California Bad, Texas Good?

[Mr. Deez]

I lived in Walnut Creek and worked in Concord in the early 90’s. The City was horrible then..angry, dirty, and the Embarcadero Freeway was still down from the earthquake. SF was dangerous and full of panhandlers. There were gays with sores all over their faces. I can’t fathom it being any worse than it was then, but it is clearly much worse.

When we first moved there, they used to say, Welcome to Paradise! I had no idea what they were talking about. Having lived in many different states, I can honestly say the Bay Area is the second worse place that I’ve ever lived…Lubbock, my hometown, is #1.

Austin in the 70’s, Maui and Bozeman in the 80’s and Sarasota in the 90’s were altogether paradise.

LOL. I would have killed to live in Walnut Creek or Concord. Those were still very respectable towns in the early '80s. Oakland was basically Mogadishu.

 

[mchammer]

 

[Mr. Deez]

Do we still think this is good news? A lot of those new residents will vote Democratic.

 

[mchammer]

Do we still think this is good news? A lot of those new residents will vote Democratic.

Well it had no impact in TX and FL looking at 2024 election margins.

 

[HornHuskerDad]

A lot of those new residents will vote Democratic.

Hopefully those folks leaving CA and moving to Texas will realize that Democratic policies caused the problems in CA - and will vote GOP here.

 

[Mr. Deez]

Well it had no impact in TX and FL looking at 2024 election margins.

No, but it has definitely had an effect over the last 10-15 years.

 

[Mr. Deez]

Hopefully those folks leaving CA and moving to Texas will realize that Democratic policies caused the problems ion CA - and will vote GOP here.

I hope so too, but I'm skeptical. Many haven't made the connection.

 

[Monahorns]

I'm all for vetting new residents prior to letting them in. If they vote Democrat, they don't have to stay in California but they don't get to come here.

 

[LonghornCatholic]

 

[Monahorns]

Internal immigration needs to be controlled by state governments so that state culture isn't changed by leftists fleeing their own policies. We need to increase the prerogatives of the states.

 

[Mr. Deez]

Internal immigration needs to be controlled by state governments so that state culture isn't changed by leftists fleeing their own policies. We need to increase the prerogatives of the states.

The 14th Amendment makes that hard to do.

 

[Monahorns]

The 14th Amendment makes that hard to do.

There are no easy answers. States need to take actions and push the envelope as far as they can.

 

[mchammer]

 

[mchammer]

 

[Horn6721]

On a similar note supposedly California is requiring Oregon Firetrucks coming to help fight LA fires to stop in Sacremento to be inspected for emissions. I know Calif has different standards bur I hope this is not true

Oregon Sends Fire Trucks to CA - They Get Sent to DOT Inspections in Sacramento

Those 60 engines sent yesterday to the Cali fires are not on the fire lines...yet.https://t.co/FmQ9jYQc8CThey've been ordered to submit to a DOT inspection in Sacramento that's scheduled for 4:30 pm today.If they clear the inspection, they'll THEN be able to drive 400 miles to… — Lars Ultra MAGA...

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[Chop]

Internal immigration needs to be controlled by state governments so that state culture isn't changed by leftists fleeing their own policies. We need to increase the prerogatives of the states.

Grossly Unconstitutional.

I prefer the system set up by our Founding Fathers.

 

[Chop]

In the 1930s, City of Los Angeles policemen would patrol the highways at the Arizona border and determine which US Citizens could and couldn't get into California. Terribly Unconstitutional. And a horrendous thing to do. Now the tables are turned, and Texas (sort of) welcomes in multitudes of Californians fleeing their state. No illegal police stoppings, no mobs, no harassment or burning of camps, etc. We're doing it the right and decent way, although that was not what was done to our people when the tables were turned.

 

[HornHuskerDad]

On a similar note supposedly California is requiring Oregon Firetrucks coming to help fight LA fires to stop in Sacremento to be inspected for emissions. I know Calif has different standards bur I hope this is not true

Hard to believe this - but it is California. And lots of idiotic things occur in California.

 

[Mr. Deez]

Grossly Unconstitutional.

I prefer the system set up by our Founding Fathers.

They didn't set that system up. It comes from the privileges and immunities and due process clauses of the 14th Amendment. In other words, the Reconstruction Congress (hardly the Founding Fathers) wrote the alleged textual support for it, and judges pulled it out of their a$$.

