Coronavirus

In my opinion, testing rate needs to hit <5% positive in that for every one positive result likely means you test 20 others that had possible contact with the infected person. At that point, you have a chance for testing to work. So, basically 500k tests per day to identify 25000 positive cases.
 
mchammer said:
In my opinion, testing rate needs to hit <5% positive in that for every one positive result likely means you test 20 others that had possible contact with the infected person. At that point, you have a chance for testing to work. So, basically 500k tests per day to identify 25000 positive cases.
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No. Many tests are giving FALSE positives! Most of us are not Dr's. BUt the point is, don't let a Dr. with Political or Financial motivations mis inform you. Get multiple opinions, research testing. I know most of what Fauci is saying is wrong wrong wrong wrong! Someday, the truth will come out. Probably years from now or many months. Boosting immune systems of the younger less compromised populations in the US would have solved Coronavirus like it did H1N1. DNC and Media wont let that happen in an election year!

2020 is having less death from Flu, Pnuemonia than 2019 did. Rand Paul is a Dr. and he called out Fauci on the house floor! I will stand with Rand. He is right and not Fauci. Fauci has CAUSED more death, not prevented it! We have already established how death rates are about death WITH Covid 19 not FROM Covid 19. How many of these deaths were NOT Covid 19 causation?

The truth WILL come out. Don't back down, we need to be strong.
 
horninchicago said:
So, 6% of a number that has been falsely inflated to begin with.

Edit: Sorry, meaning the death number has been falsely inflated.
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But it's not falsely inflated. It's the case fatality rate, not the overall fatality rate. If idiots are using this as proof that 6% of society is going to die out from this, then just tell them it's the case rate. Or show an average of the serology studies that say anywhere from 1-5 percent of the US has already been exposed to it, which puts it down to maybe 3x-4x deadlier than the flu.

AC said:
No. Many tests are giving FALSE positives! Most of us are not Dr's. BUt the point is, don't let a Dr. with Political or Financial motivations mis inform you. Get multiple opinions, research testing. I know most of what Fauci is saying is wrong wrong wrong wrong! Someday, the truth will come out. Probably years from now or many months. Boosting immune systems of the younger less compromised populations in the US would have solved Coronavirus like it did H1N1. DNC and Media wont let that happen in an election year!

2020 is having less death from Flu, Pnuemonia than 2019 did. Rand Paul is a Dr. and he called out Fauci on the house floor! I will stand with Rand. He is right and not Fauci. Fauci has CAUSED more death, not prevented it! We have already established how death rates are about death WITH Covid 19 not FROM Covid 19. How many of these deaths were NOT Covid 19 causation?

The truth WILL come out. Don't back down, we need to be strong.
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I'm not sure what your advice is. But I'll go to a GP or an infectious disease specialist before an ophthalmologist if I'm infected with something like this.
 
Horns11 said:
But it's not falsely inflated. It's the case fatality rate, not the overall fatality rate. If idiots are using this as proof that 6% of society is going to die out from this, then just tell them it's the case rate. Or show an average of the serology studies that say anywhere from 1-5 percent of the US has already been exposed to it, which puts it down to maybe 3x-4x deadlier than the flu.
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If you think that any death occurs and even symptoms of COVID are present and that is what is listed as cause fo death, then I can't help you. That has been clearly proven to be the case. Birx herself stood up and said any person with COVID who dies, no matter what other underlying illness was present, will be a COVID death. It is inflated.
 
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.1 maybe .25% are numbers I’ve heard. I think you can punch holes in any number for death rate. We may never know. Just like the Flu.
 
Clean said:
Wow, if that group included a family member, I wonder if you'd still be so callous.
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Both my father and father-in-law are in very high risk categories. Acknowledging that this virus is thinning the herd in no way minimizes the personal toll it takes on those who have and those who will lose loved ones.

Facing a hard fact (the virus kills older and weaker people disproportionately) and stating it bluntly (thinning the herd) is not indicative of a lack of empathy, nor of sympathy.
 
