Coronavirus

Monahorns said:
These writers show their bias clearly. Everything is disconcerting or scary. What they are finding is actually very encouraging. It means we are closer to herd immunity and statistically getting the infection isn't a threat.



The big difference is time scale. The Stanford and Boston studies show that the virus has been circulating for a longer period of time than expected to. The 2 boat cases contain a short duration for people to be in contact with each other. Plus, once they heard about the issue, they isolated. It isn't the same kind of event.
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Here’s where I see contradictions. Regardless of the time period, the two live examples (Diamond Princes and Roosevelt) indicate that roughly half of those who are infected will have symptoms of some kind. The Stanford study claimed basically about one or two percent have symptoms (50 times as many asymptotic walking around). The homeless survey said 146 out of 146 were asymptotic. Unless there are vastly different strains or the virus has greatly mutated, this shouldn’t be so.
 
If 1000 have the disease and 20 die, the mortality rate is 2%.

If 8000 have the disease, but we only know of 1000 - because the other 7000 are either asymptomatic or so mildly affected they don't report, the mortality rate is 0.25%.

The 2nd scenario is becoming much more strongly supported by evidence in numerous studies looking at people with antibodies to the virus rather than only looking at reported cases. And that is a very good thing.
 
Sangre, just don't put that on Facebook, they will fact check your post.

It happened to me over the weekend. I put an article saying similar things on Facebook and received a notice that their fact check service said the article is significantly false. Complete garbage.
 
I did not remember a House Committee voted in early Feb to rescind Ttump's travel ban
Or that he put a quarantine order on Americans flying back from China since the travel ban did not affect them.
 
Asymptomatic = carrier but no symptoms

Asymptotic = a line that continually approaches a given curve but does not meet it at any finite distance
 
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John could have had a heart attack or any pre morbidity condition and was counted as a Covid death. 88% to 94% of all Covid deaths reported had co morbidity which is a serious condition they were being treated for at the hospital. Lung Cancer, Heart Disease, Pnuemonia. Heart Disease alone kills 655K people a year in the US. Your stats ignore glaring truth. Most Covid deaths were about to die of something else. Not all but most. We’ve sent 2 hr videos about this which you ignore. This a flu pandemic with .05% to maybe .2% mortality rate. Media is just ramming this down our throats. Most is not accurate.
 
AC said:
John could have had a heart attack or any pre morbidity condition and was counted as a Covid death. 88% to 94% of all Covid deaths reported had co morbidity which is a serious condition they were being treated for at the hospital. Lung Cancer, Heart Disease, Pnuemonia. Heart Disease alone kills 655K people a year in the US. Your stats ignore glaring truth. Most Covid deaths were about to die of something else. Not all but most. We’ve sent 2 hr videos about this which you ignore. This a flu pandemic with .05% to maybe .2% mortality rate. Media is just ramming this down our throats. Most is not accurate.
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So wait... we're chalking up Covid deaths to anything but Covid? Where does this glaring truth come from? It said he was being treated for the virus, not another condition.

That's like saying Kobe Bryant died from bft but not the helicopter crash that caused the bft.
 
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I can't seem to find his account on Facebook. He's in Minnesota looking at the news source. You have to think a guy bragging about roaming around breaking lockdown on Facebook then suddenly admitting he's sick on Facebook sounds suspicious. Of course some people are stupid. I'll keep looking.
 
LongestHorn said:
If he was faking it, why would he then hide it from the public?
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I'm not saying he's faking it. I'm thinking one of your news sources is putting up ******** again. Why would a guy brag about beating lockdown then admit to being sick? If you got sick from beating lockdown would you then tell the world? Only two people with that name in Minnesota. One is 34 and one is 40. I'll keep looking.
 
Whether you get the virus protesting or going to the grocery store, there is a good chance most of us on this board are going to get it in the next 18 months.
 
Mr. Deez said:
First, was this a Washington, D.C. cut, or did we actually spend less money than before? Second, what would have been done with that money had it been sent? Third, do we only blame Trump, or do we also blame Congress? (Remember, he can't sign a bill they don't pass.)

Finally, do we only blame the $1.35B cut, or do we also blame the $6.25B cut that Obama signed a few years ago? Link.
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Classic psychological research shows that some people are naturally better at overriding their reflexive responses than others. This finding may help us understand why some people are more susceptible to fake news than others.

Researchers like Pennycook use a tool called the “cognitive reflection test” or CRT to measure this tendency. To understand how it works, consider the following question:

  • Emily’s father has three daughters. The first two are named April and May. What is the third daughter’s name?
Did you answer June? That’s the intuitive answer that many people give – but the correct answer is, of course, Emily.

To come to that solution, you need to pause and override that initial gut response. For this reason, CRT questions are not so much a test of raw intelligence, as a test of someone’s tendency to employ their intelligence by thinking things through in a deliberative, analytical fashion, rather than going with your initial intuitions. The people who don’t do this are often called “cognitive misers” by psychologists, since they may be in possession of substantial mental reserves, but they don’t “spend” them.

Cognitive miserliness renders us susceptible to many cognitive biases, and it also seems to change the way we consume information (and misinformation).
 
I had no luck with finding that Travis Wetzel on Facebook with that picture. I found one Travis Wetzel in Minnesota and this isn't him. There's not even that many in America with that name because most people have an H in there after the W. He could have taken the account down after being embarrassed but knowing the media it could very well be fake.
 
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