Chance of Football in 2020

SteveInAustin said:
During the the 2018-2019 flu season, 647,000 people were hospitalized and 61,200 died in the United States from the flu. Covid-19, by comparison, has resulted in 337,062 hospitalizations (fewer than the flu) and and 165,328 deaths in the United States. Covid-19 is comparable to a bad recent flu season. It has killed about 2.5 times as many as the flu does in a year. It mainly kills those over 80, and those over 60 with some other serious condition - just like the a normal flu does.

Covid-19 is not even comparable to the 1918 Spanish flu pandemic where 50 million people died worldwide, with a much smaller world population. The world population in 1918 was 1.8 billion, resulting in a death rate of 2.7% of the world's population.

By contrast, COVID-19 has killed 744,733 people worldwide out of a total of 7.8 billion people in the world in 2020, resulting in a death rate of 0.01% of the world's population. There are many other things that kill more way more than 700K people worldwide every year. For example, heart disease kills 17.9 million people worldwide every year.

We don't shut everything down, or stop playing football games, for the flu, nor should we. We should all take precautions, but not stop playing football games, or living our lives.
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Something to consider about the current state of things is that we have those Covid numbers with the restrictions in place (face masks, social distancing, people working from home, cancelling weddings or other activities, etc.). So how bad would the flu have been if those measures were in place? Or, to put it in a dark way, how bad would Covid be without those measures in place?
 
Horns11 said:
Something to consider about the current state of things is that we have those Covid numbers with the restrictions in place (face masks, social distancing, people working from home, cancelling weddings or other activities, etc.). So how bad would the flu have been if those measures were in place? Or, to put it in a dark way, how bad would Covid be without those measures in place?
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It would be the same.

Change my, and every other sane person's around here, mind.

Edit: Oops, I meant it would be better because of herd immunity etc. There will be no vaccine, so it needs to run its course. That should have already happened.

So, no need to change my mind.
 
mchammer said:
This shows you that B10 and PAC12 wanted to shutdown sports regardless of protocol....
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Agree. i think they thought everyone would follow them.
Their coaches are already fielding questions about recruiting and transfers - I bet they love that
 
Some people want us to schedule the Huskers. Not me
And the B1G apparently nixed any of their schools playing at all.
Desmond Howard said that the Big Ten should kick Nebraska out of the conference
from link
With the Big 12, ACC and SEC going forward with fall football, Nebraska — a dissenting vote in the Big Ten’s decision to cancel football in 2020 — came out swinging at the league’s decision. Head football coach Scott Frost and athletic director Bill Moos raised the possibility of Nebraska going rogue and trying to compete elsewhere — something that cannot happen if the school wanted to keep its lucrative Big Ten membership.
 
FWHORN said:
Yesterday Texas had almost 10,000 new cases (nationally spiked to over 54k cases), there has always been a Monday spike on the graph but this spike was particularly large and it is the sixth highest number of cases in Texas since this all began. That's before we reopen the schools and colleges and have people interacting in close quarters indoors on a much larger scale than is happening now.

I keep seeing coaches saying that it is safer for them to have the athletes in their programs and I absolutely think that is true but there is a difference between having them on campus and having them playing the games. What happens when they start going to class with 49,000 other students because they aren't in a bubble like the professionals will be, and then what happens when they travel en-masse to a road game and interact with hundreds of other players and coaches and officials during a game, all of whom have been interacting with people on their end. All assuming we don't have fans in the stands because don't get me started on 50,000 football fans interacting with each other and what that will do to spread this thing. However this plays out the concentric circles of exposure just get bigger and bigger and bigger and bigger.

I want this thing to go away, I want normal life back, but this just seems to me to be a recipe for making things so much worse. In the end I cannot escape the feeling that while I want to see college football, and I get that life has to go on, I just don't see how we possibly justify multiple super spreader events across a good bit of our country every single Saturday for the next several months when the infection rates are where they are at?
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Agreed they will be on campus but 80% of classes are not in person. 5% are in person with no more than 10-15 people in a room for social distancing purposes.
 
The real question is if Texas decided to have fans would you attend the game? I personally believe if teams even do 25% capacity. Many people will not go simply out of fear of getting the virus well those of us who actually have a fear of getting it. I personally am just fine watching the games online.

Hit the like button if you will go to the games.

Hit the agree button if you won't go to the games.
 
Jacob Johnson said:
The real question is if Texas decided to have fans would you attend the game? I personally believe if teams even do 25% capacity. Many people will not go simply out of fear of getting the virus well those of us who actually have a fear of getting it. I personally am just fine watching the games online.

Hit the like button if you will go to the games.