AC said:
.1 maybe .25% are numbers I’ve heard. I think you can punch holes in any number for death rate. We may never know. Just like the Flu.
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Then you're either on Team "80 million people in the US are either infected or carriers," or you're on Team "doctors chalk it up to Covid-19 when it's actually pneumonia." Either way, this is with the strict measures that have been in place through the reopenings these past couple weeks.
 
I’m on team get America back to work again!

but chalk it up to pneumonia, flu, cancer, heart disease, COPD. We’re all pro America. That we should all agree on.
 
Last 3 days Texas daily rate averaged 23. Anything between 10-20 deaths per day seems like winning to me.
 
Austin_Bill said:
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This guy is probably the next best leader of the Republican party.
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While he is mostly solid, he also has taken a couple of odd public positions out of the blue that seemed to bought and paid for by corporate lobbyists. So I look at him cautious optinism. His career is young, hopefully he will learn and get better.
 
Current data suggests --
If you are under 24 years old there is a less than one in a million* chance you are going to die from the coronavirus
Even the under 54 group has a low risk
Should colleges really be 100% shut down over this?

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* the odds of being hit by lightning are 1 in 700,000
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This IMO is shameful --

"more than half of Maine's COVID-19 deaths took place in nursing homes"
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(Maine is run by a Democrat of course). We should have done more to protect those most vulnerable. It was so obvious. As proof of that, here was my idea back on March 21 in here --

" .... I think you raise an interesting question regarding the deployment of resources. I think an argument can be that we are spreading our resources too thin and that we could me much more efficient in that allocation. We are supposed to be going by the Imperial College of London guide on the most vulnerable. That is people of a certain age, people with pre-existing conditions and perhaps some with certain chronic conditions. According to the London school guide, the young and the healthy suffer no more than catching the common cold.

If this is this case, then maybe we should be devoting our resources to protecting those in the most "at risk" classes of Americans. For example, surround assisted living facilities with the Natl Guard if you have to. No one gets in except those who are absolutely necessary. No family. Actions like this would be much more efficient than what we are doing now, which is to shut everything down. Protect the most vulnerable and let the rest of us carry on, following normal flu season precautions. This would let the rest of the US economy continue to function. It seems to me that we are destroying what was the best US economy in ages when we dont have to. When this is all over, I think this will be one of the key issues we look back at to analyse whether our response was appropriate...."​

Coronavirus
 
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If Carlson was not talking about this on a national nightly news program, who would be?
I suggest no one would be
I also suggest we will probably see an effort in the future to get him off the air.
Which, if successful, would ironically prove his point here about censorship
 
OUBubba said:
A. I do watch too much tv. 42 minutes is how long it takes them to wrap up things.
B. Compare the US to other countries. He twiddled his little thumbs from the time before the Senate was briefed (1/24) and they dumped their stock until any real action was taken. He called it a hoax over a month later at a rally (2/28). So, please, don't try to act like he was taking it serious.
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Fauci praises Trump's response Dr. Fauci Testifies: Trump Admin Hit The ‘Accelerator In Every Aspect’ In Responding To Coronavirus
 
Should we be handing out Nobel Prizes to the doctors who have cured heart disease and strokes over the last 3 months?

They have basically reduced those deaths to near zero. It's remarkable
 
The "facts" that a politician will use as science:

Coronavirus in Austin: Stay-at-home orders saved 5,000 lives in Travis County, study says

“The point of this is to not be exact,” said Jennifer Kolker, associate dean for public health practice and clinical professor of health management and policy at Drexel University’s Dornsife School of Public Health. “The point ... to give some ideas of what the impact was. We looked at the 30 largest public health departments across the country to allow them to say ‘You know what I know this has been hard, and it feels like you are not doing anything, but you have done something. This is what the impact of it was.’”

Is it just me or did we not hear Gov. Cuomo say a majority of those who got sick (60%?) WERE SHELTERING IN PLACE?
 
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