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My assumption has been that Trump would be taking hydroxychloroquine. My only surprise is that he's been doing it for only a week and a half.
 
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Haters at FoxNews now drinking the HaterAid™ as well. What gives?

"The VA study, to which the president alluded, wasn't a loaded political one. It was a test on patients there and those who took it in a vulnerable population, including those with respiratory or other conditions. They died," Cavuto said. "I want to stress again. They died."

The nationwide study in veterans hospitals, which was released last month, was not a rigorous experiment. But with 368 patients, it was the largest look so far at the effects of hydroxychloroquine taken with or without the antibiotic azithromycin for COVID-19.

"If you are in a risky population here and you are taking this as a preventative treatment to ward off the virus, or in a worst case scenario, you are dealing with the virus and you are in this vulnerable population it will kill you," Cavuto warned. "I cannot stress enough. This will kill you."

What a drama queen! And not one lick of credible evidence or scientific study NOT bought and paid for by the globalists.

Neil Cavuto reacts to Trump taking hydroxychloroquine: 'A leap that should not be taken casually'
 
The VA patients had had the virus for some time and had at least one severe underlying issue. Several had several issues.
But ignore facts and continue to be faux outraged
 
LongestHorn said:
Haters at FoxNews now drinking the HaterAid™ as well. What gives?

"The VA study, to which the president alluded, wasn't a loaded political one. It was a test on patients there and those who took it in a vulnerable population, including those with respiratory or other conditions. They died," Cavuto said. "I want to stress again. They died."

The nationwide study in veterans hospitals, which was released last month, was not a rigorous experiment. But with 368 patients, it was the largest look so far at the effects of hydroxychloroquine taken with or without the antibiotic azithromycin for COVID-19.

"If you are in a risky population here and you are taking this as a preventative treatment to ward off the virus, or in a worst case scenario, you are dealing with the virus and you are in this vulnerable population it will kill you," Cavuto warned. "I cannot stress enough. This will kill you."

What a drama queen! And not one lick of credible evidence or scientific study NOT bought and paid for by the globalists.

Neil Cavuto reacts to Trump taking hydroxychloroquine: 'A leap that should not be taken casually'
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Looks like Fox is more fair and balanced than the other channels, right?

Cavuto is entitled to his opinion, as is Chris Wallace and Juan Williams and Donna Brazil.

So what's your point? That not everyone on Fox agrees with eachother all the time? I guess you finally pulled your head out of your ***.
 
Again, can we just let doctors prescribe or not prescribe hydroxychloroquine as they see fit? The fact that this has become political is so friggin' stupid.

My wife puts some weird-smelling prescription cream on her elbows at night for psoriasis. I don't have psoriasis, so if I put it on my elbow, I'd probably grow a second nutsack on my elbow. So you know what? I don't use it. Some drugs help some people and really mess up or even kill other people. That's why we require prescriptions for them. Only in a world of partisan idiocy is this a point of controversy.
 
Mr. Deez said:
Again, can we just let doctors prescribe or not prescribe hydroxychloroquine as they see fit? The fact that this has become political is so friggin' stupid.

My wife puts some weird-smelling prescription cream on her elbows at night for psoriasis. I don't have psoriasis, so if I put it on my elbow, I'd probably grow a second nutsack on my elbow. So you know what? I don't use it. Some drugs help some people and really mess up or even kill other people. That's why we require prescriptions for them. Only in a world of partisan idiocy is this a point of controversy.
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Id love a second nutsack... Do me a solid and post what cream she's using.
 
NJlonghorn said:
I've understood this to be your position from the very start. You believe that doctors are withholding hydrocloroquine treatment for partisan political reasons. I don't. I believe that doctors are using HCL in some cases and not others, in a genuine effort to figure out what works.

I agree with part of your point. When a patient is on the verge of death, and we don't know what to do, we should try something -- even if it is unproven. But I don't agree that that "something" should always be (or include) HCL. In contrast, I prefer the approach that the medical community is taking -- try a variety of promising approaches under controlled conditions to figure out what works and what doesn't.

As I mentioned in my last post, HCL is just one of many treatments showing some level of promise. So let's suppose there are 10 experimental treatments, each of which is between 5% and 25% likely to work. Do you think we should give every patient all 10 of those treatments? Simultaneously, or in series? If in series, how long do you wait after giving one treatment before trying the next? What if there are 20 promising experimental treatments?

I can think of only two reasons to give every patient HCL. The first would be if we knew that we could improve patients' chances by adding HCL to whatever other treatment we are using. But that is not known at this time. It is just as possible that using HCL interferes with other, more promising treatments. We will never know if we don't continue experimenting in a controlled way.

The second plausible reason to give HCL to everyone -- and the reason I think you and your far-right brethren continue to push HCL so fervently -- is trying to prove President Trump right. That is just as partisan as not giving anyone HCL. The truly non-partisan approach is to continue to experiment until the medical community figures out what works best.

One final point. I support President Trump's actions to relax FDA rules on clinical trials. Those rules have always been unduly restrictive, and doubly so in the face of a rapidly-spreading disease. We have to be more nimble, and President Trump deserves credit for making that happen. Notably, he has made that happen for HCL and for numerous other experimental treatments. That is exactly the right approach.
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I think you’ll find this interesting.
Largest Statistically Significant Study by 6,200 Multi-Country Physicians on COVID-19 Uncovers Treatment Patterns and Puts Pandemic in Context - Sermo
 
2003TexasGrad said:
Looks like Fox is more fair and balanced than the other channels, right?
Cavuto is entitled to his opinion, as is Chris Wallace and Juan Williams and Donna Brazil.
So what's your point? That not everyone on Fox agrees with each other all the time? I guess you finally pulled your head out of your ***.
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That is funny. These people love to chant, "Fox News is a Monolith of sameness"
Then they get mad all over again when they realize that's not true.
 
Horn6721 said:
NJ
I only know of HCQ/z and remdesvir. One is decades old dirtt cheap and has been used successfully for thousands by reputable Docs all over the world
The other costs thousands and has so far not been used on as many.
If there are 2 that work Great

If you just step back and view the MSM coverage one can see the difference in coveragre of each drug and wonder why.
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The cynic in me suggests there is even more at play than the left's severe and seemingly incurable case of TDS. The anti crowd may very well have a vested interest in the more costly alternatives. There IS no money to be had in a medication that costs less than a quarter per tablet.

And yet, somehow Trump the evil capitalist is to blame...
 
mchammer said:
Opinion | Why Does Reopening Polarize Us?
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Because we have hysterical snowflakes who are afraid of everything and think their "authorities" are wise and sensible and well informed. Most of these same people probably still have jobs and paychecks so they can enjoy their lockdown fantasy in relative comfort while others are trying to survive the global dumbfuckery that government has perpetrated. Just a guess though, I didn't read the article yet
 
Driver 8 said:
Because we have hysterical snowflakes who are afraid of everything and think their "authorities" are wise and sensible and well informed. Most of these same people probably still have jobs and paychecks so they can enjoy their lockdown fantasy in relative comfort while others are trying to survive the global dumbfuckery that government has perpetrated. Just a guess though, I didn't read the article yet
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You should read it. It’s short and by Dan Crenshaw.
 
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