 

[Mr. Deez]

If you're a man in California and your house is on fire, you better hope you don't need help.

And it's so stupid. Nobody chooses to be in the middle of a burning building. That's sorta the whole friggin point of having a fire department.

 

[Vol Horn 4 Life]

If you're a man in California and your house is on fire, you better hope you don't need help.

And it's so stupid. Nobody chooses to be in the middle of a burning building. That's sorta the whole friggin point of having a fire department.

THIS is exactly why some people don't care if LA burns completely down. They did all of this to themselves with their laws and policies.

 

[Mr. Deez]

THIS is exactly why some people don't care if LA burns completely down. They did all of this to themselves with their laws and policies.

And it's such a stupid premise. Even if you're a woman, would you rather see some fat lesbian (no offense, mb.) waddling through the flames to save you, or would you rather see some guy who looks like a Navy Seal rushing to your aid?

 

[horninchicago]

And it's such a stupid premise. Even if you're a woman, would you rather see some fat lesbian (no offense, mb.) waddling through the flames to save you, or would you rather see some guy who looks like a Navy Seal rushing to your aid?

First, I don't think mb is fat. Second, when reading football game threads, I would rather have her try to save me vs. some of the never critical of the same tired old ways that Texas loses sunshine pumpers who are purportedly "men".

 

[Mr. Deez]

First, I don't think mb is fat. Second, when reading football game threads, I would rather have her try to save me vs. some of the never critical of the same tired old ways that Texas loses sunshine pumpers who are purportedly "men".

I was referring to lesbianism, not portliness. I don't know anything about her size. But even if she's 400 pounds, she's not trying to be a firefighter and then smugly telling people she won't save them because it's their own fault they're in a fire.

 

[horninchicago]

I was referring to lesbianism, not portliness. I don't know anything about her size. But even if she's 400 pounds, she's not trying to be a firefighter and then smugly telling people she won't save them because it's their own fault they're in a fire.

Yes, I was just messing with you on the fat part. The rest, I stand by.

 

[ViperHorn]

I was referring to lesbianism, not portliness. I don't know anything about her size. But even if she's 400 pounds, she's not trying to be a firefighter and then smugly telling people she won't save them because it's their own fault they're in a fire.

Mr. Deez, she is a lawyer for a governmental agency just like you.

 

[Chop]

They didn't set that system up. It comes from the privileges and immunities and due process clauses of the 14th Amendment. In other words, the Reconstruction Congress (hardly the Founding Fathers) wrote the alleged textual support for it, and judges pulled it out of their a$$.

Article IV
5th Amendment
9th Amendment
It was already there
More with the 14th Amendment

At the time of our Constitution, and thereafter, people could move freely between states.

Interstate commerce also requires the movement of people between states.

 

[Gylcomer]

Well it had no impact in TX and FL looking at 2024 election margins.

Thank goodness for the Hispanics voting Conservative. They cancelled out the out-of-state libs in Brewster County

 

[Mr. Deez]

Article IV
5th Amendment
9th Amendment
It was already there

None of these say a state can't close its domestic borders. And of course, the 5th and 9th Amendments restrict federal power, not state.

At the time of our Constitution, and thereafter, people could move freely between states.

They could, but that doesn't mean they had a constitutional right to.

Interstate commerce also requires the movement of people between states.

Even if that's the case (and I'm not sure that it is), the Constitution gives Congress the power to regulate interstate commerce. It doesn't mean states can't limit passage through its borders. It means that Congress could preempt state border restrictions. I'm not aware of it doing so.

I'm not saying state border restrictions would hold up in court. They wouldn't, but if we're enforcing the law as written, such restrictions should hold up.

 

[Chop]

None of these say a state can't close its domestic borders. And of course, the 5th and 9th Amendments restrict federal power, not state.



They could, but that doesn't mean they had a constitutional right to.



Even if that's the case (and I'm not sure that it is), the Constitution gives Congress the power to regulate interstate commerce. It doesn't mean states can't limit passage through its borders. It means that Congress could preempt state border restrictions. I'm not aware of it doing so.

I'm not saying state border restrictions would hold up in court. They wouldn't, but if we're enforcing the law as written, such restrictions should hold up.

That would make for a heck of a challenging Amicus Brief.