Hit the agree button if you won't go to the games.
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I'd go if it was full capacity, no masks.
 
SteveInAustin said:
During the the 2018-2019 flu season, 647,000 people were hospitalized and 61,200 died in the United States from the flu. Covid-19, by comparison, has resulted in 337,062 hospitalizations (fewer than the flu) and and 165,328 deaths in the United States. Covid-19 is comparable to a bad recent flu season. It has killed about 2.5 times as many as the flu does in a year. It mainly kills those over 80, and those over 60 with some other serious condition - just like the a normal flu does.

Covid-19 is not even comparable to the 1918 Spanish flu pandemic where 50 million people died worldwide, with a much smaller world population. The world population in 1918 was 1.8 billion, resulting in a death rate of 2.7% of the world's population.

By contrast, COVID-19 has killed 744,733 people worldwide out of a total of 7.8 billion people in the world in 2020, resulting in a death rate of 0.01% of the world's population. There are many other things that kill more way more than 700K people worldwide every year. For example, heart disease kills 17.9 million people worldwide every year.

We don't shut everything down, or stop playing football games, for the flu, nor should we. We should all take precautions, but not stop playing football games, or living our lives.
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I wasn't around in 1918 to compare to Spanish Flu but the 5th person I know died from Covid yesterday. She was like a 2nd mom to me. Yes, she had underlying health conditions just like the other 4 and yes she was probably in the last year or two of her life. But I can't think of a single person I have known in my previous 50 years on earth who died of the flu. So maybe I am an statistical aberration but I don't see the comparison for Covid to the Flu.

Having said that- we let our 12 year old go to a church camp with her friends in Keller last month before our move to Chicago and she came back with Covid. Having lived thru it, I can tell you that her symptoms were what I would call a mild flu at worse. 3 days of fatigue and congestion and loss of taste and smell. Our greatest fears were exposing someone else and trying to figure out how to maneuver through our move from DFW to Chicago in the middle of it all. We are here now, trying to find HIC's address so I can teepee his house in the middle of the night and my wife told me to keep our tix when the athletic dept calls so it looks like we will be making some trips back to ATX this fall.
 
What are ya'll hearing about tickets and seating? I am waiting to see if I get kicked to the upper deck with spacing and what they are doing with my OU tix.

UPDATE FROM THE TEXAS ATHLETICS DIRECTOR

Longhorn Nation, We Can Do This Together
Last week, we had so many of our staff members teaming up to reach out to all of you – our loyal and dedicated Longhorn Foundation members and season ticket holders – and we’re continuing that effort over the next two weeks or so. We’ve called season ticket holders who have decided to take this year off for now, and next plan to start calling season ticket holders who are still interested in attending games this year. All totaled, as of today we made more than 4,000 outbound calls and received nearly 2,000 inbound calls from you. I can’t thank you enough for taking the time to read our email, take it to heart and for spending time as we talked through the options with you.
 
LHABSOB said:
I wasn't around in 1918 to compare to Spanish Flu but the 5th person I know died from Covid yesterday. She was like a 2nd mom to me. Yes, she had underlying health conditions just like the other 4 and yes she was probably in the last year or two of her life. But I can't think of a single person I have known in my previous 50 years on earth who died of the flu. So maybe I am an statistical aberration but I don't see the comparison for Covid to the Flu.

Having said that- we let our 12 year old go to a church camp with her friends in Keller last month before our move to Chicago and she came back with Covid. Having lived thru it, I can tell you that her symptoms were what I would call a mild flu at worse. 3 days of fatigue and congestion and loss of taste and smell. Our greatest fears were exposing someone else and trying to figure out how to maneuver through our move from DFW to Chicago in the middle of it all. We are here now, trying to find HIC's address so I can teepee his house in the middle of the night and my wife told me to keep our tix when the athletic dept calls so it looks like we will be making some trips back to ATX this fall.
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Appreciate this post.
Very sorry to hear about your loved one.
And best of luck completing your move.
It is real tough but I think most of us have to keep going while trying to watch out for and care for those who are vulnerable. Most of all...They need to be careful themselves. It is a fine line to walk for all of us.
Always enjoy your posts, LHA. You seem like a very even handed fellow if I'm not mistaken.
I cannot answer your question on season tix. I live OOT and usually buy a mini plan +one other choice game each year. Not sure how many options I'll have this year.
All the best...
:hookem:
 
Sorry about your losses LHA, truly! But glad to hear it was tolerable for your daughter. Given you feelings surprised you let her go to camp. And I’m embarrassed because I feel I should know but who is HIC?
I’m guessing the move to Chicago was work? Guess it could have been family but hard for me to think a Chicago move out of just wanted to’ right now. Sorry, not meaning to be nosy just curious.
 
nashhorn said:
Sorry about your losses LHA, truly! But glad to hear it was tolerable for your daughter. Given you feelings surprised you let her go to camp. And I’m embarrassed because I feel I should know but who is HIC?
I’m guessing the move to Chicago was work? Guess it could have been family but hard for me to think a Chicago move out of just wanted to’ right now. Sorry, not meaning to be nosy just curious.
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I think he was talking about me. He can come T P my house, no worries. We can have drinks and admire his work.
 
