Coronavirus

dukesteer said:
Very interesting perspective. My frustration is simply, where were all the naysayers in mid-March or on April 1st? ...
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i think the biggest issue in that period was China. They were lying, withholding or hiding data and in some cases even destroying it. The rest of the world had to wait for it to affect Italy and other places to have reliable information. This whole event would have gone much differently had the Chinese been open and honest from the start.
 
This may explain why some people fair better when hit with COVID-19: T cells found in COVID-19 patients ‘bode well’ for long-term immunity
T cells found in COVID-19 patients ‘bode well’ for long-term immunity

Immune warriors known as T cells help us fight some viruses, but their importance for battling SARS-CoV-2, the virus that causes COVID-19, has been unclear. Now, two studies reveal infected people harbor T cells that target the virus—and may help them recover. Both studies also found some people never infected with SARS-CoV-2 have these cellular defenses, most likely because they were previously infected with other coronaviruses.

“This is encouraging data,” says virologist Angela Rasmussen of Columbia University. Although the studies don’t clarify whether people who clear a SARS-CoV-2 infection can ward off the virus in the future, both identified strong T cell responses to it, which “bodes well for the development of long-term protective immunity,” Rasmussen says. The findings could also help researchers create better vaccines.​
 
I think LH deliberately posts stuff that he knows will be exposed. Surely he is not that sloppy

Yesterday he posted the story on the choir practice on March 10 in Washington 13 days before any stay at home order was in place.
Now this
 
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Horn6721 said:
I think LH deliberately posts stuff that he knows will be exposed. Surely he is not that sloppy

Yesterdayhe posted the story on the choir practice on March 10 in Washington 13 days before any stay at home order was in place.
Now this
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You're giving LH too much credit. Deep down he still thinks he's right despite the evidence presented to him.
 
Some interesting polling
Our media botched the virus crisis, made it ‘worse’

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Mr. Deez said:
I'm not making a perfect comparison, no. What I'm really suggesting is that it isn't an all or nothing issue. We're better off if people wear them even if done imperfectly but generally correctly than if nobody wore them at all. Are they wearing petri dishes on their faces? I don't know, but I know that we seem to be heading in the right direction on containing the virus without a big upswing in illnesses likely caused by wearing a less than sterile mask.

And again, I fuckin hate wearing a mask.
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I agree with you. I hate wearing it but it keeps me from infecting others if I'm an asymptomatic carrier, as about 50-60% of the people who get the virus are. If we all wear them we could limit growth.


BHICqft
 
Bubba, that tweet is a hoax. Virus don't grow in cultures. That is a bacteria test. Virus are smaller than bacteria meaning more of them will go through masks. It is a misleading pseudo-study meant to scare people.
 
Plus there is NO evidence that asymptomatic people are contagious, and if they are the types of cases you will most likely get from them would also be asymptomatic or slight symptoms due to viral load. Again the fear of asymptomatic carriers as silent killers is just another ploy to scare people.

Another study was saying the infectiousness has a smaller window than at first thought. I think it was 2 days before peak symptoms and then 11 days after infection no contagiousness.
 
Garmel said:
*sigh* This is the same study.
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It's like those Americans that travel abroad but don't speak the language...they figure they will just keep repeating something over and over, often getting louder in the process.

LH proves time and again that idiots are like flypaper...the stupid crap just keeps sticking to them.
 
Pomspoms said:
It is an airborne virus in sneezes and coughing and singing. Everyone knows this.
I Don't mind going out in public. I wear a mask everywhere In case I'm asymptomatic. Also i sometimes wear a bandana over my mask in a more crowded place. Perhaps I will save a few people from getting sick and dying and for my own protection. I wish everyone would do the same. This business about a mask being harmful is stupid.
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An Airborne virus can live without it's host, this virus dies quickly without a host.


Sangre Naranjada said:
By definition, that is not airborne. That is droplet-borne. So if everyone knows it, everyone is wrong.

Airborne spread diseases include: chickenpox, tuberculosis. Droplet spread happens when germs traveling inside droplets that are coughed or sneezed from a sick person enter the eyes, nose, or mouth of another person.
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Looks like someone paid attention in Micro Biology class


Pomspoms said:
Technically speaking it may not be airborne but since it does travel in the air then that's close of enough for me!
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Slice it any way you want, this is not an Airborne virus.


caryhorn said:
100,000 dead in 2 1/2 months is very deadly. Shocking how insensitive your remark is. 100,000 dead easily translates into 1,000,000 people in less than 90 days whose lives are changed forever.

And the end is not in sight.

Monstrous.
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The average Flu season kills about 80,000 people in about 5 months. What is your point? It's worse than the Flu, but not by much, and the Flu can kill healthy as will and the old and infirm.

BurntOrangeLH said:
Yup, the droplets (and pollution particles according to Italian researchers) are airborne. Nothing new there. Well, maybe for some.
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Again, if this was an airborne virus, then the 6 feet rule would be meaningless.

BurntOrangeLH said:
More than Vietnam and Korea together, combat missions that lasted about 9+ years and 2.5 years. Not trivial.
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I don't have the number of deaths for Vietnam and Korea, but I'm pretty sure both combined was around 80K which is what the average flu kills every year.

But don't let a worthless fact get in the way of a good story.
 
New York, Texas See Fewest COVID-19 Fatalities Since March
New York Gov. Andrew Cuomo told reporters Tuesday that the state recorded just 73 deaths linked to the new disease over the past 24 hours.
Texas, meanwhile, saw the fewest fatalities with COVID-19 since the end of March, Gov. Gregg Abbott said Monday.

The state recorded just eight deaths on March 25 of people who tested positive for the CCP virus."

What will the naysayers say now? Us opening up was supposed to create the next Hot spot
 
Horn6721 said:
New York, Texas See Fewest COVID-19 Fatalities Since March
New York Gov. Andrew Cuomo told reporters Tuesday that the state recorded just 73 deaths linked to the new disease over the past 24 hours.
Texas, meanwhile, saw the fewest fatalities with COVID-19 since the end of March, Gov. Gregg Abbott said Monday.

The state recorded just eight deaths on March 25 of people who tested positive for the CCP virus."

What will the naysayers say now? Us opening up was supposed to create the next Hot spot
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Who the hell cares what happened on March 25?? :smile1:
 
OUBubba said:
I agree with you. I hate wearing it but it keeps me from infecting others if I'm an asymptomatic carrier, as about 50-60% of the people who get the virus are. If we all wear them we could limit growth.


BHICqft
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All she proved is that she has a dirty mouth. That is bacteria - not the virus.
 
Monahorns said:
Plus there is NO evidence that asymptomatic people are contagious, and if they are the types of cases you will most likely get from them would also be asymptomatic or slight symptoms due to viral load. Again the fear of asymptomatic carriers as silent killers is just another ploy to scare people.

Another study was saying the infectiousness has a smaller window than at first thought. I think it was 2 days before peak symptoms and then 11 days after infection no contagiousness.
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I've read that pre-symptomatic and asymptomatic carriers do spread the virus. There are multiple case studies documenting it. They do NOT shed it as widely but they do shed the virus.
 
Science isn't allowed in the trailer park. Everyone is waiting on you to edit the false post. These are all examples of why few people trust the media or the CDC on this virus. Too much false or incorrect information.
 
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