal freak show like Beta. Like I said, I don't like Abbott, but there's no modern Democrat I'd support over him. John Sharp? Out of electoral politics. Bill White? Can't win a primary - too white and not liberal enough. Farouk Shami? Actually a pretty decent guy. Too weird and not hateful enough to win a primary.

So yeah, Abbott will be fine when it matters.
 
4th_floor said:
As of tonight, still 97 available ICU beds in Houston according to official State of Texas statistics. You couldn't tell that by listening to the local news.
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The data on Florida is out now too
Another scaremonger hotspot

And after a week of nightmare headlines about Florida, and about 70,000 new cases (i.e., positive tests), hospitals have a grand total of 130 more patients (~2.5%) in ICU beds statewide than they had last Sunday.
Can’t make it up.
45 deaths on the day, in a state with ~20 million people


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I've never liked Abbott, because he's a hypocritical hack. However, this won't sink him. He isn't up for reelection until 2022. Nobody will be thinking about this by then. That's especially true if Trump loses. He'll position himself as the anti-Biden and get his primary voters excited about him again.
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We are too lazy and careless. We get it.

I for one won't ever vote for him again. Of course I may not be able to get off my couch to vote at all since I am so lazy and careless.
 
I'm already dead because I don't wear a mask while walking outside.

I call it systemic death. It is invisible and ineffectual but an unequivocal truth that we must force people to believe.
 
We just got back from vacation in Florida. One of my wife's friends told her she would not see my wife until we have been back 2 weeks. She told my wife we were going to the worst possible place for CV in the country. We both had a good laugh about that over beers at a microbrewery in Miami.
 
Monahorns said:
We are too lazy and careless. We get it.

I for one won't ever vote for him again. Of course I may not be able to get off my couch to vote at all since I am so lazy and careless.
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No, it won't be laziness and carelessness. It'll be prioritizing other issues. As you know, the laziness and carelessness relates to school board elections in which virtually nobody votes or tries to know anything about the candidates. Abbott will win not because people won't turn out or learn about him but because this issue will be enough in the rearview mirror that people won't be casting their ballots based on it, especially when he's up against a left wing freak show.
 
I35 said:
This is how you know it’s political. 2018 Tuberculosis infected 10 million people and 1.5 million died (covid has 572,909 Deaths) There weren’t shutdowns, no mention of mask, no social distancing. Tuberculosis is directly infecting people by air when coughing, sneezing, and even talking to someone up close.

it’s unbelievable that people don’t see this for what it is.
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TB is a developing country disease and Covid-19 is not.

TB affects about 10 million people worldwide every single year, and it's the same 2 regions of the globe that are always affected by it. It's declining in infection rate by about 2 percent every year as well. The goal to eliminate it by 2050 (according to the WHO) would need about a 4-5% reduction each year.

For the US, the current Covid case rate is about 10.5 per 100K. You'd have to go back to 1982 to see that same rate for TB. 1,800 people in the US died from TB that year. 70 percent of those deaths were foreign-born.

They already politicize TB in places like India and the Philippines. If you want the US to follow suit, you're going to need a different type of evidence to show how Covid-19 is not as harmful here.
 
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