Chance of Football in 2020

moondog_LFZ said:
I know. Just look at who they elected president.
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No they didn't, the electoral college did. 40% of the population didn't even vote. Fortunately most of the ones I described are too lazy to get out and vote otherwise we would already be a facist country.

The ones you support will eventually take everything on the promises of free stuff. Just like they did in Russia, Germany, Spain, N. Korea, N. Vietnam, Cambodia, Czechoslovakia. What it really means is everything to a select few at the top and poverty to everyone else, yet people like you just keep eating it up.

All those regimes had their propaganda ministry too. So easy to brainwash the young and naive.
 
moondog_LFZ said:
I know. Just look at who they elected president.



And this statement just proves the point.
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Moon, if you dont think the current Democrat/Progressive/Liberal leadership gets cues from communist thought and strategy you are out of touch, man. If you like it and want it...fine, that's your prerogative...but to deny it is so is intellectually reckless.
 
Run Pincher said:
otherwise we would already be a facist country.
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Yea, Fascism is a inherently right wing philosophy.
And the current president and his goons are doing a great job of leading us down that path.

RainH2burntO said:
Moon, if you dont think the current Democrat/Progressive/Liberal leadership gets cues from communist thought and strategy you are out of touch, man. If you like it and want it...fine, that's your prerogative...but to deny it is so is intellectually reckless.
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Communism is dead. Nobody is trying to revive it.
You may be confusing it with Socialism which is still barely breathing.
And nobody wants that either.
Now social Democrats is another thing altogether.
But you may believe in the "fear porn" as mchammer would say.
 
moondog_LFZ said:
Yea, Fascism is a inherently right wing philosophy.
And the current president and his goons are doing a great job of leading us down that path.



Communism is dead. Nobody is trying to revive it.
You may be confusing it with Socialism which is still barely breathing.
And nobody wants that either.
Now social Democrats is another thing altogether.
But you may believe in the "fear porn" as mchammer would say.
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Well...as usual...unfortunately, we disagree....very much so...particularly on your first points. If you do some research..with an open mind...you will find evidence to the contrary - Though I'll concede what these people have in mind will be an original...we will need a new word for it (other than communism).
And I'll agree fascism is/was typically an extreme right-wing movement. This reputation came predominantly from Musollinis Italy and Hitler's Germany and has little bearing on today's America. Want evidence?
In Hitler's Germany the church and anything related to God was undermined, attacked, and maligned. We can clearly see which side of the sociopolitical fence has this in mind for the US ..and it certainly isn't the right-wing. Furthermore, it is clear it is the left-wing of America who desires to be the elitist thought police with their ideals of a utopia they control at the expense of the masses ..and will not stop until everyone bows down to their ridiculous, self-serving, vile demands. No, those who fear any sort of right-wing fascism is knocking at the door here clearly do not understand who is calling the shots that matter. Hint: It isn't Donald Trump or anyone on the right.
The trajectory is clear, Moon...so do not worry. You will get what you - apparently - want.
 
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RainH2burntO said:
Well...as usual...unfortunately, we disagree....very much so.
Though I agree fascism is/was typically an extreme right-wing movement. This reputation came predominantly from Italy and Hitler's Germany and has little bearing on today's America. Want evidence?
In Hitler's Germany the church and anything related to God was undermined, attacked, and maligned. We can clearly see which side of the sociopolitical fence has this in mind for the US ..and it certainly isn't the right-wing. All those who fear any sort of right-wing fascism is knocking at the door here clearly do not understand who is calling the shots that matter. Hint: It isn't Donald Trump or anyone on the right.
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Fascism is the melding of big business and government under an authoritarian rule.
We are almost there already.
And Hitler considered himself a Christian doing Gods will.
You must be thinking of Russia.
 
moondog_LFZ said:
Fascism is the melding of big business and government under an authoritarian rule.
We are almost there already.
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You and I might agree on some of this^^^^ but likely disagree on some particulars and who all is to blame for it (if it is emerging) in this country. It is the left wing who has most of the influential businesses in the US on their side and enabling their values/beliefs, though I agree historically it might have been the other way around.
Either way, I still think your fears are misplaced.
Look closer and regardless of what Hitler might have thought...which I do not know...he most definitely was at odds with the true church and Christians. He basically stamped out...or tried to...any pastor or church that wouldnt kow-tow to his delusion. Some resisted...or died trying.
Someone above suggested this to west mall.
They are right. I swore off it a month ago but have fallen off the wagon with this exchange.
Love you, Moon
 
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RainH2burntO said:
You and I might agree on some of this^^^^ but likely disagree on some particulars and who all is to blame for it (if it is emerging) in this country. It is the left wing who has most of the influential businesses in the US on their side and enabling their values/beliefs, though I agree historically it might have been the other way around.
Either way, I still think your fears are misplaced.
Look closer and regardless of what Hitler might have thought...which I do not know...he most definitely was at odds with the true church and Christians. He basically stamped out...or tried to...any pastor or church that wouldnt kow-tow to his delusion. Some resisted...or died trying.
Someone above suggested this to west mall.
They are right. I swore off it a month ago but have fallen off the wagon with this exchange.
Love you, Moon
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Back at ya Rain.
 
News item.

A group of Pac-12 football players from multiple schools penned a letter in The Players' Tribune threatening to opt out of fall camp and game participation unless their demands for fair treatment, safety regulations and concerns over racial justice for college athletes are met by the conference.

The letter is signed by Players of the Pac-12 and uses the hashtag #WeAreUnited to explain the group's concerns, saying, "Because NCAA sports exploit college athletes physically, economically and academically, and also disproportionately harm Black college athletes, #WeAreUnited."

Pac-12 players show unity, list demands in letter
 
It’s start of August, and two promising treatments are starting Phase 3 trials. Still waiting on an update from Regeneron antibody drug for therapy. Not only will they reduce death but also ICU bed count.
 
We shouldn't temp the situation, but we are either safe, or we shouldn't play. Keep my money for next year.
 
SabreHorn said:
We shouldn't temp the situation, but we are either safe, or we shouldn't play. Keep my money for next year.
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I have been going to church since mid-May. We sit every other pew and 6 ft apart within a pew. Masks required and lots of hand sanitizer. As far as I know there hasn’t been an outbreak. I don’t see why it wouldn’t be safe either at the stadium. I should have mentioned my experience earlier when I have criticized others for wanting to cancel the season. We probably only seat 30% of capacity. Even then, the church is not always full as the other 70% prefers to stay home and attend virtually. It is a great experience as the parking lot is empty. Yes, there is a little more time required going in and out due to social distancing requirements but I have gotten use to it. I just realized most of you on this board is like the 70% who decided to stay home.
 
MC,

Y'all are doing better than we are. Church went strictly online and hit huge numbers. When it was opened back up, attendance was more like 200-300, while online remained high. Then we went back to online only.

I did the 9 AM service and estimated the three Sundays we were open, that butts in seats were 200, 150, 250 in a sanctuary that seats about 3,000. Question I brought up is are we going to see the diminished in person numbers after Covid is over. Of course. not having childcare keeps large percentages at home.

That said, I still shake hands with the same men and hug/kiss the same women.
 
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