RainH2burntO said:
I lived in Chicago for a year or two some years ago.
Really enjoyed my time there. Loved the people and made many memories, though I spent a good deal of my time working.
Good times...
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Chicago looks like it would be a great place for a vacation right now, a real riot for sure.
 
LHABSOB said:
I wasn't around in 1918 to compare to Spanish Flu but the 5th person I know died from Covid yesterday. She was like a 2nd mom to me. Yes, she had underlying health conditions just like the other 4 and yes she was probably in the last year or two of her life. But I can't think of a single person I have known in my previous 50 years on earth who died of the flu. So maybe I am an statistical aberration but I don't see the comparison for Covid to the Flu.

Having said that- we let our 12 year old go to a church camp with her friends in Keller last month before our move to Chicago and she came back with Covid. Having lived thru it, I can tell you that her symptoms were what I would call a mild flu at worse. 3 days of fatigue and congestion and loss of taste and smell. Our greatest fears were exposing someone else and trying to figure out how to maneuver through our move from DFW to Chicago in the middle of it all. We are here now, trying to find HIC's address so I can teepee his house in the middle of the night and my wife told me to keep our tix when the athletic dept calls so it looks like we will be making some trips back to ATX this fall.
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horninchicago said:
I think he was talking about me. He can come T P my house, no worries. We can have drinks and admire his work.
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I lived in Chicago for a year or two some years ago. Not many trees to TP.
Really liked my time there, though. Enjoyed the people and made many memories, although I spent a good deal of my time working. Went back later on a short trip and proposed to my (now) wife in that beautiful old church down in watertower area. Guess the town has changed quite a bit I gather.

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RainH2burntO said:
I lived in Chicago for a year or two some years ago. Not many trees to TP.
Really liked my time there, though. Enjoyed the people and made many memories, although I spent a good deal of my time working. Went back later on a short trip and proposed to my (now) wife in that beautiful old church down in watertower area. Guess the town has changed quite a bit I gather.

Edit: Sry..I edited this and inserted quotes I was responding to and it relocated post upon saving
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Lots of trees in the burbs where I live. Oops, I shouldn't let everyone know that.
 
nashhorn said:
. Given you feelings surprised you let her go to camp.
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So back in March when COVID broke out, my daughter came to us begging that if they had camp could she go with her friends. At the time, I carelessly said- 'Of course' thinking that one of two things would happen- COVID would blow over by July and all would be fine or things would continue in a lock down and camp would be canceled. Our church in Fort Worth canceled all summer camps but her friends church in Keller (Keystone- yeah their COVID outbreak was all over the DFW news) kept their camp. I spent 4th of July weekend in angst over whether to pull the plug and have my daughter pissed at me or let her go and trust all would be fine. Like most of us with COVID- we have to weigh the risk and make a decision. My wife and I made the decision to let her go. I was surprised to see the videos and photos from camp at how the kids weren't wearing masks and basically shoulder to shoulder crammed pack at worship and dance parties. BUT I am not going to blame the church, it was our decision as parents to let her go and ultimately the risk we took that she would get COVID. Fortunately like I said her symptoms were mild and I feel more strongly now that it is not as big of a risk for a healthy young person.

nashhorn said:
I’m guessing the move to Chicago was work? Guess it could have been family but hard for me to think a Chicago move out of just wanted to’ right now. Sorry, not meaning to be nosy just curious.
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Yes- work promotion. Moved into the new house last week and loving it so far- will probably be hating it in Feb. I say 'Chicago' but I am out in the western burbs. It's like someone in McKinney or Southlake saying they live in Dallas. We have a 7th and 8th grader so we thought it was better to get the move done before school starts rather than prolong it. And our oldest will be a freshman at Purdue moving in next week so I think my wife was happy to get up close to her baby boy. Still pisses me off that UT Admission policy didn't get him into UT Engineering but Purdue Engineering pursued him and welcomed him with open arms. Something's messed up there but that's a conversation for another board.
 
Exactly. Everyone should be back to normal weighing the risks of leaving the house on a daily basis. That's the bottom line.

I'm in the SW burbs. Don't tp my house though.
 
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